Cosmic Armor will never be defeated by J’onn J’onzz’ telepathy
with respect.
mandrakk's own lasers were blocked by a thanagarian weapon.
which martian manhunter took to the face
the idea that low-showings never happens to the monitors would im afraid flawed and wrong. if mxy was fighting those three. he would have just reality warped them away.
Thanks for not being an A-hole. We need more posters like you in here.
But we got a lot of nigh-Omnipotents getting hurt before, probably surprised by mere superheroes. And Nth metal has a historyof defeating nigh-Omnipotents before like Onimar Synn.
But the J'onn incident showed Mxypltk is defeated by mere telepathy. It's very direct.
i am an asshole. a proud one. 10 times even more so than "sungsam" and many users will tell you that to the point i am surprised why you are even praising me this much. you really have not seen my other debates have you?
but you pointed out inconsistencies. so the other side will do the same. mandrakk is not nigh omnipotent. and you denying scans doesnt help move the conversation anymore.
only thing nigh omnipotent in dc is either source or overvoid
So is Mxy more powerful than everyone except top tiers now?
No.
The 5th Dimension (That is Imagination) and the Dark Multiverse (Hopes, Fears, Nightmares, Dreams) are both outside the Source Wall. They're very similar in nature.
Logically, the rest of the Endless should all transcend that since they are roughly on even with Dream. And the Endless as of now, exist on the same level as the 5th Dimension. Outside the Source Wall.
I might even say the Endless might exist beyond the 6th Dimension as well, because Perpetua and her sons still can die, still can dream, still can desire. So that means the Endless come to them as well.
So is Mxy more powerful than everyone except top tiers now?
No.
The 5th Dimension (That is Imagination) and the Dark Multiverse (Hopes, Fears, Nightmares, Dreams) are both outside the Source Wall. They're very similar in nature.
Logically, the rest of the Endless should all transcend that since they are roughly on even with Dream. And the Endless as of now, exist on the same level as the 5th Dimension. Outside the Source Wall.
I might even say the Endless might exist beyond the 6th Dimension as well, because Perpetua and her sons still can die, still can dream, still can desire. So that means the Endless come to them as well.
That makes sense, but at this point, I consider The Endless Tip Tiers as well so I should have been more specific. This seems like a major boost up for higher level beings on that caliber as well. Even now, Destiny still holds ALL of the DC in his book, like literally holding creation from outside, in the void. Lucifer, Michael, Death, Delirium scale to that.
@sungsam: So where do you think Mxy scales against Spectre now? We are doing tiering on another forum.
Spectre is inconsistent, not sure where to accurately place him because it is difficult to pin-point his most common power level. But he should be Multiverse level at base. With no jobbing.
@sungsam: So you would rank him above Spectre? Feat wise I argued they were same tier with fluctuating positions.
The Spectre only appears as powerful as Presence wants him to be. That is why it is difficult to scale the Spectre under anyone. Definitely under the Presence.
VIA Dimensional Hierarchy, Mxy is several infinite orders over Spectre. But the Spectre is not limited to Dimensional Hierarchy. Rather, his feats must talk instead.
@sungsam: And that's one of my delimnas. Mxy beats Spectre in one moment, then you have Spectre absorbing all magic and leaving 5-d imps powerless. Thewe really needs to be consistency ha
@sungsam: And that's one of my delimnas. Mxy beats Spectre in one moment, then you have Spectre absorbing all magic and leaving 5-d imps powerless. Thewe really needs to be consistency ha
Given the correct amount of Amps, I think Spectre can even stomp Lucifer and Michael combined. But that just depends on how much the Presence wants the Spectre to accomplish his mission.
Anyway. So far, Rijehu, have you been reading up Lucifer 2018-2019? Spectre appears in Lucifer now! Lucifer 2019 Issue 5.
Although he is grey, and not green for some reason. I don't get it.
@sungsam: I had that same argument a few years ago. Somebody told me that The Spectre backed by the presence could beat anybody. And I'm like well duh, an ANT backed by the Presence would beat anybody. It's the Presence granting access to power lol.
I just got to that issue actually. I love how LuciFer knows what's happening and nobody believes him lol
Imagination cannot compete with Override control of the Monitor Sphere of the 6th Dimension. Infinite Imagination isn't powerful enough to even get to the 6th Dimension. If not for Barbatos' hole he made, Mr. Mxyzptlk couldn't get them there even with all of his power.
Mandrakk remakes Nil and Neon and Alden fall out of Nil into the Cosmic Forge in the 6th Dimension. Which is a place beyond all impossibilty.
Alden and Neon kept their essence "mysteriously" and they fell into the Cosmic Forge from above in an even higher dimension and space than the 6th Dimension.
Mandrakk is so far beyond the 6th Dimension, that the infinite power of Creation of two separate infinite multiverses cannot even phase him. No level of Imagination or Physics control affects him.
The Cosmic Armor unwrites Mr. Mxyzptlk. He is a whole two tiers above what Mr. Mxyzptlk said that all of his power could not even open a doorway to, let alone contend with. All versions of Mxyzptlk are the same, WF included.
@ginman333: Cosmic Armor Superman, the one who's is an adapting robot machine is so powerful. He stated that he exists in Nil which is above and beyond all dimensions and understanding, which is Outerversal. He can resist plot manipulation, and Limbo looks so small compared to Nil and weak.
@daxnovu: Great Information, but one question (although not relating to this topic) would you say that Cosmic Armour Superman is omnipotent (or nigh-omni) Can he blink/destroy the DC Multiverse all by himself, including The Presence, Pralaya, Lucifer Morning Star and Michael Demiurgos (Those beings are believed, and considered to be the most powerful entities in DC itself) Also are Nil Moniters and those ordinary moniters the same? if so then Thought Robot is the most powerful being in dc, because Rox Ogama was a moniter and he killed The Presence, (I am certain he was possessed by Mandrakk) so leaving this all to mean that Mandraak was stronger then The Presence and since the monsters couldn't take him down leaving them having to create a plot device, - Thought Robot because they themselves couldn't even take you down (Mandrakk) in a literal sense, is Cosmic Armour Superman the strongest and resides outside the omniverse?
@daxnovu: Doesnt apply to WF mxy who destroyed all numbered dimensions despite himself saying the 6th dimension was beyond him. WF bends DC logic. Non wf mxy gets rekt so hard its not even funny but WF stomps CAS while laughing
@deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5: WF mxy destoryed all numbered dimensions even though that should have been impossible for him. He beats CAS easily if its WF and only if its WF
@deactivated-5e0e83bb0dbb5: WF mxy destoryed all numbered dimensions even though that should have been impossible for him. He beats CAS easily if its WF and only if its WF
The Presence has no boxing feats, which means Tyson or the bully down the road can beat him in a boxing match. That is such a frail and weak argument, it is basically the adult version of Nuh Uhhh. The Nuh Uh argument belongs on the school playground back when we were like 7 years old. Not here.
Perpetua and the Monitors of the COIE are not on par with the Source or the Chronicler. Mxy himself said isn't on their level. Chronicler made it clear he is farabove Perpetua. Chronicler comes from the Source Overvoid and is protected by it.
Mandrakk is the corrupted side of the Overvoid. The answer is clear. This shouldn't even be a debate anymore. The answer was given in the comic. Just a few stragglers in a specific group left here that just hate it, vividly so.
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