Win Conditions: Death or KO
Standard Equipment
Location: Namek
Surfer throws a rock and kills Thor.
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats apart from "well he should have more power because he's got a fodder hammer weaker than his own strength and Fallen One"
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats
For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats
For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.
Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then
@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.
OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats
For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.
Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then
We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats
For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.
Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then
We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.
Ok so standard feats (which are obviously not Cosmic Thor tier) and amps that don't do anything, cool
@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.
OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.
Thanks lol
Worthy Surfer is near featless
No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.
As stated, no feats
For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.
Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then
We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.
Ok so standard feats (which are obviously not Cosmic Thor tier) and amps that don't do anything, cool
@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.
OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.
Thanks lol
Standard feats, which can now be replicated to a higher degree, thanks to the Fallen One's Dark Matter manipulation, Power Cosmic, and Mjolnir. I don't see how him being upgraded would somehow make said standard abilities the same level they were when he previously used them. The thing is, Silver Surfer is himself, with Thor and Mjolnir's abilities per the enchantment, on top of Fallen One's capabilities... he's basically Cosmic Thor himself, with added gifts.
@baldur_odinson: Yeah so meanless scaling and "well he should be this strong cuz he has big hammer" that doesn't actually quantify to anything, cool
When this Surfer actually does something like beat Galactus let me know
@baldur_odinson: Yeah so meanless scaling and "well he should be this strong cuz he has big hammer" that doesn't actually quantify to anything, cool
When this Surfer actually does something like beat Galactus let me know
Huh, sure.
@professorrespect: No problem.
@baldur_odinson: Cosmic Thor has both the power cosmic and the OF (IIRC) which makes him leagues and bounds higher than the entirety of Galan's heralds put together including Surfer himself. He unironically one-shots.
@professorrespect: No problem.
@baldur_odinson: Cosmic Thor has both the power cosmic and the OF (IIRC) which makes him leagues and bounds higher than the entirety of Galan's heralds put together including Surfer himself. He unironically one-shots.
It makes me wonder whether Norrin can then tap into the Odinforce, too, considering he has Thor's traits. That's something I'm going to have to look into. I doubt Thor one-shots Norrin. Only time will tell...
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