Could Dark Phoenix Do This To IW Thor?

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Posted by immoralimmortal (1918 posts) 3 months, 9 days ago

Poll: Could Dark Phoenix Do This To IW Thor? (50 votes)

yes, casually 48%
nope, thor is too durable 52%

could she disintegrate him with a wave of her hand?

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#1 Posted by Zansuke (253 posts) - - Show Bio

No because heroes like Thor have atomic bonding significantly higher than humans. As shown by Thor not even bruising through Hulk's beating and it took Thanos to probably hitting him at pressure spots to beat the crap out of him.

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#2 Posted by Trololololol (865 posts) - - Show Bio

@zansuke: Yeah , Thor easily managed to not get cut by Bifrost. The Bifrost was able to effortlessly cut the dragon from Muspelheim .

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#3 Posted by Lan_Fan (18590 posts) - - Show Bio

Sure, she did that to Apocalypse before the Phoenix amp.

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#5 Edited by Mr_Shazam0920 (6073 posts) - - Show Bio

@lan_fan:

I don’t think they are the same.

She hit Apoc with a full force Phoenix blast where you actually saw the Phoenix. This was a just a casual “get off me” type deal. If Wolverine could get past a casual one, I think Thor could survive this one.

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#6 Posted by johnsmjs36 (1383 posts) - - Show Bio

It is not physical attack but separation of atoms. Taking hits from Thanos and being destroyed atom by atom are different.

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#7 Posted by FinalKingThanos (3252 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean it truly is a 50/50 scenario I haven’t seen Dark Phoenix so I’m not sure who else she did this to.

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5d0b495e7009f (1844 posts) - - Show Bio

It is not physical attack but separation of atoms. Taking hits from Thanos and being destroyed atom by atom are different.

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#9 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (18830 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#10 Posted by NWName (5485 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnsmjs36 said:

It is not physical attack but separation of atoms. Taking hits from Thanos and being destroyed atom by atom are different.

IIRC it only takes 3 000 000 000 joules to disintegrate someone on a molecular level. It would take much more to do the same to Thor, his molecular bonds should be way stronger than a human’s.

And unless its complete matter erasure its not ignoring durability. You can seperate molecules and atoms with force and energy.

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#11 Posted by Oraculi (7318 posts) - - Show Bio

Jean tk is thousand tonner + range, more than enough to do that.

Hulk and Kurse best striking feats are only in the high hundred ton range.

Thor has bled from Hulk and Kurse with just a few blows to the face

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#12 Posted by Bayman007 (2874 posts) - - Show Bio

What you mean neutron star level thor?? Naaaa

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#13 Edited by Namebk (1843 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

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#14 Posted by GateOfBabylon (5324 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

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#15 Posted by Kh0rn3 (378 posts) - - Show Bio

@bayman007: remember the scene in infinity war where Thor trying to activate a neutron star and he tanked the neutron star beam? Possibly that

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#16 Posted by immoralimmortal (1918 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

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#17 Posted by g2_ (12802 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

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#18 Edited by Oraculi (7318 posts) - - Show Bio

@namebk said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

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@namebk said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

@g2_ said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

By that logic Yes because Thor hasn't resisted tk disintegration from someone as strong as Jean

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#19 Posted by deactivated-5d28a8d99844a (634 posts) - - Show Bio

@oraculi said:
@namebk said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

@gateofbabylon said:
@namebk said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

@g2_ said:

Nope she hasn't done that on someone as durable as Thor.

By that logic Yes because Thor hasn't resisted tk disintegration from someone as strong as Jean

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#20 Posted by PyroFN (7205 posts) - - Show Bio

@zansuke: 1) “No because heroes like Thor have atomic bonding significantly higher than humans.”

The D’Bari aren’t human. And Apocalypse has way higher durability than your average human.

2) “ As shown by Thor not even bruising through Hulk's beating“

I will give you....what multi-city block level at best for Hulk? Mountain level based on his Surtur feat? Still doesn’t compare to planetary level power.

3) “and it took Thanos to probably hitting him at pressure spots to beat the crap out of him.”

You are stretching. Unless there is concrete evidence, like perhaps Thor mentioning said weak spots, we aren’t gonna assume Thor could tank the hits that he clearly couldn’t bear with.

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#21 Posted by PyroFN (7205 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr_shazam0920: “She hit Apoc with a full force Phoenix blast where you actually saw the Phoenix.”

Fox continuity contradicts that after Dark Phoenix came out. Jean wasn’t possessed by the Phoenix and never had the Phoenix apparently in Apocalypse.

If you want explanation for why we see fiery wings, I don’t know? I can give speculation at best, but we clearly see the Phoenix Force enter Jean for the first time in Dark Phoenix, so whatever Jean was projecting in Apocalypse wasn’t the actual Phoenix.

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#22 Posted by LordOfAllHumans (7536 posts) - - Show Bio

@pyrofn: the Force was never called the Phoenix and only showed a raptor after merging with Jean. Jean is the Phoenix part of the Phoenix Force.