Composite MCU hero vs Composite DCEU hero

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Each of them possess the combined powers And abilities from the heroes of their universe

Fight stipulations

1. No holding back

2. To the death

3. Fighting to the best of their abilities

4. They have no knowledge

5. They have no time to prepare

Rounds

1. Without infinity stones

2. With infinity stones

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Been done before, and a being as fast as the Flash but can hit as hard as Superman isn't getting beat. It's not happening.

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@diarrhearegatta: nice try mate

Having d power of Wanda, strange, carol and Thor in a single body beats any thing of DC

Superman is already leagues above den so adding anything from d league won't change anything aside from flash speed

Imagine a being with hulk size and his striking power

Speed and invulnerability of Carol

Strength and durability of Thor ,

Tk and tp of Wanda and magical powers of strange

D flight of vison

Brain of stark

And skill of cap , its tiers above anything DC can offer

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MCU hero stomps.

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@el-kun: I mean, Carol's not exactly MFTL in combat speed...... and the rest of those dudes aren't exactly fast. A Hulk body doesn't exactly add anything but it'll make the composite slower as it'll have more mass to carry around. Superman's already FTS in combat based on what the fight scenes show so I'm gonna need something around about that level.

Also, the composite would have also have Vision's body on top of that, so it'll just get hacked. Marvel's got more ability but they ain't got the speed, and as such will struggle with the DC composite, which will be able to run rings around it before it can use any of the really rough stuff

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MCU has a more dynamic powersets and wins

Outside of Superman the DCEU doesn't have anything

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#9  Edited By death4bunnies  Moderator

Quicksilvers speed, Carols flight/duribility, Strombreaker, TK, The magic of Strange, and the damage output of Thor.

Covered in a vibranuim/ Nanotech Ironman suit.

MCU Stomps.

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@death4bunnies: That'll just make hacking easier, if you think about it

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Composite DCEU would blitz.

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@death4bunnies: That'll just make hacking easier, if you think about it

Hacking what? The Ironman suit? Via Cyborg?

A composite MCU hero should include Vision. Vision has better hacking/cyber battle feats than Cyborg I believe. Cyborg hacked the DoD, and the batcave iirc. Vision beat Ulton in a cyber battle.

Close but composite MCU hero has some hacking defense.

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Do the stats stack?

Either way, DCEU should win. With Flash's mental speed and Enchantress' instant teleportation the fight could be over before the MCU character can think. With something like a neck snap or Diana's sword, it would be too easy.

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MCU murders. Clark's strength and speed won't be enough here. The MCU has far more versatility and diverse set of powers

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@death4bunnies:

With Flash's mental speed and Enchantress' instant teleportation the fight could be over before the MCU character can think. With something like a neck snap or Diana's sword, it would be too easy.

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@death4bunnies: Quicksilver? No. That Yo-Yo girl would be a problem though. Dang, she's fast.

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Composite DCEU should win if speed is stacked.

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#20 death4bunnies  Moderator

@boc said:

Do the stats stack?

Either way, DCEU should win. With Flash's mental speed and Enchantress' instant teleportation the fight could be over before the MCU character can think. With something like a neck snap or Diana's sword, it would be too easy.

What about Yo-yo and quicksilver.

Here is a respect thread for Yo-yo.

Here is one for Quicksilver

Here are some Yo-yo feats.

Yo-yo is pretty fast, and she can see time in slow-motion before she moves.

Also, if we include the inhumans MCU has teleportation.

What seals the deal for me is MCU Karnak; He has legit battle pre-cog. He can see the battles outcomes and adjust accordingly.

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#21 death4bunnies  Moderator

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@death4bunnies: Quicksilver? No. That Yo-Yo girl would be a problem though. Dang, she's fast.

I the MCU Karnak would be a issue also.

Karnak wielding Stormbreaker would be fearsome.

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Doomsday's adaptation, Superman's strength and speed, Athur's trident and Karathen summoning, Diana's braces, shield, and sword, Ocean masters and Batman's skill, Enchantress's teleportation. I don't see DCEU losing other than struggling with Wanda's powers.

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The MCU has insane power and hax, but they lack the combat speed to actually tag the composite DCEU.

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@ljayg said:

Doomsday's adaptation, Superman's strength and speed, Athur's trident and Karathen summoning, Diana's braces, shield, and sword, Ocean masters and Batman's skill, Enchantress's teleportation. I don't see DCEU losing other than struggling with Wanda's powers.

How does the composite bypass Karnaks pre-cog powers?

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@ljayg: Dormammu,Thanos with the IG and dozens of other powers stomp.

This is only heroes dude.

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MCU has too much versatility.

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#27 death4bunnies  Moderator

The MCU has insane power and hax, but they lack the combat speed to actually tag the composite DCEU.

What about Yo-yo?

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@ljayg: Half of what you listed are villains, this fight is heroes only. Not that it matters though because if we add villains with their gear to the teams this becomes a stomp in favor of the MCU.

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#30 death4bunnies  Moderator

@death4bunnies: Speed feats?

Here is a respect thread.

Here Yo-yo outpaces a energy blast.

And here she see the world as 'statues'.

She has quite a few legit speed feats, and he perception isnt limited by here yo-yo movement, she seems to be able to perceive things in slo-motion, without moving.

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@death4bunnies: If it were just quicksilver and yo-yo, it would be debatable leaning towards them not reacting in time for me. But if inhumans is canon, they could win with Karnak. I've never seen the show.

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@boc said:

@death4bunnies: If it were just quicksilver and yo-yo, it would be debatable leaning towards them not reacting in time for me. But if inhumans is canon, they could win with Karnak. I've never seen the show.

Inhumans are MCU cannon.

Karnak was badass, but they nurfed the hell outta Black bolt they also (spoilers)shaved medusas head in like E2 It was a odd show, with tons of faults, but I enjoyed it.

I think it was about on par with Suicide Squad, tons of potential, kinda poor story telling.

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@boc said:

@death4bunnies: If it were just quicksilver and yo-yo, it would be debatable leaning towards them not reacting in time for me. But if inhumans is canon, they could win with Karnak. I've never seen the show.

Inhumans are MCU cannon.

Karnak was badass, but they nurfed the hell outta Black bolt they also (spoilers)shaved medusas head in like E2 It was a odd show, with tons of faults, but I enjoyed it.

I think it was about on par with Suicide Squad, tons of potential, kinda poor story telling.

Interesting

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@lan_fan: yoyo is faster Dan Superman and should be even faster Dan flash her only weakness is dat she has to come back to her point of origin in wich she started

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#36  Edited By incursion2

Mcu hero wins waaaaay to much hax

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@gxrevs06 said:

MCU murders. Clark's strength and speed won't be enough here. The MCU has far more versatility and diverse set of powers

@gxrevs06 said:

MCU murders. Clark's strength and speed won't be enough here. The MCU has far more versatility and diverse set of powers

@gxrevs06 said:

Aquaman's telepathy, Enchantress mindrape ( if u classify her as hero, who actually had to be controlled by Amanda ), Superman's statue mode combat and reaction speed, Barry's time travelling ( if u count BvS feat ), Diana's autoobliterating shields, Enchantress instant teleportation etc. U think MCU is more versatile ?

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#38  Edited By ThEBeStOfTheBeST

@thevvitchking: Are we including AOS and inhumans..etc? If so, then the MCU wins (waaaay too haxxy).

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#39  Edited By red_ruby_petal

Superman with a sword vs A hulking lightning magician, with telekenises, groot maelability and regeneration, Iron Man’s suit which pairs with lightning, add in to the fact that they are basically a 100x bigger. Well........

Would be one hell of cool fight though, as if the MCU were some final boss and the DCEU was the player in a video game.

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#40 death4bunnies  Moderator

@sexybayonetta22:

Yes MCU is way more versatile due to having more movies, and a bunch of cannon TV shows. If this was limited to MCU Movies heroes the MCU team still has crazy hax. Im going to try to list MCU heroes, I will probably miss some.

From 'Inhumans' the TV show

Black Bolt (Blackagar Boltagon) - The silent king of the Inhuman city of Attilan whose voice is so loud he does not speak and instead relies on sign language to communicate. Building level by feats, was stated to be a city buster.

Medusa (Medusalith Amaquelin Boltagon) - The wife of Black Bolt with long red prehensile hair that can stretch.

Crystal (Crystallia Amaquelin) - The princess of the Inhuman Royal Family and sister of Medusa who can manipulate Earth, Air, Fire, and Water.

Gorgon (Gorgon Petragon) - An Inhuman with cattle-like hooves.

Karnak (Karnak Mander-Azur) - A member of the Royal Family with a fighting ability who can exploit an enemy's weakness.

Triton (Triton Mander Azur) - An Inhuman with an aquatic fish-like appearance and a fin on his head.

Lockjaw - An Inhuman Dog with the power of teleportation.

Auran - A member of the Royal Guard with a regenerative healing factor. Portrayed by Sonya Balmores.[137]

Iridia - In this show, Iridia still had her butterfly wings and is depicted as the daughter of Loyolis and Paripan and the brother of Bronaja.

Eldrac - An Inhuman who becomes part of a wall that can teleport anyone to the place they want to go.

Bronaja - A recently-emerged Inhuman who developed the ability to see into the future of anyone who touches him.

Duodon - An Inhuman whose projector-like eyes can project what events have happened. As he can't see with those eyes, he requires assistance with getting around.

Flora - A plant-manipulating Inhuman who became an agent for the Inhuman Royal Guard that is loyal to Maximus.

Locus - An Inhuman who became an agent of the Royal Guard that is loyal Maximus and has echolocation ability. She was later taken prisoner by Black Bolt and Maximus in order to find Gorgon and Triton. Before dying of her fatal gunshot wound caused by one of the cannibas farmers, she tells Black Bolt and Medusa that Crystal is on Oahu and to make some changes to Attilan when they returns.

Loyolis - An Inhuman and the father of Bronaja and Iridia who has reptilian hands.

Sakas - An acid-spitting Inhuman who became an agent for the Inhuman Royal Guard that is loyal to Maximus. He was accidentally killed in an explosion caused by Mordis at Evan Declun's facility.

Sammy - A recently-transformed Inhuman with a heat touch that befriended Black Bolt at the Oahu Corrections Facility.

The TV series Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

Abby - A young Inhuman girl in the year 2091 with density manipulation. After being trained by Jemma Simmons and defeating Basha's champion in the Lighthouse's arena called the Crater, Abby was sold to Basha by Kasius.

Alisha Whitley - An Inhuman loyal to Jiaying who has the ability to create multiple clones of herself with a hive mind to control each one. She was defeated by Lincoln Campbell and Melinda May. Alisha was seen cooperating with S.H.I.E.L.D. in Season 3. One of her clones was killed by Lash. While swayed to Hive's side, Alisha is later killed by a Kree Reaper.

Ben - An Inhuman telepath in the year 2091. After helping Daisy Johnson and Jemma Simmons cover up some information that he found out, Kasius had Sinara kill Ben.

Daisy "Skye" Johnson/Quake - Jiaying's daughter and a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent who has the power to manipulate vibration following her exposure to the Terrigen mists. She is able to tap into the vibrational energy of everything around her.

Deathlok

Elena "Yo-Yo" Rodriguez - A young Colombian Inhuman who can move at fast speeds while also returning from where she started. Believing her new power to be a gift from God, uses her gift to fight corrupt elements within the Colombian political system, including the National Police of Colombia. This briefly put her into conflict with S.H.I.E.L.D.. As they saw that Rodriguez was using her powers for good, they recruited her into the Secret Warriors.

Ethan Johnston - A young Inhuman who was kidnapped and eventually killed by Dr. List and his fellow HYDRA scientists after many hours of experimentation.

Flint - An Inhuman living on the Lighthouse in the year 2091. After undergoing Terrigenesis, Flint develops geokinesis.

Ghostrider

Gravitron

Gordon - Gordon was an eyeless Inhuman and the right-hand man of Jiaying. He has the ability to teleport himself from one area to another. Aside from himself, Gordon can also teleport others so long as he is making direct contact with them. When teleporting, Gordon can generate fields of reflective blue energy which are impervious to gunfire. His main mission was to protect and transport the rest of the Inhuman population in and out of their settlement Afterlife. He supported Jiaying's decision to trick their own people into starting a war against S.H.I.E.L.D. where they attacked the Iliad. Gordon was killed in a battle by Leo Fitz during Gordon's conflict with him, Alphonso Mackenzie, and Phil Coulson.

Jiaying - Daisy "Skye" Johnson's mother and Calvin Zabo's wife who helped new Inhumans manage their new found powers and appearances. She had the power of longevity and a healing factor (both required draining the life force of others) which was realized by aging HYDRA member Daniel Whitehall, who vivisected and experimented on her living body to obtain the secret to eternal youth. Her husband managed to put her back together, although a number of scars remained. However, this also destroyed her sense of morals. At the end of Season 2, she manipulated the Inhumans into a war with S.H.I.E.L.D., perceiving the latter as a threat. She was eventually killed by Calvin who snapped her back while she was attempting to murder her daughter.

Joey Gutierrez - An Inhuman with the ability to melt any metallic object in a range of three meters around him, especially by touching them. The melting effect does not only affect the item he is touching, but also other items in a close range. His power tends to cause explosions when touching vehicles, as the fuel explodes due to the decompression.

Lash/Andrew Garner - An Inhuman tracking other Inhumans who underwent Terregenesis from Jiaying's booby trapped ledger. Lash's transformation changed him physically, turning him into a terrifying blue-skinned beast with a long mane growing from his scalp down to his upper back. He was later killed by Hellfire after saving Daisy Johnson from Hive.

Lincoln Campbell/Sparkplug - Lincoln Campbell is an Inhuman doctor who previously worked in Afterlife as a transitioner. He had electricity manipulation powers after terrigenesis. He helped Skye understand the true extent of her transformation. Originally siding with Jiaying during the War against the Inhumans, he began to doubt her intentions seeing her kill innocent agents, and after learning the truth from Skye, helped S.H.I.E.L.D. defeat Jiaying. In the aftermath of the war, Campbell attempted to start a new peaceful life, but was forced to go into hiding when he was pursued by a murderous Inhuman named Lash and the ATCU. Lincoln Campbell later sacrifices his life to blow up the Quinjet that he and Hive were on outside of Earth's orbit.

Lori Henson - The wife of Shane Henson, Lori Henson was an Inhuman who lived in Afterlife before the War against the Inhumans began, becoming a friend of Alisha. When Gordon relocated the citizens of the hidden settlement during the War, she and her husband Shane returned to their apartment in Hollywood, California. Henson had the ability to generate fire from her arms as she did before she was killed by Lash.

Lucio - An Inhuman who worked with the National Police of Colombia. Lucio has the ability to trap people in a rigor mortis-like state by staring at them. As he was unable to control the power, Lucio was forced to wear sunglasses at all times. He was later abducted by HYDRA where Hive used his powers to sway him to his side. Lucio was later killed by Joey Gutierrez.

Michael - An Inhuman who resides at Afterlife. He was later evacuated from Afterlife during Jiaying's war on S.H.I.E.L.D.

Raina - A former member of Project Centipede who after the Terrigenesis became a thorn-covered Inhuman with claws and yellow eyes. She has also gained enhanced strength and durability. Her new form is apparently uncomfortable even for her as her insides feel malformed. She also seems to have some kind of precognition powers. She was eventually murdered by Jiaying after her precognitive visions allowed her to see Jiaying's plan to start a war with S.H.I.E.L.D.

Shane Henson - The husband of Lori Henson, Shane Henson was an Inhuman who lived in Afterlife and went into hiding. He possessed the ability to levitate a few inches above the ground. Shane was later killed by Lash.

Tucker Shockley - An elite member of the Watchdogs who underwent Terrigenesis when trying to see if Senator Ellen Nadeer was an Inhuman. His Terrigenesis caused him to explode and then reassemble his own molecules.

Vijay Nadeer - An Inhuman who is the brother of a senator named Ellen Nadeer who distrusts Inhumans and sees them as a threat to society. Following his first Terrigenesis, he had super-speed. After being shot by his sister and tossed off the helicopter into the water by the Watchdogs with her, Vijay underwent another Terrigenesis underwater.

Wilton - Doctor Wilton was an Inhuman called by Jiaying after she refused medical attention from S.H.I.E.L.D. following sustaining a gunshot wound when she was in negotiations with Robert Gonzales. While Skye, Lincoln Campbell, and Jiaying talked, Wilton removed the bullet fragments from Jiaying's shoulder and stitched her wound. Skye asked Doctor Wilton if Jiaying needed a blood donation, but Campbell started arguing again before Wilton could answer.

MCU Netflix

Matthew Murdock/Daredevil

Jessica Jones (Jewel)

Carl Lucas/Luke Cage (Power Man)

Danny Rand/Iron Fist

Frank Castle/The Punisher

MCU Movies

Steve Rogers/Captain America

Tony Stark/Iron Man

Pepper Potts/Rescue

Thor Odinson

Valkyrie

Korg

Meek

Bruce Banner/The Incredible Hulk

Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow

Clint Barton/Hawkeye

Pietro Maximoff/Quicksilver

Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch

The Vision

James Rhodes/War Machine (Iron Patriot)

Sam Wilson/Falcon

Bucky Barnes/The Winter Soldier (White Wolf)

T'Challa/Black Panther

Stephen Strange/Doctor Strange

Wong

Peter Parker/Spider-Man

Scott Lang/Ant-Man (Giant-Man)

Hope van Dyne/Wasp

Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel

Peter Quill/Star-Lord

Gamora

Drax the Destroyer

Rocket Raccoon

(Teenage) Groot

Mantis

Nebula

Goose the Cat

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The DCEU character is basically just Superman and so stomps

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@gxrevs06 said:

MCU murders. Clark's strength and speed won't be enough here. The MCU has far more versatility and diverse set of powers

@gxrevs06 said:

MCU murders. Clark's strength and speed won't be enough here. The MCU has far more versatility and diverse set of powers

@gxrevs06 said:

Aquaman's telepathy, Enchantress mindrape ( if u classify her as hero, who actually had to be controlled by Amanda ), Superman's statue mode combat and reaction speed, Barry's time travelling ( if u count BvS feat ), Diana's autoobliterating shields, Enchantress instant teleportation etc. U think MCU is more versatile ?

Wanda has defences against TP given that she is telepath herself.

Superman's statue hax is virtually cancelled out by Quicksilver. Clark might be faster but not by a significant degree

Barry has never used time travelling in combat. His present self has never even shown the ability. It is not applicable here

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#44  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Honestly, MCU character stomps.

LS Movement speed and Hypersonic+ Reactions (CM, Inhumans)

TK that can literally Crush Thanos (Whose Durability is far in excess of any other MCU Hero, including Thor and Hulk)

Mind-Control Resistance (multiple characters)

Absorbs Kinetic Energy and can Redirect it (BP), and other types of energy too (Iron Man w/ Thor)

TP + Bifrost

Gravity-Control

I don't see a DCEU comp HERO winning here. They don't have the power-stacks yet. Not with all of the Canon TV shows.

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So basically Superman who knows how to fight while statues everyone on MCU ?

And big lol at Quicksilver cancelling statue ...

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Quicksilver is at best Mach 1 by feats, statements and calcs. He isn't as fast as Clark or Flash.

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#47 death4bunnies  Moderator

@jashugan said:

Quicksilver is at best Mach 1 by feats, statements and calcs. He isn't as fast as Clark or Flash.

How about Yo-yo.

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@death4bunnies: All I can see from the bottom gif is that said energy blast is likely not even supersonic while I don't know how fast anything is in the former because there's no reference to anything in that gif.

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#49  Edited By ThEBeStOfTheBeST

@death4bunnies: Yo Yo herself admitted that she isn't faster than bullets though, I'd say she's really close to supersonic. But I think her speed combined with QS should allow them to perceive Superman, and it's not like Superman goes around statueing people all day but he does use his speed on a consistent basis (on par with, if not better than his New 52 and Rebirth counterpart, consistency-wise) and with Flash's speed (s t a t u e f o r c e 101) he should be faster than the composite MCU character by a decent margin coz y'know the Kryptonians speed + Flash's and Wonder Woman's speed all combined together is a force to be reckoned with.

OT: MCU wins in a hell of a fight. One is physically superior and should be faster with somewhat decent hax (teleportation + adaption ability and whatnot) and a one shot weapon, and the other is physically comparable with a shit load of hax and a decent speed as well as a debatable one-shot weapon.

However, the second round is a massive stomp in favor of the MCU. All it takes a snap.

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MCU Curbstomps effortlessly