Cosmic-level Scenario Thread (wait, what?)

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Scenario

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This is inspired by the ever-loosening rules of a certain scenario thread, it got me thinking. I only ever make street-levelish scenario threads because I always imagined it would be too difficult to constrain rules in a cosmic-level thread. Well, what's the worst that can happen? It's too hard? It's too easy? either way you'll have fun making a team.

In this thread you must choose 7 viners (including yourself) to face off against cosmic-level threats. You can give these viners the powers, skills, abilities, intelligence, experience and regular equipment of any character provided they are within the very few rules.

Rules:

The characters must regularly operate on Earth for most of their appearances. (Or could be considered an Earthly hero/villain)

Enemies:

Thanos

Doctor Doom

Ultron

Sinestro

Despero

Cyborg Superman

Lex Luthor

All characters are at current or most recent levels. Cyborg Superman has no Power Rings. Lex gets his Battlesuit. All of the villains will work together. The fight will take place on the battle world that the Beyonder made. Neither team gets any prep. Victory may be achieved by Kill, KO, BFR, or Decapitation. The villains start with full knowledge of your characters, just as you obviously start with your knowledge of them.

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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I will have to give this a lot of thought. I already have a few candidates in mind, though. Off hand, I think that if people play by the rules, it's a pretty good challenge.
 
Are deceased characters allowed?
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#3  Edited By dane
@Morpheus_: Yes, they are.
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#4  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Dane said:
" @Morpheus_: Yes, they are. "
At the level of power immediately prior to their death, I presume?
 
Also, are specialised versions of characters allowed? For instance, is Thorbuster Iron Man allowed?
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@Morpheus_ said:
" @Dane said:
" @Morpheus_: Yes, they are. "
At the level of power immediately prior to their death, I presume?
 
Also, are specialised versions of characters allowed? For instance, is Thorbuster Iron Man allowed?
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You can use whichever version of a character you like. As long as it's modern age and fits the rules.
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#6  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Dane said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @Dane said:
" @Morpheus_: Yes, they are. "
At the level of power immediately prior to their death, I presume?
 
Also, are specialised versions of characters allowed? For instance, is Thorbuster Iron Man allowed?
"
You can use whichever version of a character you like. As long as it's modern age and fits the rules. "
Oh, dear. I'm afraid I found a character who can solo. But you can rely on my discretion, and honour. I will neither use, nor reveal him.
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#7  Edited By The_Scourge

Hmm this looks interesting.

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#8  Edited By dane
@Morpheus_: I'm sure theres probably a few. If theres any additional rules I need, feel free to recommend them.
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#9  Edited By The_Scourge

Do you debate for the Viners/characters you made or do the Viners that were chosen debate for themselves?

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#10  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Dane said:
" @Morpheus_: I'm sure theres probably a few. If theres any additional rules I need, feel free to recommend them. "
Actually, thus far I was under the belief that it was restricted to Marvel Earth, not from any comic book in general. I have found two who could take on this team on their own from Marvel Earth, however, restrictions for either of them are hard to place. I'll elaborate in a PM.
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#11  Edited By dane
@Fresh Prince: You debate for your whole team.
 
@Morpheus_:  I have a way to ramp up the difficulty. The biggest weapon I could give to the enemies team shall be in the rules shortly.
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#12  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Dane:Stilt-Man himself will join the fray? Then the mission becomes impossible!
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#13  Edited By AtPhantom

Lady Stilt-man?
 
LMFAO

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#14  Edited By FinalStar86

Can we only pick heroes or can we pick villains/neutral characters

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#15  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@FinalStar86 said:

" Can we only pick heroes or can we pick villains/neutral characters "

 Alignment is irrelevant as long as they conform to the rules, and operate on Earth.
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#16  Edited By OldIdiotAccount

Me: Galactus.
The Pariah: Sentry.
Grendel: Herald Superman.
Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.
Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).
Spidey 15: Fallen One.
Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye).

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#17  Edited By Silver2467
@Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye.
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#18  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Silver2467 said:
" @Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye. "
Fallen One has never been to Earth, either.
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#19  Edited By Silver2467
@Morpheus_ said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye. "
Fallen One has never been to Earth, either. "
Ah, I missed that one. A majority of those then are not compatible with the rules laid down. 
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#20  Edited By Silver2467

Me: Martian Manhunter 
Spidey: Cosmic SpiderMan
Crom-Cruach: Doctor Strange
Courtney: Maxima
Merc: Kyle Rayner 
JediXMan: X-Man
Morpheus: Mister Majestic

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#21  Edited By dane
@Silver2467: strategy?
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@Dane: With the telepaths I have on my team, Despero and Thanos will not be capable of using that tactic. Despero can create psychic fire, which the Martian is susceptible to, but I can see Majestic defeating Despero on his own. Kyle Rayner can defeat Sinestro after a very hard fight. Rayner has feats comparable to Jordan, who has more than once demonstrated a certain level of superiority to Sinestro. Doctor Strange should be able to engage Doctor Doom on his own. Both are exceptionally powerful magicians, but I do give Strange an edge in that area. Doom should not be underestimated, but at the same time, I cannot conceive any logical reason (unless I am simply ignorant of a particular showing) that Strange would lose to Doom. X-Man can defeat Ultron. Ultron's adamantium would pose difficulty for Nate, but given Nate's telekinetic power, he should be able to target specific components and portions of Ultron's body and destroy or manipulate them, albeit with difficulty. Even if Ultron managed to destroy X-Man's body, which I sincerely doubt, X-Man's energy form would endure. I am not completely sure that Nate could possess Ultron, given the fact that he is machine, but I would not necessarily exclude the possibility altogether. The Martian could defeat Cyborg SuperMan without his rings. Cyborg SuperMan, although likely superseding the Martian in raw physicality, lacks versatility, without his rings, that is. Of course, he can control machinery, but I believe he still has some vulnerability to telepathy. If I am correct, the Martian could resort to a mindrape, if all else fails. If I am wrong, the Martian's energy vision should hold a rough equal to Henshaw's. His shape shifting, invisibility, and intangibility would be very useful also. He could shape shift himself into Cyborg SuperMan's body and wreck his inner machinations. The Martian's shape shifting, intangibility, and durability will be severe obstacles for SuperMan, which gives the Martian an edge. Obviously, Henshaw can reconstitute himself, but given enough physical force as well as a possible ruination of his mechanical parts, I could see the Martian defeating him, of course, not permanently. Maxima can defeat Thanos on her own. Her telepathy is at least equal to his, and she has much more versatility than he does. Using her physical power alone, she could give him a hard fight, and adding in her telekinesis, matter manipulation, force fields, energy attacks, and so on, she should be able to defeat him relatively handily. Cosmic SpiderMan could defeat Lady Stilt-Man very easily.  
 
Of course, this is only one possible match up, and the battle could go any number of ways. But the end result should be the same. Strategically, I would be looking for more elaborate ways to defeat opponents. I have members on my team with heavy amounts of versatility that should be exploited as much as possible. Of course, members should play to their strengths but, at the same, without ruling out the possibility of any other tactic. Also, if somehow Despero and Thanos are defeated before the others are, a mindrape from the Martian, Maxima, and X-Man would be virtually unstoppable. 
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#24  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt

Me: Black Bolt (I'll be yelling... a lot)
Rogue_Mar1e: Current Rogue (Control of absorption powers, etc...) (Would hopefully have absorbed Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine and Colossus before fight)
Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner with Ion Entity (Since he's GL of Earth, I would consider him Earth based, if that's not cool, let me know. Obviously he doesn't have the reality warping powers)
JediXMan: X-Man
Icon: Vulcan with Original Power set [Sway, Petra and Darwin abilities]  (Original appearance he was an Earthly villain)
InnerVenom123: Venom possessing Thor (from that What If?)
Supreme Marvel: Shazam. 
 
This is mostly a powerhouse team, so basically, we'll be rushing in and beating everything with a pulse to death. Despero is probably the toughest physically, so Sexy Merc can encase him in a dome (if we can't beat him down), since he's Ion, he should possess the power to do so. 

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@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Me: Black Bolt (I'll be yelling... a lot)Rogue_Mar1e: Current Rogue (Control of absorption powers, etc...) (Would hopefully have absorbed Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine and Colossus before fight)Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner with Ion Entity (Since he's GL of Earth, I would consider him Earth based, if that's not cool, let me know. Obviously he doesn't have the reality warping powers) JediXMan: X-Man Icon: Vulcan with Original Power set [Sway, Petra and Darwin abilities]  (Original appearance he was an Earthly villain)InnerVenom123: Venom possessing Thor (from that What If?) Supreme Marvel: Shazam.   This is mostly a powerhouse team, so basically, we'll be rushing in and beating everything with a pulse to death. Despero is probably the toughest physically, so Sexy Merc can encase him in a dome (if we can't beat him down), since he's Ion, he should possess the power to do so.  "
The Ion powers made Rayner virtually omnipotent. He surpasses classic Strange, and he could be considered a reality warper. 
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#26  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Silver2467 said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Me: Black Bolt (I'll be yelling... a lot)Rogue_Mar1e: Current Rogue (Control of absorption powers, etc...) (Would hopefully have absorbed Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine and Colossus before fight)Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner with Ion Entity (Since he's GL of Earth, I would consider him Earth based, if that's not cool, let me know. Obviously he doesn't have the reality warping powers) JediXMan: X-Man Icon: Vulcan with Original Power set [Sway, Petra and Darwin abilities]  (Original appearance he was an Earthly villain)InnerVenom123: Venom possessing Thor (from that What If?) Supreme Marvel: Shazam.   This is mostly a powerhouse team, so basically, we'll be rushing in and beating everything with a pulse to death. Despero is probably the toughest physically, so Sexy Merc can encase him in a dome (if we can't beat him down), since he's Ion, he should possess the power to do so.  "
The Ion powers made Rayner virtually omnipotent. He surpasses classic Strange, and he could be considered a reality warper.  "
Yeah, I know, which is why he loses all that and just retains Construct powers at a higher level than the GLs. Basically, retconned Ion.
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#27  Edited By Pr_Beyonder
@Silver2467 said:
"@Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye. "

I thought frankie raye was from earth
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@FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Me: Black Bolt (I'll be yelling... a lot)Rogue_Mar1e: Current Rogue (Control of absorption powers, etc...) (Would hopefully have absorbed Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine and Colossus before fight)Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner with Ion Entity (Since he's GL of Earth, I would consider him Earth based, if that's not cool, let me know. Obviously he doesn't have the reality warping powers) JediXMan: X-Man Icon: Vulcan with Original Power set [Sway, Petra and Darwin abilities]  (Original appearance he was an Earthly villain)InnerVenom123: Venom possessing Thor (from that What If?) Supreme Marvel: Shazam.   This is mostly a powerhouse team, so basically, we'll be rushing in and beating everything with a pulse to death. Despero is probably the toughest physically, so Sexy Merc can encase him in a dome (if we can't beat him down), since he's Ion, he should possess the power to do so.  "
The Ion powers made Rayner virtually omnipotent. He surpasses classic Strange, and he could be considered a reality warper.  "
Yeah, I know, which is why he loses all that and just retains Construct powers at a higher level than the GLs. Basically, retconned Ion. "
Fair enough. 
 
@Pr_Beyonder said:
" @Silver2467 said:
"@Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye. "
I thought frankie raye was from earth "
She is from earth, but she is not earth based as Nova. 
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#29  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Silver2467: (thumbs up)
 
Btw, good thread Dane. I enjoyed it :)
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@Silver2467 said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @FadeToBlackBolt said:
" Me: Black Bolt (I'll be yelling... a lot)Rogue_Mar1e: Current Rogue (Control of absorption powers, etc...) (Would hopefully have absorbed Prof X, Magneto, Storm, Wolverine and Colossus before fight)Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner with Ion Entity (Since he's GL of Earth, I would consider him Earth based, if that's not cool, let me know. Obviously he doesn't have the reality warping powers) JediXMan: X-Man Icon: Vulcan with Original Power set [Sway, Petra and Darwin abilities]  (Original appearance he was an Earthly villain)InnerVenom123: Venom possessing Thor (from that What If?) Supreme Marvel: Shazam.   This is mostly a powerhouse team, so basically, we'll be rushing in and beating everything with a pulse to death. Despero is probably the toughest physically, so Sexy Merc can encase him in a dome (if we can't beat him down), since he's Ion, he should possess the power to do so.  "
The Ion powers made Rayner virtually omnipotent. He surpasses classic Strange, and he could be considered a reality warper.  "
Yeah, I know, which is why he loses all that and just retains Construct powers at a higher level than the GLs. Basically, retconned Ion. "
Fair enough. 
 
@Pr_Beyonder said:
" @Silver2467 said:
"@Fortanono said:

" Me: Galactus.The Pariah: Sentry.Grendel: Herald Superman.Yung ANcient One: Martian Manhunter.Sukislide: Nova (Richard Rider).Spidey 15: Fallen One.Power NeXus: Nova (Frankie Raye). "

Galactus is not earth based. Neither are Rider nor Raye. "
I thought frankie raye was from earth "
She is from earth, but she is not earth based as Nova.  "

I gotcha
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@Dane:
What have you done with the real Dane you lousy Skrull? A cosmic level battle? i'm on to you.
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Villain team: 
Thanos
Doctor Doom
Ultron
Sinestro
Despero
Cyborg Superman
Lady Stilt-Man

      
My counter team: 
Myself: SA Superman (I'll take on Thanos)
Decoy Elite: Ghost Rider (he deals with Doom)
Silver2467: Atom (Ray Palmer, classic version, he takes down Ultron from the inside)
Dark Huntress: Star Sapphire (Carol Ferris, she deals with Sinestro, she is currently on Earth with Hal)
GreenLantern555: Black Adam (he deals with Despero)
Power Nexus: Captain Atom (to deal with Cyborg Supes)
Nobody: Constrictor (takes out Stilt-Woman and makes her cry)
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#33  Edited By dane
@Yaujtapool: Zoom counts as time manipulation.
 
@FadeToBlackBolt: No to Rogue having those powers.
 
@Jake Fury: Not bad, though I'm not sure Atom would work against Ultron. I seem to remember Ultron having specific defenses against shrinking people. i.e. Hank Pym and Ares with Pym Particles.
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#34  Edited By Power NeXus

Never thought I'd say this about a Dane Scenario thread, but I'm going to stay out of this one. 
I know street levelers, but I don't know cosmic dudes.
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@Dane: I didn't think about that either. I'm sure he's got some internal defense system. 
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#36  Edited By sexy_merc
@FadeToBlackBolt:@Silver2467: 
 
Excellent. Thanks for putting me at my rightful place. Nice teams by the way.
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#37  Edited By Silver2467
@Sexy Merc: No problem. 
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#38  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Sexy Merc: Heh, no worries :)
 
Rogue_Mar1e: No longer Rogue, instead she can be Wonder Woman.
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#39  Edited By DedmanWalkin
@Power NeXus said:
" Never thought I'd say this about a Dane Scenario thread, but I'm going to stay out of this one. I know street levelers, but I don't know cosmic dudes. "
Likewise, I am a little befuddle on who to choose. I have some ideas but I don't know how to take down some of these guys. 
 
I was thinking of using some different versions of people like Blue Lantern Flash and Green Lantern Batman, would that be admissible?
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#41  Edited By sexy_merc
@Silver2467: Great team...I see we thought similarly with telepaths.
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#42  Edited By Silver2467
@Sexy Merc: Same to you. Excellent team. I appreciate being placed as the Martian. :)
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#43  Edited By sexy_merc
@Silver2467: You have that attitude about you that screams J'onn for some reason. Buckshot as Maj is pretty obvious. I was contemplating on whether to put Saturn or Wielder for Black Adam but I ended up choosing Wielder in hopes of having Saturn as Composite Superman but he has matter manipulation so yeah. Dark Huntress and Maxima was an easy choice. I would have gave Morph_ Surfer had he been Earth based but Nate is understandable for him as well. Magnus is a fan of Earth-22 Superman, so I went with that, almost had him as Alan Scott but Kyle has the Starheart so yeah, I'm Kyle..lol.
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#44  Edited By Silver2467
@Sexy Merc said:
" @Silver2467: You have that attitude about you that screams J'onn for some reason. Buckshot as Maj is pretty obvious. I was contemplating on whether to put Saturn or Wielder for Black Adam but I ended up choosing Wielder in hopes of having Saturn as Composite Superman but he has matter manipulation so yeah. Dark Huntress and Maxima was an easy choice. I would have gave Morph_ Surfer had he been Earth based but Nate is understandable for him as well. Magnus is a fan of Earth-22 Superman, so I went with that, almost had him as Alan Scott but Kyle has the Starheart so yeah, I'm Kyle..lol. "
These are well thought out choices. The characters do match with the users you chose. 
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#45  Edited By FinalStar86

Myself: Ice Man
Atphantom: Doctor Fate [Kent original]
Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner
Zoom: Impulse
Mjolnir: Black Adam
Silver: Amazo 
Beatboks1: Alan Scott

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#46  Edited By Mercy_
@Silver2467: Yay! Me! ;)
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#47  Edited By Silver2467
@FinalStar86 said:
" Myself: Ice ManAtphantom: Doctor Fate [Kent original] Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner Zoom: Impulse Danhimself: Superboy Silver: Amazo  Beatboks1: Alan Scott "
O__O Amazo? That would be epic.  
 
Excellent team. 
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#48  Edited By FinalStar86
@Silver2467 said:
" @FinalStar86 said:
" Myself: Ice ManAtphantom: Doctor Fate [Kent original] Sexy Merc: Kyle Rayner Zoom: Impulse Danhimself: Superboy Silver: Amazo  Beatboks1: Alan Scott "
O__O Amazo? That would be epic.   Excellent team.  "
yeah I chose him because he was the only Earth based character I could think of that might be able to combat the Fury and you were the only one I could think of LOL
 
But I edited it a bit, I swapped Danhimself and Superboy out for Mjolnir and Black Adam
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#49  Edited By sexy_merc
@FinalStar86: Great team. I was going to put you in for Superman or Hal but I thought 1 Lantern and Earth-22 Superman would be enough,
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#50  Edited By FinalStar86
@Sexy Merc: True, its more fun to make a team with variety