Composite dark Schneider vs ui goku, jiren and broly

@zane240: Darsh is wanked on comicvine other battle forums accepted that he cannot compete with DBS characters,but comicvine according to them he can even beat zeno has infinite speed and thinks dispel bound can be broken only if you do infinite amount of attack every second,you can add zeno if you want and they will still say darsh wins.

Base Goku could take this battle alone.

Either of them Solo, MUI Mixed with his Counterpart in Manga Hakais Darsh out of existence and oustats him physically as well.

Even Beerus has better chance let alone MUI Goku.

But three of the GoD+ tier beings? Nope it's a stomp in DB's favour.

Boi if you don't get yo STUPID ass lmfao. This is obviously spite bro. FOH Schneider bodies 0 diff.

Offensive insults. Please Bring justice, sirs. @god_spawn@jedixman@juiceboks@rogueshadow@the_red_viper@vance_astro

@timetrapper: No one can be trusted here, especially those who admittedly trolled and accused me that I had trolled, something I will never do in this site. I never attempted to troll and you can say whatever you want if you don’t believe. I really think that has Goku can do it.

@zane240: Darsh is wanked on comicvine other battle forums accepted that he cannot compete with DBS characters,but comicvine according to them he can even beat zeno has infinite speed and thinks dispel bound can be broken only if you do infinite amount of attack every second,you can add zeno if you want and they will still say darsh wins.

Nah, DB is more wanked on CV, then Bastard!! People can´t accept their favorite can´t win.

And lol at "other battle forums", like this:

http://animevice.boards.net/thread/14163/beerus-toppo-dark-schneider-uriel

Lol at macrocosm universe 7. People forget, that the snakepath is 1 million kilometers long and in the same scan, the path is only half as long as universe 7. They shouldn´t use inconsistent claims, if they can´t argure against the same.

Zeno hasn´t infinite speed, he can´t even react to the tournament. Also Beerus said, he isn´t a fighter.

Dispel Bound can probably be broken, but regenerate on the same time. You need a higher destruction feat, then Hakai to erase someone on 3 planes of existence. Otherwise Darsh can use Bloodstone, and if Beerus or Goko hakais him, they hakais herself.

On Topic. Darsh blinks.

@caocao: Not as much as bastard,bleach and Naruto

They aren´t much Bastard!! fans on this side. I agreed that Naruto, Bleach, Dragonball and Fairy Tail are here very hard wanked in the last time.

I can show you at least 5 battle forums than proved darsh doesn't hold a candle to dbs

And i can show you a poll, that Natsu beats Elder God Demonbane. What i am trying to said. It doesen´t matter, what people on other forums said, or he said. On CV, you need feats or comprehensibly statements. On batteforums like Narutoforums, Milleniumforums, etc. you need Fancalcs. Headcanon, they aren´t serious. Do you read Bastard!!?

Zeno isn't a fighter has nothing to do with this darsh is not universal or even multiversal to damage zeno

I will agree, that it has nothing to do with it. It was more, the point, that he hasn´t shown speedfeats, or statements neither that put him on a infinite scala. He can destroy universes, on a multi-universal range. Multiversal is to high, even for Zeno. And don´t worry, i don´t think Darsh is Universal or Multiversal, either. But he doesen´t need it.

Darsh doesn't have speed feat to keep up with team, DB was destroyed multiple time with a powerful attack.

He blitzed Konron, who blitzed Seraphs. Seraphs are faster then light is the first point:

Also the angels need 4 years to reach the earth from the Black Hole. That was official 28.000 lightyears, which put them in base on ca. 7000x lightspeed.

You need Combatspeed?

You said, DB was destroyed with powerfull attacks. Well, that´s right. And then, you have one second, before the dispel bound regenerate complete. Also, what happend if they break DB? Darsh his Body and Soul was erased trough Judas Pain, but he still came back. Hakai? Won´t work? Every other powerfull attack? Won´t work, because they are all below Hakai. Darsh isn´t a combatfighter, but he is a powerfull wizard. His spells are more then enough and as i said: Bloodstone for example. Every damage he takes, his enemy takes to. And none of them has a regeneration on Darsh his niveau. So they destroy Darsh his whole body, then they take the same fate as him. Darsh regenerates back, they don´t. Also someone said it was impressiv, that Broly break trough reality. All happend in Bastard!! too:

Read the op he said can they take down darsh there is nothing of killing him.

I can make an op, that Natsu solos DB via Time-Space-Burning, but we all know that isn´t true.

Dude, i respect your oppinion, i realy do. It is nothing against you, but this board has many problems with some people from the Dragonball Fanbase. If you said, Bastard!! is wanked, ok. You can give me some explainations?

And sorry for my bad english, it isn´t really my native language.

@caocao: Not as much as bastard,bleach and Naruto

I can show you at least 5 battle forums than proved darsh doesn't hold a candle to dbs

Zeno isn't a fighter has nothing to do with this darsh is not universal or even multiversal to damage zeno

Darsh doesn't have speed feat to keep up with team, DB was destroyed multiple time with a powerful attack.

Read the op he said can they take down darsh there is nothing of killing him.

@caocao: Proving point and making baseless assumption are two different things every other forum proved it with feat and scans from the manga

Well, baseless assumption is the most used way from people who didn´t read Bastard!! We also used scans and statements, so nothing wrong.

If he wants to defeat zeno then he needs to, but let's not get there

He need it, if Zeno shows his durability feats.

Again to reach that distance in 4 years is pretty low level speed, Frieza's spaceship crossed the milky way galaxy in less than a minute and jiren is faster than that.

If freezer faster then his ship, why he used it? Also Jiren doesen´t shown that he is faster then Frieza his spaceship, or did i forget something?

The only travelfeat we have was Whis with Beerus, but even here they use an object (Whis his staff) to move with this speed through the galaxy.

That combat speed feat is given by a character who can't even see base darsch so how can he keep up with Majin D.S, in other words fodder characters giving speed feat for someone greater than their calliber is not a speed feat.

I didn´t know where you get that, but people said that if they means the statement from Ninja Gara. The same Gara who has a lightspeedattack. But, ok, he is fodder compared to Darsh and die Seraphs, i will agreed. The problem is, this statement in the scan above isn´t from Gara. It ist from the Seraph Raphael. You talk about this scan:

So yeah, the Combatspeed between Darsh and Uriel is far higher then everything in Dragonball therefore, unless you have something to shown.

Hmm... it is good, i post this scan. They are fast enought, that even the Hell lords (Equal to the seraphs) thinks that match is over, because the fight at this speed. Not infinite, but higher then before.

You need to read that part again the jewel was erasing darsh from existence cause it's power reached it's maximum level he was never erased from existence he tanked that coming back from existence and tanking EE are two different parts same as frieza tanked hakai.

I did and have to disagree. But, ok. Lets going with this point in a "what if situation", there is no way for Hakai to erase something on a higher plane then 2. Unless it happend before, but i never see it in Dragonball:

Also Hakai can´t even erase immortal (Statet by Beerus) beings and Darsh is immortal.

Bloodstone only worked on a 160x Galaxy buster also DB characters tanked attacks that are way more powerful then them and still survived

Where are you have 160x Galaxy buster? Uriel becames two times a power up. 120 x 120, therefore he was already a galaxy buster, als judas pain was statet too. Where DB charakters tanked attacks on the same level? Also it is Hax, and DB Charas doesen´t shown this kind of Hax resistence.

Broly breaking dimensions is still way more impressive cause in bastard Uriel star level attack was able to shatter the dimensions walls of hell also when D.S and Uriel were fighting the dimensional walls between Earth and hell was very weak which was stated in the manga.

Doesen´t change the fact, that the power of both affectet the abyss, which was 28.000 lightyears away. Also if we going with the star-level attacks, where are Broly his star level attacks, or above? Boo and Gotenks therefore can scream a hole in the dimension, so it wasn´t a big deal. The dimensions aren´t even destroyed, since Broly and Gogeta came back to the first.

@caocao: you say you use scans and statements but using fancalc for speed feat

No fancalc, since the the numbers of the lightyears and the timeframe exist in the Manga. A fancalc is more, if people takes data from our universe and use them in the fictional verse, or uses panelcalcs. For example the DB Verse is 1:1 with our universe. Than they make calcs with no-canon numbers, or without basic statements like "lightspeed".Or the take a panel from planet to planet und use a unknown timeframe, a unkown difference, etc. That is fancalc. But Dragonball at this point isn´t that worse then Wanky Tail.

I said frieza's spaceship is faster not him atleast read first also jiren is faster than spaceships stated in the manga by dyspo he said spaceship and we all know how fast spaceships in dragon Ball are so don't turn words saying that frieza's spaceship is faster.

That´s not enough to prove that Jiren is faster. You came with the claim that Freezer his ship moves through the milky way in a short moment (Probably that was even statet, i don´t remember).

To bad, the universe in Dragonball is far smaller then our universe:

One million km snake way, that doesen´t make the travelspeed in the milky way realy asweome. Also in the manga the said Jiren is like a brickwall. Does he has the dura of a wall now? I don´t think so.

Jokes asside. I don´t think the universe in DB is that small, but people use this offical picture for claims that Universe 7 is a macroversm. That is the same nonesense. I don´t think that Jiren and Goku has a shitty dura, but the point is there are more then enough inconsistent points, that shouldn´t claimed and downplayed other verses, because people don´t like facts.

Beerus can even travel without whis which is still faster than seraph.

Where?

Also show me combat speed of Raphael.

You know what scalling is? The same what you do, why Jiren faster should be then a ship. Raphael is a seraph, he is faster then light. He is equal to the other 4 archengels. Also he has the highest powerlevel if i remember right, but i can reread if you want.

Why are we bringing the hakai argument again when the op said to take him down also whats the difference between soul and spirit.

Why is it relevant, what the op said? What did the op said exactly? The difference between soul and spirit ist, that both states are officiall different in Bastard!! That is how eternal atoms work. You have to destroy every eternal atom on 3 planes of existence, to kill Darsh. The third plane of existence people have in Bastard!!, if they are angels. If Hakai can´t affect the third plane, then Darsh regenerate ever and ever again. Tell me how the Team put Darsh down, if they can´t past dispel bound.

And where are they located. Darsch isn't immortal he can still dye if you can't to see real immortal being go read saint seiya and sailor moon who can comeback even if their existence is erased.

Oh, you know there are many kinds of immortality right? Zamaus for example wasn´t truly immortal to, Charakters in Saint Seiya and Sailor Moon even aren´t. Also why you came with Saint Seiya? Neither DB, nor Bastard!! plays on the same level.

Also Darsh came back, after Body and Soul was erased via Judas Pain. Hakai don´t work different, it "destroy". But, where is the third plane?

He was multiplying his power. Above mentioned characters are universal level they can easily tank their own attacked if it gets reflected. But the point is can he active it before getting blitized.

Yeah, if they have shown that the dura is on the same level, then their power. Goku for example was nearly killed by a laser pistol. Do you tell me, that was a universal level gun? Darsh after his Helltrip in Base already has nearly 7000x LS. Show me where they can blitzed him. If you don´t have scans, i accept even good statements from the franchise.

Also, if Darsh getting blitzed. What happend? First, they have to break through Dispel Bound. That need a powerfull force, but i see they have the power to break all of them. Then they have one moment to attack/erase him on 3 planes of existence. And for the point that Darsh is to slow to keep up with the team (Lowball) Bloodstone is enough.

Beerus and Goku affected the whole universe, toppo's hakai warped the the world of void.

And now? Did they destroy a galaxy? Show me.

Are you saying that broly is not star level see this was the thing I was taking about if anyother characters would have done this it would have been a big deal but since it is dragon Ball let's downplay it,c mon man that guy literally stomped two ssblues now don't say ssb is not star level. T

Nope, i only going the same way, that you goes. Downplay. I would say, he could destroy a star, but what we need is to make clear which feats, statements and estimates we need. Dragonball is far more inconsistent then Bastard!!, so why i should accept hyperbole, if they don´t accept feats and statements from Bastard!!?

hey did destroy the dimensions you can see it yourself. The dimension that boo and Goten destroyed was only planet size even base Vegeta was able to blow it up.

Yeah, so explain me why the Dimension with the Planet, where they fight first, still exist. They broke through more dimensions, there is no point to prove it. He break through Dimensions, like Darsh and Uriel did.

I respect your oppinion, but insult me that i am lowball DB, or wanking Bastard!!. Hate the Mangaka, who made this failures, not the user here. Or find some inconsistent in Bastard!!.

I didn´t see how the Team put Darsh down, even if we use the "Team blitzes Darsh". Of course they are phyiscal far stronger, Darsh isn´t a fighter at this point. He is a powerfull, wizard who is hard to kill. Blitzing Darsh is no option. Destroy Darsh is no option. You have to break DB and contemporary destroy his infinite atoms on 3 planes of existence. The team can be 1000 times stronger, or faster. They cam´t put him down. Darsh still can uses his Curse spells and no: It doesen´t matter if this team has a better dura then Darsh, because they don´t tank his own attacks via Bloodstone. They tank the same damage. If cut Darsh in two pieces, the user will cut in two pieces. If they erases him from existence, they erases himself. Why? Because the spell cursed the space, a 3-D Construct. It doesen´t matter how high the dura is, unless you are a higherdimensional or abstract being. Then you can be not affectet. That is Hax, not that what we see in Dragonball, which shown limits on other, stronger enemys.

Also one question: Why is your other account banned. You didn´t nothing wrong here? o.O

Either of them Solo, MUI Mixed with his Counterpart in Manga Hakais Darsh out of existence and oustats him physically as well.

Also goku can also hakai darsh by erasing his physical body and soul from existent.