@cosmoman: Not at all, I'm just going by Darkseid's consistent power levels whilst you're going for nigh omnipotent base Darkseid scaling off of AM and him having universal durability. Basically you and I will never be able to agree with one another nor work something up to reach a middle ground, the gap between where I put Darkseid and where you put him at is simply too massive for that to happen. Digging up scans seems like a pain in the arse for me right now, I haven't debated comics in nearly 2 years and I'm too lazy to look 'em up and as you can see I'm trying my best to avoid engaging in prolonged debates since I'll be gone from CV again very soon. Forgive me if I came off as rude or condescending in any of my conversations with you, that was not the intention whatsoever.
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"You mentioned something earlier.... Where was it stated that N52 Anti-monitor was only universal with the ALE?"
Could be higher, he used it to rip open the multiverse at the start of the arc (I think it was implied - he had supreme power/nigh omnipotence at his disposal aka the ALE so it makes perfect sense that he did it with ALE mainly because of his subsequent showings after he lost said power puts him far below the level you're claiming that he's regularly at). Ergo, New 52 AM could only achieve that level of power using the ALE, and DC's cosmic entities often tend to have linear stats meaning they can tank as much damage as they can dish out, and without it he's been hurt and fazed by things that aren't universal in power and he was even killed by the ALE with laughable/disappointing ease which, once again, contradicts the argument of him having the power to wipe out entire universes on his own and that tells me he wasn't anywhere near as powerful as he was during the end of COIE or even SCW wherein he got trashed by a galaxy level explosion and then killed off by Superboy Prime. What Metron mentioned about the universal erasing shenanigans was merely a recap of the events of the previous crisis.
Odin/Galac (Than) >>>>>> Star level.
First of all, Thanos is not on Odin's tier at all, the latter was clearly holding back, if he had unleashed his full might on Thanos's face he'd have erased him from existence right there and then (multi galaxy level busting power to nigh universal with high ends is way out of Thanos's paygrade). Tanking a few unquatifable blasts from Odin doesn't necessarily prove he can tank hits capable of erasing hundreds of stars, hell the next instance you've cited regarding the black hole feat dedicates that he cannot survive a serious punch² given he was hurt/bleeding and had to rest in order to fully recover from it and coupled with dozens of other similar instances in which he gets slapped around by attacks far below solar system level further supplements my initial stance.
Secondly, I don't know if it was deliberate or not but you've left out the fact that Galactus was heavily depleted by Hunger, a dimension-eating entity, that was secretly feeding off of his cosmic energy throughout the whole story and he was later put on his cosmic arse by two colliding planets and thus he couldn't have been outputting anything higher than planet level energy against Thanos's shields. Besides, tanking energy blasts from a weak & depleted Galacuts is something everyone and their mother did, it's far from impressive and downright criminal to use for scaling and don't even get me started on how inconsistent Galactus can be.
...so much for not wanting to engage in a lengthy debate 😔
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