Cosmic Armoured Superman vs HOTU Thanos

Fighting location: A empty undestroyable multiverse

Victory Conditions: Death/K.O

Battle Prerequisites: None

Motivation: Both want to kill each other.

Equiqment: Thanos with HOTU

Preparation: None

Bloodlust: On

Knowledge: No

@sungsam@daxnovu@zgtfreak

HOTU, no effort

I don't read comics, so I don't know.

HOTU Thanos stomps this fodder.

HOTU absorbs him as well.

HOTU. Probably can take this.

Thanos accidentally

HOTU Thanos's feats were reduced to being retconned into Universe level tier though. Starlin established that the Marvel Abstracts he absorbed were just Local Universe Manifestations.

HOTU Thanos's Multiversal power is derived from raw divine energy from TOAA, rather than Dimensional tiering.

CASupes would crush HOTU Thanos though, since he is a Multi-Megaversal being (while in the Monitor Sphere) a Morrisonid Platonic being of Pure Thought.

It appears to me that Morrison's portrayal of Monitors were largely inspired by Plato's Theory of Forms. An archetypal world superior to the physical reality. And Morrison's Monitor Sphere scales to the rest of the physical universe. So although a lot of users compare the Monitor Sphere to Plato's World, it's not the same.

In the same sense that the Presence is not the same as God or Allah we know of from our religions.

The Monitor Sphere is an archetypal hyper-world (all the Monitors are archetypes) to the rest of the residents of the Source Wall Macrocosm. At least as such, the Monitors form a large massive pantheon alongside Mythological Gods, Endless and other beings that DC writers (from Gaiman to Morrison to Matteis) form of thought.

Since DC writers, although are diverse in contradicting each other in DC's true cosmological hierarchy, they all seem to like to use thought analogues. That is why DC Cosmics like Pralaya, Lucifer, Mandrakk or Dream tend to appear more non-corporeal than even Marvel abstracts. Existing in places of 'existence' (if you can call it that) that are superior to Time and Space.

The Dreaming transcends Duality. Lucifer transcended physics many times and survived the Void and could percieve Infinite Layers of Reality. Mandrakk exists in an archetypal form beyond reality. Pralaya is an inevitable end of birth and rebirth to existence.

DC Cosmics tend to have a, more non-corporeality, and more omnilocked against reality than Marvel Cosmics. This is a general advantage I tend to see in them.

Where do I get all this? Absorbing a bunch of Universe level abstracts will not help HOTU Thanos absorb a being of pure thought beyond Megaversal levels of existence.

@sungsam: in that case let's just say pre retcon hotu thanos wins lol

HOTU Thanos wins.

Superman realizes the HOTU is too Hot

The problem is that, If I recall. The rules of this forum indicate we use the latest versions of the character + weapon we speak of, unless the OP specifies it. And he did not specify pre-Retcon.

This is why 99.9% of Beyonder threads are titled under "Pre-Retcon" because Marvel bois don't want to admit that SW Beyonder resembles a massive outlier compared to the vast majority of Beyonder's portrayal for the rest of Marvel history that occasionally make Beyonder look no stronger than Zeno.

@sungsam: yeah i agree

but i hope one day beyonder gets his old position back

like they did with molecule man in SW (2015)

that day will come its just a matter of time

@sungsam How do you think TR would do against Pre-Retcon Thanos w/HOTU? I personally think TR has better feats such as beating Mandrakk, who has similar feats to Thanos like killing Spectre and the Radiant(who are arguably on the same level as LT)