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In the aftermath: Hulk uses the Thing as a club and beats Thor's corpse into a pulp.

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#52  Edited By StrawberryPimp

Thor seems to be actively getting weaker with each new amp he gets. Soon after getting Odinforce he got yeeted by Carol Danvers, got one-shot by Cap with his own hammer and was overwhelmed by Terrax throwing rocks at him. Now he got Power Cosmic on top of that and got gang banged by neandarthals with rocks and sticks, and is going to struggle with Foster, BRB and... a guy who got his spine snapped by Hulk, apparently?... in a near future.

It's also funny how people treat supposedly massively amped Thor tanking a planet busting blast as a big deal even though Savage Hulk replicated that shit back in 60s. Thor gets owned by either solo. WBH could just flex his dick and atomize Thor with a resulting shockwave.

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I don't trust current Thor writer.

I think he'll give Thor a couple of great feats & tons of shitty ones.

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@strawberrypimp: Where have it been mentioned that he will struggle with Bill and Foster and Hulk villain? Why don't wait for the issues to come out before actually judging it.

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@byondeon: it's pretty fucking obvious that he's going to struggle with them because Thor perpetually sucks balls and there's no reason for him to stop now.

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@strawberrypimp: He literally no-sold a planet explosion. That is more impressive than anything Jane can do to him and Bill is a certified Planet Buster who can actually go 1 on 1 against Heralds unless that Herald is Silver Surfer. Him giving a good fight with Bill wouldn't be that bad, unless they make him lose.

They are not going to make him struggle against Jane unless she get a boost as well.

Who is the guy that got his spine broken by Hulk btw..

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#57  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@byondeon: Jane fought Odin and beat him bad

Thor got beat by rock

who's more impressive

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@byondeon: ah yes, no sold a planet exploding right after getting stomped by monkeys with sticks and stones. The only planets Bill ever busted were as big as houses at best. Bill going toe to toe with heralds is especially funny, this is the same guy who struggled with Rulk, got molested by Gladiator, got humiliated by Silver Surfer, got dumpstered by Namor and couldn't even beat Sasquatch while going all out. Oh, and who almost got himself murdered by Unworthy Thor. I guess Unowrthy Thor > BRB = Thor with Odin Force and Power Cosmic now, lol.

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@professorrespect: That was Jane with Thor's powers, not Valkyrie

@strawberrypimp: Unworthy Thor = Worthy Thor in strength/striking power.

Thor and Bill in their first encounter fought evenly with Bill slightly better and managed to lift Mjolnir. This is a planet buster that is fighting evenly with Bill. Also, you have to take into account also that losing to Surfer is not a low showing right? You realize that Surfer is the 2nd most powerful Herald, after Tyrant. Bill also tanked a hit that easily destroyed a planet by Thor, and fought for a while before Thor hit him with that. He has tanked blasts from Heralds, who are all planet busters, he has beaten several planet busters before. I don't see how anything he has done is a low showing. Also, Gladiator at that time was also a planet buster, and they were even and the context of that appearance heavilly suggest that it was even still until all the Dark Guardians had defeated the Guardians and helped Gladiator. The only one I can't comment on is Sasquatch and Namor, because him losing to them is a heavy outlier.

Here is Bill fighting Stardust, a Herald capable of destroying planets/stars and him tanking a planet buster from Thor (it was Thor that didn't have the PG at the time, he got it after he planetbusted):

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Destroying the planet in the process..

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Still concious after this, however Thor is the victor here.

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@byondeon: Jane is still stronger than a rock, hopefully

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@professorrespect: Yes, and people honestly think they are really bad at trolling if they honestly think they are funny by pointing out Thor got staggered by a rock.

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#62  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@byondeon: No, he got beat by a bunch of dudes throwing rocks at him, there's no "trolling" here mister marvel man, all I'm saying is that Jane is better than that kind of feat

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Atleast he's still better than Rebirth Superman.

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@professorrespect: Holy shit, are you frekin serious now?

Either you are trolling (most likely, and you are not one of the good trolls either) or you should stop coming here because your opinion are stupid. Pick one or the other.

Please stop troll and you might get a good discussion out of it. Trolling have never led to anything good, unless you know, you are SBC ofc.

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@byondeon: All I'm saying is that Thor struggled with rocks, and while Thor has had trouble in the past due to such things (for example, Absorbing Man with the strength of wood was able to beat him up) I feel that this is a new low for the character. Jane Thor clearly had better feats during her tenure considering she fought Odin. Thor can't even fight a dude pretending to be Odin.

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@professorrespect: Rock throw wasn't doing anything to Thor. He felt it, that's it.

Also, Jane Thor isn't a thing anymore. She doesn't have Mjolnir. She is irrelevant here. Thor is a planetbuster, with that durability. I don't see how anything you just said matter in this thread.

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@professorrespect said:

@byondeon: All I'm saying is that Thor struggled with rocks, and while Thor has had trouble in the past due to such things (for example, Absorbing Man with the strength of wood was able to beat him up) I feel that this is a new low for the character. Jane Thor clearly had better feats during her tenure considering she fought Odin. Thor can't even fight a dude pretending to be Odin.

The preview of the next issue factually proved it that aside from rocks, wooden spears and arrows are another of Thor's most deadly enemies:

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@professorrespect: Rock throw wasn't doing anything to Thor. He felt it, that's it.

Yeah, he grunted in pain as the rock hit his back, and he yelled in distress. Jane made Odin yell in pain as well.

Also, Jane Thor isn't a thing anymore. She doesn't have Mjolnir. She is irrelevant here.

Jane Thor was clearly shown to have better feats than this Thor through, that's what I'm saying. You get all funny about it for some reason?

Thor is a planetbuster, with that durability.

He grunted against a rock and failed to fight Wood Absorbing Man. He is weaker than Jane Thor.

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#69  Edited By StrawberryPimp

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@strawberrypimp: Unworthy Thor = Worthy Thor in strength/striking power.

And yet BRB was outright stomped by Thor who didn't even have a hammer. His supposed "equal".

Thor and Bill in their first encounter fought evenly with Bill slightly better and managed to lift Mjolnir. This is a planet buster that is fighting evenly with Bill.

Oh, so now they're supposedly equal to each other, but Unworthy Thor stomping him is supposed to make perfect sense, and BRB keeping up with """massively amped""" Thor isn't a low showing for """massively amped""' Thor either? Lol okay, at least you not making any sense is consistent.

You have to take into account also that losing to Surfer is not a low showing right? You realize that Surfer is the 2nd most powerful Herald, after Tyrant.

Surfer is the guy who got his ass kicked by Blastaar, Thing, couldn't beat Spider-Man for an entire issue while bloodlusted, just recently got stalemated by a fucking War Machine armor and Blade and got KOed by Iron Man 3 fucking times. He is also a guy who got physically overpowered by the likes of Hulk and Thing, was physically matched by Vision, physically matched by Terrax, got physically stomped by a guy who was murdered by modern Drax, and yet he clowned Bill in h2h and made it look easy. So yeah, that's pretty fucking embarassing for the donkey.

Bill also tanked a hit that easily destroyed a planet by Thor,

Ah yes, the infamous planet that was barely bigger than a marketplace. Real impressive. Oh, and Bill didn't tank shit, he almost died and needed his ass to be resqued.

and fought for a while before Thor hit him with that. He has tanked blasts from Heralds, who are all planet busters, he has beaten several planet busters before.

So all heralds can bust planets with their blasts now? Awesome. Human Torch stalemated bloodlusted Terrax's blasts with his own without even resorting to supernova => non-serious Human Torch is a planet buster. Hulk and Thing tanked Torch's supernova blasts, ergo they have planetary+ durability. Awesome.

The only "herald" that Bill tanked blasts from is Stardust, and Stardust is garbage.

I don't see how anything he has done is a low showing.

Yeah, because you're blind.

Also, Gladiator at that time was also a planet buster, and they were even and the context of that appearance heavilly suggest that it was even still until all the Dark Guardians had deìfeated the Guardians and helped Gladiator.

They weren't even and most people assisting Gladiator were mid-tiers. And Gladiator in the same run got owned by an explosion that didn't KO some street and mid levelers, so lol at him being a planet buster on that occasion.

The only one I can't comment on is Sasquatch and Namor, because him losing to them is a heavy outlier.

Nah, Bill just fucking sucks, just like the real Thor does. Sometimes even harder than that.

Oh and you also forgot to adress Bill having trouble with Red Hulk. Lemme guess, "heavy outlier", right?

Here is Bill fighting Stardust, a Herald capable of destroying planets/stars

Nice fanfiction lmao. Also nice scam that shows that the "planet" they busted was only about as big as a fucking barn.

And him tanking a planet buster from Thor (it was Thor that didn't have the PG at the time, he got it after he planetbusted):

> almost died and was incapable of fighting back

> "tanking"

Nice fanfiction.

Also don't forget that that "planet" that was busted was smaller than a hill.

Also lol at the rock not doing anything to Thor. Thor was in so much pain he looked like he was giving birth when the rock hit him, lmao

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thor backhands both to pluto

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Hulk and Thing get sent to the moon with one shot.

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In all seriousness who threw the rock? And how strong was said character?

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@tifalockhart: It was some random alien monkey creature from a primitive society going through the stone age.

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#75  Edited By TifaLockhart

@underfire47: thanks. In fairness to Thor, it was thrown by an alien, so there's a possibility the alien was stronger than an Earthling.

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Duo Slaughter him

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#77  Edited By StrawberryPimp

Considering the fact that Bill is a pathetic jobber who gets shitstomped left and right, and who was stomped by the likes of Gladiator, Surfer, amped Wrecker, a random Super-Skrull and even unarmed Unworthy Thor, and they all had considerably less trouble with him than Thor with OF and PC did...

Thor gets stomped hard.

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@strawberrypimp: you're sad. Get well soon... Thor was literally holding back and let bill get free shots and with the power cosmic he backhanded bill with force of a thousand suns... Also loki recently oneshotted immortal hulk and this thor>loki.. Thor calls in loki to oneshot them done.hahah

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Lmao Thor shitstomps every single one of them with a thoughts, despite how retarded Cates’s writing is and now inconsistent and silly the plot as a whole is.

It is sad enough that we have Writers who clearly have no idea regarding the characters they are writing yet the comic community has been infiltrated by illiterates..... I don’t feel any regret being constantly banned from this broken site....

The Planet of which the rock was thrown at Thor’s head was one of the five planets which will give Galactus enough energy to combat a being who destroyed the entire universe(or at least a Galaxy) on panel between its palm! How much power do you think each of it contains? Being staggered by a rock which was a part of that planet thrown at him was not embarassing, considering the energy the planet contained. What component do you think makes up that planet as a whole? And it turns out I was right when making this same statement on YouTube one month ago. The pieces of Clypse had the power of thousand Suns, stated on panel(I know it sounds stupid) after Bill showed up.
As I said early, ignoring the stupidity of the arc and leaning to the positive sides of it, Thor stomps. It was established from the beginning he has more raw power than Odin.

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#80  Edited By Underfire47

@dami24434:Loki didn't exactly one-shot Hulk, he tried to erase Hulk from existence but all he did was make him accidentally jump to a new host and after that he stated he couldn't even do that, Hulk has one-shot that same Loki twice already, not to mention Loki is all over the place in power with reality warping an entire universe recently, but anyway what does Loki have to do with anything here? Thor can't fight his own fights so he needs to call in his brother? You aren't confident in Thor himself?

Thor has the OF and power cosmic, there is no way he doesn't stomp both here massively. When he fought Bill he took down his power cosmic amp and presumably his OF amp to have a more fair fight with him.

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@strawberrypimp: Lmao when was Surfer stalemated by Blade and War Machine? If you referred to the instant occurring in the new Star Brand Arc The fight ended before any of them could have begun butchering one another once they saw what Starbrand was doing. And hey when did Ironman beat him and who was it that killed him that got murdered by Modern Drax?

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@underfire47: when did loki warp a universe comic name and issue ? Also loki did what he intended,hulk was KOed and he only got lucky due to spiderman taking the power onto himself,and he actually claimed he could do it again just with more efforts. But seriously where did loki warp a universe?

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#84  Edited By Underfire47

@dami24434: During Agent of Asgard,

Loki warping Hela, Odin and Asgard and putting them into his warp/story pocket universe it happened during Loki: Agent of Asgard #16.

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No he didn't, don't lie. Loki did not go there to randomly KO Hulk, he literally tried to cure Banner of the Hulk which ultimately failed because all that happened is that Spider-Man got the Hulk it has nothing to do with luck, Hulk could have jumped somewhere else or even into Loki himself considering Loki later on said he couldn't do the same with Spiderman Hulk and he did not claim he could do it again with more efforts he said he could try again but it could make things worse. And he also did not even get rid of Hulk, because he was still locked inside Banner, all he did was move gamma around from Banner to Peter by accident.

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@lord_chad: And 0 feats to back that up. Hulk stomps

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#86  Edited By The_Hajduk

They can knock him out with the free hit combination move but Thor wins in a fight using the Odin Force (Thorforce now), or maybe he’ll job until he inevitably drains Hulk’s gamma to showcase his new herald abilities, and then Thing is alone.

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Thor stomps easily.

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#88  Edited By dami24434

@underfire47: oh that one,Agent of Asgard was god of stories loki. Current loki is not god of stories anymore,I don't get how you mix them up if you check out the last issue his recent comic called " Loki " he stated he is not god of stories anymore at least he can't use the power in a fight against nightmare. Anyways yes Loki said he could not remove it from spiderman because it's unpredictable, it could cause some unknown phenomenal not like he doesn't have the power to remove it. And loki has shut hulk power off before in Tales to astonish #101 so he can choose not to remove the hulk but just turn him off again.

And please mention one instance hulk has beaten 616 Loki in a fight ,the best I remembered was from deadpool art of war and it was a cheapshot and loki got back up later and continued his invasion while hulk was nowhere to be found and was having trouble with his lackeys,technically we can see current Loki is a different version compared to classic loki the one who turned hulk power off and ragdolls him across dimensions prior to that and art of war loki which is also classic loki , current incarnation loki hasn't really fought hulk until now but if we are mixing all reincarnations loki has consistently fodderised hulk and even turning him into paintings with a gesture in one comic.

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@dami24434: Nowhere did it say he lost those powers, he just no longer is "god of stories", as in he no longer does that stuff. He doesn't have the power to do exactly what he wants with it, it could backfire is what he is literally saying. Yea 50+ years ago is not really relevant to today, 50 years ago you could knock out Hulk with gas, he couldn't breathe underwater, he literally didn't have a healing factor, etc...

That's again a lie, we don't know how the fight started or anything, so it's impossible to say it was a cheapshot, all we saw is this

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also getting back up later doesn't mean you weren't beaten before, everyone gets up eventually unless they are killed, so that's a moot point, but anyway Hulk then went to smash the Moleman and his lackies

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and after that went onto beat a bunch of trolls with the F4

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nowhere did he have trouble with anything. Besides that there was the time Hulk beat up Loki in Vote Loki #2

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And in Loki Agent of Asgard, though that was indeed a cheapshot

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So don't try to lecture me when you are not even aware of these instances, on top of that the Immortal Hulk that Loki drained gamma from is actually weakened, it's revealed in Banners series and by the writer in an interview that Banner doesn't trust Devil Hulk 100% which is why his power is limited, but he started to trust him more in the most recent issues which is why he is able to go while it's daylight out but even than only on cloudy days because again he doesn't trust him 100% and then there is the fact that Devil Hulk isn't even the strongest Hulk

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What i mean by all this is you can't just cast a blanket statement across all incarnations. Using Savage Hulk from like 50+ years ago as an example doesn't work in modern times.

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Thor has shitty durability, he'll get pretty injured. I don't get why Thor writer doesn't make Thor use Odin magic or cosmic force. All he does is throw that shitty hammer.

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@kgb725: Lmao 0 feats?

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First, these 5 planets were stated by Surfer himself to give Galactus enough power to actually combat the Black Winter a being that on panel destroyed an entire universe or a Galaxy if you want to low ball it With one hand with literally no effort at all. Only fools would undermine the capability of the components which made up their surfaces. And hey, turns out I was right about idiots whining at how Thor got staggered by a stone. Those stones turn out to have the power of thousand stars... Yes, it is not a good writing but this is how the story portrays these pebbles to be and how much power Thor really has.
Thor, according to his own word, has more raw power than Odin and this is accounted for again when he said “No force in this universe is strong enough to...” Surely, it is an exaggeration, but it doesn’t however shed some lights on how powerful Thor has become. It certainly doesn’t require a Force existing outside of the universe to stop Thor’s hammer when called by him but his hammer throw usually outmatches almost everything Asgardian Knowledge allows Thor to perceive power-wise.

He even held back amped Galactus though Cates has no respect for Galan.

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@kgb725: Lmao 0 feats?

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First, these 5 planets were stated by Surfer himself to give Galactus enough power to actually combat the Black Winter a being that on panel destroyed an entire universe or a Galaxy if you want to low ball it With one hand with literally no effort at all. Only fools would undermine the capability of the components which made up their surfaces. And hey, turns out I was right about idiots whining at how Thor got staggered by a stone. Those stones turn out to have the power of thousand stars... Yes, it is not a good writing but this is how the story portrays these pebbles to be and how much power Thor really has.

Thor, according to his own word, has more raw power than Odin and this is accounted for again when he said “No force in this universe is strong enough to...” Surely, it is an exaggeration, but it doesn’t however shed some lights on how powerful Thor has become. It certainly doesn’t require a Force existing outside of the universe to stop Thor’s hammer when called by him but his hammer throw usually outmatches almost everything Asgardian Knowledge allows Thor to perceive power-wise.

He even held back amped Galactus though Cates has no respect for Galan.

He punched BRB congratulations that's literally his only feat. Everything else regular Thor could do

Thor with the OF should have more raw power but he never uses it better than Odin

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You ppl need to let narrative happen and not look at everything in terms of feats and antifeats

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@kgb725: Did you just ignore Galactus?

So Thor could do that Hammer throw normally now?

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@kgb725: Did you just ignore Galactus?

So Thor could do that Hammer throw normally now?

Neither Thor nor Galactus did anything to each other they are allies. I read the issue he dominated BRB and that's the only concrete thing hes done