Cosmic Thor vs Worthy Surfer

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Cosmic Thor, Herald of  Thunder
Cosmic Thor, Herald of Thunder
Worthy Surfer, the Fallen One
Worthy Surfer, the Fallen One

Win Conditions: Death or KO

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Worthy Surfer is near featless

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Surfer throws a rock and kills Thor.

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Surfer throws a rock and kills Thor.

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Surfer should stomp.

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Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

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#9  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats apart from "well he should have more power because he's got a fodder hammer weaker than his own strength and Fallen One"

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@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats

For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.

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@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats

For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.

Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then

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@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.

OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.

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@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats

For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.

Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then

We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.

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@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats

For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.

Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then

We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.

Ok so standard feats (which are obviously not Cosmic Thor tier) and amps that don't do anything, cool

@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.

OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.

Thanks lol

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#15  Edited By Baldur_Odinson

@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:
@baldur_odinson said:
@professorrespect said:

Worthy Surfer is near featless

No, he isn't. He's the same Silver Surfer we've always known. He's just older, has absorbed the Fallen One (hence why he's black), which gave him Dark Matter Mastery on top of two portions of the Power Cosmic. Now, tack on the capabilities that Mjolnir presents (it's own abilities + Thor's), and you have a silvery beast breaker. As the Worthy Silver One, sure, he doesn't have many feats, but they're good enough to take out Cosmic Thor.

As stated, no feats

For the Worthy Silver One, yes. But that doesn't take away from his feats prior to the upgrade. So, it's really a moot point to call him featless when he's actually not.

Ok so what feats does this version of Surfer have then

We've been over this. This is the same Silver Surfer, except older (in the future). Any feats he had prior to absorbing the Fallen One and becoming Worthy he has here.

Ok so standard feats (which are obviously not Cosmic Thor tier) and amps that don't do anything, cool

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@professorrespect: His one and only feat is getting his head bashed in with Mjolnir, and that's it.

OT: Mismatch. Cosmic Thor stomps.

Thanks lol

Standard feats, which can now be replicated to a higher degree, thanks to the Fallen One's Dark Matter manipulation, Power Cosmic, and Mjolnir. I don't see how him being upgraded would somehow make said standard abilities the same level they were when he previously used them. The thing is, Silver Surfer is himself, with Thor and Mjolnir's abilities per the enchantment, on top of Fallen One's capabilities... he's basically Cosmic Thor himself, with added gifts.

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@baldur_odinson: Yeah so meanless scaling and "well he should be this strong cuz he has big hammer" that doesn't actually quantify to anything, cool

When this Surfer actually does something like beat Galactus let me know

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@baldur_odinson: Yeah so meanless scaling and "well he should be this strong cuz he has big hammer" that doesn't actually quantify to anything, cool

When this Surfer actually does something like beat Galactus let me know

Huh, sure.

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@professorrespect: No problem.

@baldur_odinson: Cosmic Thor has both the power cosmic and the OF (IIRC) which makes him leagues and bounds higher than the entirety of Galan's heralds put together including Surfer himself. He unironically one-shots.

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@professorrespect: No problem.

@baldur_odinson: Cosmic Thor has both the power cosmic and the OF (IIRC) which makes him leagues and bounds higher than the entirety of Galan's heralds put together including Surfer himself. He unironically one-shots.

It makes me wonder whether Norrin can then tap into the Odinforce, too, considering he has Thor's traits. That's something I'm going to have to look into. I doubt Thor one-shots Norrin. Only time will tell...