In Captain america civil war?
Could CW Flash solo everyone from the Airport scene?
theoretically he "could"
but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks
Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.
Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.
theoretically he "could"
but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks
Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.
Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.
Lighting throwing
with pep talk CW Flash is Universal
theoretically he "could"
but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks
Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.
Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.
Lighting throwing
Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?
theoretically he "could"
but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks
Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.
Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.
Lighting throwing
Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?
Hawkeye's Electric arrow was able to restraint him for a while and Barry's lighting can literally ko him.
Why do u put vision in Supergirl level durability ????
theoretically he "could"
but given a storyline and plot, he'd probably run circles around them for a bit and get dropped when he first attacks
Agreed. In theory, he has the capability to. But given as to how he's been tagged by enemies with normal reaction times, Wanda would tag him.
Also, Idk how he'd bring Vision down.
Lighting throwing
Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?
Hawkeye's Electric arrow was able to restraint him for a while and Barry's lighting can literally ko him.
Why do u put vision in Supergirl level durability ????
Please tell me your joking .
Firstly , that merely restrained him for no less than 1 minute and did no damage to him whatsoever . So can the flash restrain him ? Yes . Can it damage him ? Definitely not lmao . Nothing proves to show that it would even be close to damaging vision , knowing how he is made of vibranium .... On top of that he can even manipulate his density and weight to be extremely durable to the point of being able to tank attacks from Vibranium Ultron .
Next , the only reason that worked on vision because of the element of surprise ... If flash were to throw that lightning straight to vision , nothing suggests that he would not be able to simply phase through the lightning like how he did with hawkeye's subsequent arrow shots .
Why did i put vision in supergirl's level durability ?
Of course vision would not be as durable as supergirl but they are clearly on similar levels . And ok let's take away what I just said and focus on something much more important . What's the damage / power output of Barry's lightning ? Last time I checked , no feats of barry's lightning suggests that it has a large enough power to even hurt vision . And that's assuming his lightning would even hit vision when vision has the ability to phase and uses it constantly
He can if he is serious.
Nope , even with his top and best feats , how would he even be able to hurt iron man or vision much less deal with tp attacks from wanda ?
Barry's lightning hardly even made a scratch on supergirl . You think that'll be enough to defeat vision much less hurt him ?
Hawkeye's Electric arrow was able to restraint him for a while and Barry's lighting can literally ko him.
Why do u put vision in Supergirl level durability ????
Please tell me your joking .
Firstly , that merely restrained him for no less than 1 minute and did no damage to him whatsoever . So can the flash restrain him ? Yes . Can it damage him ? Definitely not lmao . Nothing proves to show that it would even be close to damaging vision , knowing how he is made of vibranium .... On top of that he can even manipulate his density and weight to be extremely durable to the point of being able to tank attacks from Vibranium Ultron .
Next , the only reason that worked on vision because of the element of surprise ... If flash were to throw that lightning straight to vision , nothing suggests that he would not be able to simply phase through the lightning like how he did with hawkeye's subsequent arrow shots .
Why did i put vision in supergirl's level durability ?
Of course vision would not be as durable as supergirl but they are clearly on similar levels . And ok let's take away what I just said and focus on something much more important . What's the damage / power output of Barry's lightning ? Last time I checked , no feats of barry's lightning suggests that it has a large enough power to even hurt vision . And that's assuming his lightning would even hit vision when vision has the ability to phase and uses it constantly
I can say that ur joking considering that a fearless Eletric arrow was able to affect him but Barry's lighting isn't affected coz u think phasing and vibranium is gonna save him.
First of all , vibranium is a good conductor of electricity , before you ask me how u need to see Avengers 2 end where Ironman's and Thor's electricity passing through the that vibranium rod.
Second , Vision isn't completely made of vibranium he is made of tissues + vibranium according to Helen Cho Where his tissues would literally get destroyed by his lighting throwing.
His phasing didn't help him from Eletric arrow , so don't talk about phasing would help him.
Barry's lighting is more than 1000 times powerful than those feat less Eletric arrow which is capable of turning sand demon into glass.
Vision best reaction feat is phasing throw Hawkeye's arrow at point blank (aim Dodge) which is no close to Mach 1 and current Barry's speed is close to Mach 30 . So , there's no way vision can counter/Dodge Barry's lighting.
He can if he is serious.
Nope , even with his top and best feats , how would he even be able to hurt iron man or vision much less deal with tp attacks from wanda ?
- He can literally phase through Ironman and shatter his suit with his supersonic punch.
- See above for vision.
- Wanda's TP is too slow and no close to Grood's level (speed and range).
@nightmare52: I think the real difference is the continuous blast vs 1 blast. Vision wasn't actually hurt by the electricity just temporarily halted and the time he was halted was due to the lightning constantly flowing. I'm not sure a lightning bolt would work the same way.
He can if he is serious.
Nope , even with his top and best feats , how would he even be able to hurt iron man or vision much less deal with tp attacks from wanda ?
Damn Barry is getting his Fox-Quicksilver on
How does flash go from easily catching bullets in season 1 and 2 to now being tagged by a gurilla sleepy dart? HeD prabaly faze iron man outta the armor then get tagged by an arrow from Hawkeye his feat so inconsistent he sucks
@marvelanddcfan24: he doesn't have super hearing?
@kcminato: Cap, even though I didn't think should be able to, was able to hurt Iron Man with his punches. What do you think Flash could do with his powered punches? And if Hawkeye's lightning (?) arrow trap could affect Viz, why couldn't Barry's?
@nightmare52: I think the real difference is the continuous blast vs 1 blast. Vision wasn't actually hurt by the electricity just temporarily halted and the time he was halted was due to the lightning constantly flowing. I'm not sure a lightning bolt would work the same way.
- I get ur point , there's a difference between continuous flow and instant shot.
- But what I mean is Barry's lighting is more powerful enough to Turn Sand demon into glass in less than a second Which would do serious damage to vision's tissues coz of vibranium.
How would he deal with Vision and Scarlet Witch? Ant Man could potentially be difficult, too.
He can defeat vision via lighting See above for details.
SW TP is too slow not even close to Grodd level.
Phasing and lighting is enough for Ant-Man , IIRC he was Ko'd by stun gun.
No. Spider-Man, Scarlet Witch, and Vision could each hurt him. I'm not saying all of them could beat him by themselves, I'm just saying they all have the potential to hurt him. Everytime Flash fights a metahuman, he ends up losing the first time, so these metas would at least make him bleed.
@mrmonster: thats because of plot which is not involved here. This is a non jobbing flash meaning he stomps
@nightmare52: Did that asshole just make all those people shoot themselves? That's a little brutal, Barry!
@nightmare52: Did that asshole just make all those people shoot themselves? That's a little brutal, Barry!
It's just muscle wound.
Lets pretend he could stop vision. How is he beating iron man or war machine? Hell black panther would take him a few minutes
Lets pretend he could stop vision. How is he beating iron man or war machine? Hell black panther would take him a few minutes
Ironman and war machine has same level durability and his supersonic punch is more than enough to shatter their suit considering that cap and Bucky was able to damage with their punches and he can easily use his Phasing !!!
For BP he could try phasing if not lighting throwing.
@nightmare52: cap and bucky didnt damage it with punches, it took buckys arm and a vibranium shield, his punches arent doing anything. And lightning will beat bp, but itll take a few most likely
@killers10333: he could just rip out their hearts or phase them out of the suits. And he will definitely one shot BP with lightning, black widow used tazers and it seemed to slow him down (same ones she used on scott)
@nightmare52: cap and bucky didnt damage it with punches, it took buckys arm and a vibranium shield, his punches arent doing anything. And lightning will beat bp, but itll take a few most likely
Flash literally ran through a truck first time he phased ,so he can pretty much phasing throw Ironman if supersonic punch didn't work.
@nightmare52: @DammeFavour: his best phasing feats are going through things, not using it to phase through part of something, grab a solid object, and cause that object to also phase. By feats he is not taking iron man out of his suits. And iron man has tanked things far worse than what barry is going to be able to throw. Let alone the fact that he has to deal with everyone else on top of iron man. All they need is one free shot
Nope. Vision solos.
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