This is Superman at his strongest from Detective Comics without any injuries; whereas this is Darkseid at his strongest from Detective Comics without any injuries.
Superman in prime, and has Cosmic Armor; whereas Darkseid in prime, and has Soulfire.
The Source is nearly The Presence level. One of the main parts of Primal Monitor..
SF Darkseid's feat is better.
Question, sorry for my lack of comic book understanding, but wasn't The Source heavily weakened during the storyline when he fought against Darkseid, which is why Darkseid gave him trouble?
Soulfire Darkseid? Have seen that here in the past but no idea what it means exactly.
That's the version of Darkseid which appeared during the Post-Crisis of Detective Comics where he obtained an item called Soulfire, which allowed him to fight The Source in Death of the New Gods storyline by Jim Starlin.
@thought_robot: As I showed in that link, the Source Wall at the time of Death of the New God's surrounded the Promethian Galaxy as part of the edge of the universe. While this comic was being made, where Darkseid battled The Source, Final Crisis and this Cosmic Map was released with a new look at it. We can't link the two as the same because the authors said they made a mistake.
The Dark Knight Metal further directly discussed this exact problem. The Source Wall was busted and behind it was Bleedspace. We learned two things. The first, the Source Wall around each universe was retconned. The second, that the Source Wall was fake around the Multiverse and only lead to Bleedspace. There was nothing behind it. The Souce somewhere in Bleedspace or beyond it. Monitors are the only beings who can bottle The Bleed. Breaking it let out Perpetua. Bleedspace was back there and then Over Monitor eventually.
Nil exists past the Bleedspace. And the Over Monitor's Edge is directly touching Nil.
Mandrakk confirms. He was kicked out of Nil, fell all the way through the Over Monitor and landed in the Dark Dimension, another Multiverse.
@godsvileanddarkwing: Death of the New Gods, where this Darkseid and Source fight take place, was written at the same time and just before Final Crisis started. Grant Morrison said just ignore it entirely, the entire comic series of Death of the New Gods. It isn't canon to his cosmology even though he wrote it. He immediately replaced it all with Final Crisis ongoings.
@godsvileanddarkwing: Death of the New Gods, where this Darkseid and Source fight take place, was written at the same time and just before Final Crisis started. Grant Morrison said just ignore it entirely, the entire comic series of Death of the New Gods. It isn't canon to his cosmology even though he wrote it. He immediately replaced it all with Final Crisis ongoings.
So in otherwords, Soulfire Darkseid is non-canon just like Heart of the Universe Thanos?
@tifalockhart: yea when did this happen also how is that worse than a guy who got beaten by a less than skyfather level attack honestly there biggest claim to fame is viewing the multiverse inside the orrey as germs
@tifalockhart: yea when did this happen also how is that worse than a guy who got beaten by a less than skyfather level attack honestly there biggest claim to fame is viewing the multiverse inside the orrey as germs
@godsvileanddarkwing: yes indeed I viewed a cav done between asgardianbrony I think his name is and scathantheapprover and I must say brony made real good points though the cav itself certainly was a heated mess
Cosmic Armor Superman? You mean Thought Robot? Uncultured hipster
Just kidding, joked aside, CAS should win handily. Theybwere manipulating stories, actual fiction, The Source has some feats where he was connected to the Presence, but he hasnt really shown them himself. Plus I do not see the Presence being threatened by any other creature whatsoever regardless of power unlike with The Source
Cosmic Armor Superman? You mean Thought Robot? Uncultured hipster
Just kidding, joked aside, CAS should win handily. Theybwere manipulating stories, actual fiction, The Source has some feats where he was connected to the Presence, but he hasnt really shown them himself. Plus I do not see the Presence being threatened by any other creature whatsoever regardless of power unlike with The Source
@godsvileanddarkwing: yes indeed I viewed a cav done between asgardianbrony I think his name is and scathantheapprover and I must say brony made real good points though the cav itself certainly was a heated mess
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