Cosmic Fear Garou vs Monarch

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Cosmic Fear Garou

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  • Both in-character.
  • Random encounter.
  • Win by any means.
  • Takes place on Apokolips.

Who wins and why?

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Monarch ones shots. He can bust real stars instead of fake ones.

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Monarch ones shots. He can bust real stars instead of fake ones.

Scans of Monarch busting stars?

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@darkpsychiclord_prime: Monarch does win if we scale him off of amped up Prime who should be well above Garou taking into account his mano y mano with juiced up BWL in Death Metal arc. Regardless, he's literally powered up by the big bang so if Garou somehow manages to breach his armor that contains the big bang, he'd only be killing himself.

Monarch FTW.

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Monarch blitzes and tears him to shreds

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#9  Edited By KillianDuclark

When the bait is this low effort it's not even fun to play along

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Spite

Monarch is universal at bear minimum and at mid ball multi universe.

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yeah monarch dogwalks him

smells like spite

my opinion = fax

ur opinion = creditless

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Monarch

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@darkpsychiclord_prime: Monarch does win if we scale him off of amped up Prime who should be well above Garou taking into account his mano y mano with juiced up BWL in Death Metal arc. Regardless, he's literally powered up by the big bang so if Garou somehow manages to breach his armor that contains the big bang, he'd only be killing himself.

Monarch FTW.

How much would you scale Monarch to Superman Prime? Given he lost to him pretty quickly. Also, the Superboy Prime who went against BWL not only was first defeated by him, but doesn't seem to be on the same powerlevel as he was in Post-Crisis, as he was pretty inconsistent given that at times he was struggling with Flashes, two Supermen, and even lost to the Teen Titans. I know Superman Prime is an amped Post-Crisis Superboy Prime, but how much amped was he? I'm just calling into question the scaling, given that's what people use to debate Monarch. Where would you place his AP and durability?

For the sake of the argument, let's just say if Garou manages to breach his armor and makes him explode he wins.

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Spite

Monarch is universal at bear minimum and at mid ball multi universe.

Based on what? His armor breaking and releasing his full power couldn't fully destroy a single universe.

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When the bait is this low effort it's not even fun to play along

Maybe because it's not bait

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Garou one shots

Monarch is fodder

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@futureisbest said:

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Monarch is universal at bear minimum and at mid ball multi universe.

Based on what? His armor breaking and releasing his full power couldn't fully destroy a single universe.

I'm not scaling him to that, I'm scaling him to pre-rebirth Captain Atom which he's far stronger than in which he stomps 52 Captain Atom and multiple Supermans at the same time along against the justice league members like Hal Jordan.

and Captain Atom can do this.

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And can time travel

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@futureisbest: You know Captain Atom did that in the Quantum field right? Where he's far more powerful as it's his source of power. He basically has reality warping powers in there. He's nowhere near that level outside. As for time travel, that only happens when he absorbs too much energy, and he doesn't control it, so he can't use it in a fight.

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@darkpsychiclord_prime: And you do know all captain atoms even monarch always taps into the quantum realm to use their powers right? the same quantum realm that allows them to pull off feats like the ones I posted above and the Captain Atom wasn't able to do that unless he removes his mental barrier right?

This also doesn't answer the question of what happens if he drags Garou into the quantum realm, this happened with superboy prime, this can happen with Garou.

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@futureisbest: They can never use the full power of the quantum field, hence Captain Atom is herald tier at best, and even Monarch can't even fully destroy a universe by releasing all his energy. Captain Atom can't replicate that feat unless he's in the quantum field.

Superboy Prime was never BFR'd to the quantum field as far as I'm aware, certainly not by Monarch, nor has Monarch done it to anyone. Even if he could or would, Garou can travel through universes and dimensions as well.

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DarkPsychicLord_Prime is just another marvel/OPM wanker.

Shame, monarch one shot.

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Garou can't do shit to the armor, he get one shot.

Even Superboy prime can move planet at FTL speed, and superman prime is far far stronger.

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@darkpsychiclord_prime: Yes they can as he used it against nekron in his own realm.

Again, that's because Nekron was bringing the quantum field into his own realm. It was not done by Captain Atom willingly. He then absorbed some of the quantum energy Nekron had and returned to his own universe IIRC. Monarch has never BFR'd anyone into the quantum field, and this fight is in character.

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@sirdragonfly: Garou was surprised by moon level attack.

he was surprised that the attack was moon level or about the attack's range?

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@sirdragonfly: Garou was surprised by moon level attack.

Superman Prime was really REALLY hurt by a city level explosion

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Monarch's armor was cracked by a room level attack

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You don't want to go there, Superboy Prime has a LOT of low showings. Besides, neither Saitama or garou know they destroyed thousands of star systems, so Garou doesn't know his own strength.

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@lucifer10 said:

@sirdragonfly: Garou was surprised by moon level attack.

Superman Prime was really REALLY hurt by a city level explosion

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Monarch's armor was cracked by a room level attack

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You don't want to go there, Superboy Prime has a LOT of low showings. Besides, neither Saitama or garou know they destroyed thousands of star systems, so Garou doesn't know his own strength.

You do know AP is a thing? and why are you arguing in your own thread?

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@darkpsychiclord_prime: Yes they can as he used it against nekron in his own realm.

Again, that's because Nekron was bringing the quantum field into his own realm. It was not done by Captain Atom willingly. He then absorbed some of the quantum energy Nekron had and returned to his own universe IIRC. Monarch has never BFR'd anyone into the quantum field, and this fight is in character.

That's wrong he did it after the fact that Captain Atom already became one with the quantum field. What are you even talking about? He was already amp by it by the time Nekron did that, the only problem was Nekron was draining the universe of the living because he was pulling the quantum field until his realm.

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monarch slap him around.

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also monarch (captain atom) didn't die after the big bang\his armor destroy.

and he beat a lot of high tier (superman and wonder woman level) with ease.

garou will die badly, he was not able to grow more powerful in the end, he has limit, he can't even use time power and become slat by god.

either way, superman prime strong >>>>>>>>>>>>> garou strong.

garou will not do shit to the armor, he die badly and you must be joking if you think he can win.

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#32  Edited By ProfessorRespect

Corrections

@prime10000 said:

also monarch (captain atom) didn't die after the big bang\his armor destroy.

He lost his memory, drastically weakened himself afterwards and was KO'd for long enough to arrive in present day Earth and to be kidnapped by regular army folk. It's not really a feat for him by any sense of the word.

It wasn't a "big bang" either. The blast was contained via Monitor shields and did......well, not a whole lot even to what was exposed to the blast range at the time.

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Nothing changed. Seriously what the hell Monarch blinks him away