Composite HST vs Silver Surfer

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random encounter, who wins?

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Composite is too haxed.

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Composite is FAR to haxed to lose to surfur

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Lol. Surfer can resist reality warping and has tp. Honestly that's like 85% of hst hax in a nutshell. Things like intang he can get around as well, etc etc. He stomps.

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He has the speed, strength, dc, durability, and hax resistance advantages...

If they go hand to hand, he one shot punches them. if they go for ranged blasts, he nukes them, or drains them dry. if they try to out hax him, he turns them into a black hole, or traps them in his board.

What exactly do they beat him in bar versatility, which is irrelevant when what he does have is at worst, thousands of times better.

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Composite stomp .

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Going with SS

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SS in a good fight, i wouldnt say its a stomp tho. Composite is hard to put down.

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Surfer should win.

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Surfer stomps

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Surfer, although the composite here has a lot of hax that prevent death so it will take a bit.

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Surfer.

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Surfer

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#14  Edited By reaverlation

HST character

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Surfer defeats God cable and took cables godly power away in the process.

Surfer stomps

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Surfer accidentally one shots

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Surfer no diff

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Lol @ Surfer winning let alone oneshotting. This is absolutely ridiculous.

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At first I thought HST, but Streak failed to convince me so Surfer, pretty easily I might add

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Yhwach solos amirite?

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#23 Gaoron  Online

Non-jobbing Surfer low diffs. He has every stat advantage over any HST character and his hax is a lot more potent than even composite HST for example TP.

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@lan_fan said:

Yhwach solos amirite?

No one can beat Yhwach, He is literallyunstoppable.

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#25  Edited By Djibbo__

How is composite supposed to keep up with him? He’s MFTL+

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@lan_fan said:

Yhwach solos amirite?

No one can beat Yhwach, He is literallyunstoppable.

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@lan_fan said:

Yhwach solos amirite?

No one can beat Yhwach, He is literallyunstoppable.

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Surfer dies

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@kevd4wg said:

At first I thought HST, but Streak failed to convince me so Surfer, pretty easily I might add

We never even had the debate so...

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HST

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silver surfer out stats the hst and could replicate most of the characters hax. surfer should win.

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hst character one-shot and curbstomps

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#33  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

Who is the strongest character from Bleach, Naruto and One Piece and what buster tier are they? I haven't read the mangas or watch the anime. They're gonna need alot of hax if they want to take SS down.

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#34  Edited By Rabii99

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Lol @ Surfer winning let alone oneshotting. This is absolutely ridiculous.

This. The Almighty+the Miracle combo alone is hard if not impossible for SS to get around much less intangibility and 4 invisible duplicates of the composite HST that can use the same shit ton of hax.

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@takenstew22: kaguya, Yhwach, naruto sasuke. kaguya could be assumed to be planet level since she created and would destroy a dimension with at the very least a planet in it(it also had a sun and could fit a moon as well)

some notable hax is multiple forms of reality warping, multiple forms of precognition, multiple forms of time manipulation, high level healing factor, tp, soul absorption/ manipulation, near immunity to blunt force, intangiblity, and control of elements. that's just off the top of my head

most of it can replicated by surfer.

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#36 takenstew22  Moderator

@takenstew22: kaguya, Yhwach, naruto sasuke. kaguya could be assumed to be planet level since she created and would destroy a dimension with at the very least a planet in it(it also had a sun and could fit a moon as well)

some notable hax is multiple forms of reality warping, multiple forms of precognition, multiple forms of time manipulation, high level healing factor, tp, soul absorption/ manipulation, near immunity to blunt force, intangiblity, and control of elements. that's just off the top of my head

most of it can replicated by surfer.

Thx.

And yes, Surfer does have feats that can replicate those.

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SS wins.

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Gotta love how people know so little about surfer they think invisibility will be a problem for him

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#39 takenstew22  Moderator

@kevd4wg said:

Gotta love how people know so little about surfer they think invisibility will be a problem for him

Indeed. His cosmic awareness is so impressive he could sense almost anything.

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Yhwach rewrites marvel comics through the future and makes surfer powerless.

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#43  Edited By Rabii99

@takenstew22 said:

Who is the strongest character from Bleach, Naruto and One Piece and what buster tier are they? I haven't read the mangas or watch the anime. They're gonna need alot of hax if they want to take SS down.

This is some of the hax the HST has:

The Almighty:

The Almighty grants Yhwach the ability to know about everything he sees, for all powers he sees to take his side, to be immune to all powers he knows and not able to be defeated by such powers.And that is not all as he is able to see the future, the ability to steal powers and be able to give his Reiatsu to others.

The Almighty receives a new ability after Yhwach absorbs the Soul King that not only allows him to see every and all possible futures it allows him to change the futures. Like grains of sands, Yhwach can see all possible futures and select whichever he wishes to happen.And if this is not pleasing enough for him, Yhwach can rewrite futures to better suit him and his needs.

A - The Anti-Thesis:

A - The Anti-Thesis is Uryū's Schrift and it is one of the most powerful abilities in Bleach despite being so simple. The ability allows Uryū to switch anything that has already happened among two selected targets. Such as switching the damage done to himself with Haschwalth, thus leaving Haschwalth with his injuries and Uryū with Haschwalth's injuries.

B - The Balance:

B - The Balance is Haschwalth's Schrift that allows him to manipulate the fortune and misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence, and he says himself; the manipulation in order to maintain the balance of fortune in the world. Furthermore, he can redirect all misfortune that befalls him onto his Freund Schild. On top of this, any misfortune that befalls the Freund Schild can be reapplied elsewhere.

C - The Compulsory:

C - The Compulsory is Pernida's Schrift enables it to send out its nerves and latch onto opponents' nerves, forcibly manipulating them and only ending its control of the opponent if the afflicted areas are torn off.

D - The Death Dealing:

D - The Death Dealing is Askin's Schrift which grants him the precise control over any and all'Lethal Doses' within his range. He alters the dosage of any substance he ingests or tanks, manipulating the 'poison' and either granting himself complete immunity within a single minute or lowering an opponent's resistance to kill or incap them. Thanks to this ability, Askin is actually intuited to be the most unkillable person amongst the Quincy via reflexive immunity-raising, being selected by Yhwach specifically for his inability to die, and himself cursing his inability to die easily.

E - The Explode:

E - The Explode is Bambietta's Schrift which gives her the ability to turn anything at all that she fires her Reishi into, into a bomb.She has what is essentially an unlimited supply of bombs, therefore, turns whatever she strikes with her bullets of Reishi into her own personal armory.

F - The Fear:

F - The Fear is Äs Nödt's Schrift which allows him to instill fear in others through his Heilig Pfeil, which are shaped like thorns. It searches through the memories of the subject to find any trace of fear they may have ever had in their life to act upon it, so even if they currently have no fear, if their past does they will be affected. From there, everything the target does from then on will be hindered by their own thoughts and fear of actions. It's potent enough to kill targets just out of fear.The fear is applied to it's target by contact thus wounding the opponent is not needed and it's capable of bypassing objects to reach it's target.

J - The Jail:

J - The Jail is Quilge's Schrift that enables him to create a prison of Reishi that is inescapable to anyone at all except for Quincy. It is implied heavily that such a prison will hold whomever it targets until death occurs. Further, it also is capable of outright sealing off dimensional travel, closing the dimension, used by Garganta to travel between worlds, on both sides. To use it, Quilge launches a blast of Reishiwhich creates a large cage that is impervious to any and all harm and escape attempts, surviving the full brunt of Ichigo's fury with ease.

L-The Love:

L - The Love is PePe's Schrift that allows him to control those he hits with his "Love Kiss" by making them fall so madly in love with him that they will obey every command he gives them.

M-The Miracle:

M - The Miracle is Gerard's innate power to turn any and all damage, lethal included, into size and strength. Sounds simple, but ridiculously powerful.

S-The Superstar:

S - The Superstar is Mask De Masculine's Schrift. It allows him to gain might from the cheers of a crowd, and alongside his partner James, he has an undying source of unending cheers that will continually empower him. Mask's physicals are amped, healing is boosted, and it enables him to achieve his most powerful form after hearing enough cheering.

V - The Visionary:

V - The Visionary is Gremmy's Schrift which is simplistic to explain at base, but exceptionally broad and insanely powerful: anything he imagines turns into reality. A reality warper, Gremmy's power is the most potent showcased in the entirety of Bleach, and can create many varied effects.

W - The Wind:

W - The Wind is Nianzol's Schrift and is most easily explained as being able to physically bend away the space of any attack he perceives to be as coming from an opponent. This means that it is impossible to assault him directly, even with sneak attacks.

X - The X-Axis:

X - The X-Axis is Lille's Schrift which comes with 3 forms that further unlock his full power.

Y - The Yourself:

Y - The Yourself are the Schrift of Royd and Loyd which are basic in principle, exceptionally powerful in practice. They are the ability to mimic not just the appearance of others, but for Royd, to also attain their memories and knowledge whereas Loyd can fully mimic their entire arsenal of abilities, both physical or otherwise.

Z - The Zombie:

Z - The Zombie is Giselle's Schrift which enables her to turn anyone splashed with her blood into a corpse that obeys her every command. Further, she can heal others with her ability by manipulating dead bodies and reforming them, as well as healing via blood and turning 'fresh' corpses into more powerful, intelligent zombies. Mayuri Kurotsuchi provides a good run-down here on the limitations of her ability.

Σ - The Viability:

Σ - The Viability is Shaz's Schrift which grants him the ability to regenerate his body with nearby Reishi, thus granting him near immortality in the Bleachverse:

He can absorb Reishi from his surroundings and repair his own body. In other words, he has regeneration powers that surpass those of a Vollständig or Hollow.

Whenever Shaz lost parts of his body during fights, parts created by Gremmy’s imagination would regenerate as parts created by Reishi. In the end, all imagined parts were replaced by physical body, allowing him to escape Gremmy’s control.

Limbo Hengoku

This eye technique allows the user to project 4 duplicates of himself into the Limbo realm, an adjacent invisible world. The duplicates are impossible to detect, perceive or sense without Rinnegan or Six Paths Sage mode. Each duplicate has the same abilities as the real user. This is by far the strongest hax in this matchup because it can utilize all the other hax while being invisible, undetectable and unable to be harmed by physical attacks.

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Amenominaka

With her third eye, Kaguya changes the world around herself and everyone around her within a certain range into one of her dimensions. As it occurs instantly, enemies can be caught completely off guard.

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Six paths of the Rinnegan

Deva Path:

Asura Path:

This path has the ability to summon mechanized armor and technological machinery. shifts his arms into multiple missiles , chainsaw tail, and heat seeking missiles.

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Naraka Path:

This allows the user to summon the King of Hell.

Animal Path:

The Animal Path has the ability to summon giant creatures to aid Nagato in combat.

This includes:

  • Crab,
  • Chameleon that can turn invisible,
  • Multi-headed Dog that can split it’s body
  • Bird
  • Ox
  • Centipede
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Preta Path:

Allows the user to absorb and essentially negate all forms of Ninjutsu.

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Human Path:

This path has the ability to read minds and remove souls.

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The Outer Path - Gedo Mazo:

Truth Seeking balls

Truth-Seeking Balls are hand-sized orbs of black chakra that users can use to alter its shape to serve for a variety of purposes. Truth-Seeking Balls are composed of all five basic natures, in a way similar to yet surpassing kekkei genkai and kekkei tōta.

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Kamui

Kamui is a space-time dojutsu ability that allows the user to be completely intangible by his body existing in a different dimension. It also allows the user to transfer people or body parts to the Kamui dimension ignoring durability.

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Amenotjikara

Using this ability, Sasuke can replace objects/persons including himself with other objects/people in a certain range or even teleport them where he wants:

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Izanagi/Creation of all things:

Izanagi is a technique that allows the user to turn imagination to reality at the cost of losing an eye. The sage of six paths uses the original ability, creation of all things which doesn't have that downside. So even if Surfer manages to get around all the other hax and crazy regen that the composite has, the latter would just use this and come back in full health.

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@ourmanuel: I know what his ability is. you must be joking.

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surfer puts them in a time-loop

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#46 takenstew22  Moderator

@rabii99: Thx for all that. I'll read later I'm currently busy.

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I dunno, HST has a loooot of hax especially if we are considering the games like Storm 4 and Jump Force.

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#49  Edited By Vulkanian

^ Can’t tell if serious or not.

OT: They aren’t doing anything to someone that surfs through stars and can hang out inside of black holes without a problem.

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@yasindermann: HST refers to the big 3( holy shounen trinity), bleach, naruto and one piece. Jojo isnt part of the HST. Btw i've meaning to watch jojo for a long time, to watch "diamond is unbreakable" do I need to watch the previous parts???