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#1 Edited by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  • Beerus is allowed Movie,DBS and game feats
  • Schneider is composite
  • Both Sides Bloodlusted
  • No Prep
  • No Morals
  • Win by K.O/Death

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#2 Posted by TheDeathstar (4057 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus, superior in stats and has Hakai which would potentially erase Darsh from existence.

Also, game Beerus is too OP and would make it a mismatch.

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#3 Posted by benoma (202 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark schneider stomps

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#4 Posted by Jooosh1996 (2693 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus, superior in stats and has Hakai which would potentially erase Darsh from existence.

Also, game Beerus is too OP and would make it a mismatch.

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#5 Posted by Batuxx28 (264 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus

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#6 Posted by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

Composite Beerus is on the same level as Xeno Goku.

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#7 Posted by Eeef (2039 posts) - - Show Bio

DS curbs.

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#8 Edited by GokuGOAT (100 posts) - - Show Bio

I’ll go see DS feats and then look for game Beerus feats. I do believe Beerus said he could defeat Demigra easily. And Demigra is easily multiversal and Supreme Kai of time was to scared of Beerus getting angry.

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#9 Posted by Juggerman40 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus has no counter to Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence.

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#10 Posted by Prime-Okami (216 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus annihilates

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#11 Edited by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#12 Posted by Jman88933 (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Schneider should stomp.

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#13 Posted by cromulor (2098 posts) - - Show Bio

Game Beerus has statements about destroying galaxies but nothing ever shown to my knowledge.

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#14 Posted by ZaCrimsonWarudo (322 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: which is a huge downplay because game ssb goku destroyed a galaxy on panel and ssb is LEAGUES below beerus.

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#15 Posted by Lilbaby123 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark schneider gets mollywhoopt by Composite Beerus, wtf is going on here? who ever thinks Schneider stands a chance must be hating.

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#16 Posted by Lilbaby123 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

The speed and power different is so big that its impossible to make this debatable. I'm a Dark schneider fan and he usually dont catch L on the battle forum, but danm... composite Beerus is way out of his league.

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#17 Posted by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Dark Schneider should stomp.

Beerus, superior in stats and has Hakai which would potentially erase Darsh from existence.

Also, game Beerus is too OP and would make it a mismatch.

@cromulor said:

Game Beerus has statements about destroying galaxies but nothing ever shown to my knowledge.

@gokugoat said:

I’ll go see DS feats and then look for game Beerus feats. I do believe Beerus said he could defeat Demigra easily. And Demigra is easily multiversal and Supreme Kai of time was to scared of Beerus getting angry.

Cmon guys... can we have a debate instead of name dropping. It be instressting to read on why you guys think it wins it.

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#18 Posted by cromulor (2098 posts) - - Show Bio

@guleddos: I didn’t “name drop”. I brought up that I heard Beerus state in a video game once that he’s destroyed galaxies. I’m waiting for someone to debate the relevancy of that point or just concede it as evidence pointing towards a win. I don’t think @thedeathstar or @gokugoat were either considering both of them put out arguments also...

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#19 Posted by GokuGOAT (100 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: What do you mean? https://imgur.com/a/avH53ZE

And that’s just Xenoverse games. Beerus in the Heroes can rival Heroes UI Goku who is stronger than SSJ4 Xeno Goku. And DBS game Goku beat Xeno Goku with only SSB.

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#20 Posted by Lilbaby123 (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: It wasn't statement, Champa did destroy a Galaxy while playing around with Beerus at MFTL+

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#21 Edited by TheDeathstar (4057 posts) - - Show Bio

The video above already puts composite Beerus leagues above Darsh. Not only Beerus and Champa left their Galaxy in seconds but went through multiple Planets physically and destroyed them with blunt force and a blast from Champa destroyed entire Galaxy which traveled cross-galactic distance in matter of seconds.

And all of them casually just playing.

DBH Heroes Beerus is actually stronger than DBH Demigra and Xeno Goku who each would own Darsh as they have shown at least Multi-Universal feats.

TBH, DBS Beerus vs DS is already debatable and there was a thread already where Beerus won but this is a mismatch.

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#23 Posted by zgtfreak (1371 posts) - - Show Bio

DS haxes the entire DBverse to death.

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#24 Edited by benoma (202 posts) - - Show Bio

Schneider busted a galaxy to.They are even in dc but schneider has hax like time freeze beerus cant deal with

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#25 Posted by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

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#26 Edited by Juggerman40 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus has no way to put Darsh down Permanently he needs to attack Darsh on 3 different planes simultaneously something he can't do and Darsh can always freeze Beerus with his freezing spell that's absolute zero or once again he uses Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence. Darsh can also easily summon black holes to get rid of anything Beerus does.

@guleddos

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#27 Posted by God_Above (227 posts) - - Show Bio

Hakai

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#28 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

Confirmed that anyone saying DS has not read bastard and are getting all there facts from wiki’s. DS isn’t even universal

Composite beerus stomps

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#29 Posted by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus has no way to put Darsh down Permanently he needs to attack Darsh on 3 different planes simultaneously something he can't do and Darsh can always freeze Beerus with his freezing spell that's absolute zero or once again he uses Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence. Darsh can also easily summon black holes to get rid of anything Beerus does.

@guleddos

i dont usually participate in my own topics but w da hell, i may aswell kik a start.

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

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#30 Posted by Juggerman40 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

@guleddos said:
@juggerman40 said:

Beerus has no way to put Darsh down Permanently he needs to attack Darsh on 3 different planes simultaneously something he can't do and Darsh can always freeze Beerus with his freezing spell that's absolute zero or once again he uses Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence. Darsh can also easily summon black holes to get rid of anything Beerus does.

@guleddos

i dont usually participate in my own topics but w da hell, i may aswell kik a start.

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Any evidence of Hakai being Universal?

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

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#31 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Beerus can't really put him down while Darsh can take him out via a number of different spells.

Speed wise, even ignoring the "infinite attacks each instant" statement, he can still throw at least millions of attacks per second in his MDS form. Quantifiably speaking, that's greater combat speed than Beerus has shown in DBS...

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#32 Edited by Kingant27 (16895 posts) - - Show Bio

Raw power and Hakai, Beerus is leagues above however due to Hax putting DS down is not an easy if not even maybe possible here, so he could eventually win that way.

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

a lord of destruction destroy can only be do in a direct constant contact with the target if it's close in power or inferior since dark Schneider destroyed galaxies while beerus was only stated to have destroyed a galaxy once off-screen, feat wise dark schneider should have a fun battle tho he will murder beerus

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#34 Posted by Lan_Fan (12680 posts) - - Show Bio

Sure guys, they're gonna stomp each other.

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#35 Edited by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

@juggerman40 said:
@guleddos said:
@juggerman40 said:

Beerus has no way to put Darsh down Permanently he needs to attack Darsh on 3 different planes simultaneously something he can't do and Darsh can always freeze Beerus with his freezing spell that's absolute zero or once again he uses Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence. Darsh can also easily summon black holes to get rid of anything Beerus does.

@guleddos

i dont usually participate in my own topics but w da hell, i may aswell kik a start.

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Any evidence of Hakai being Universal?

Beerus himself is Universal ofc his existence erasure going to be on Universal scale, if Schneider was multi universal than yes it wouldn't work.

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

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Than i am afraid he won't stand a chance, millions of attacks per second can be perform by Microsecond timer, its not even light speed tbh.

Beerus went across solar systems in combat while fighting his brother champa and casually dodge energy blast that reach another Galaxy in mere second.

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#36 Posted by Juggerman40 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

@guleddos said:
@juggerman40 said:
@guleddos said:
@juggerman40 said:

Beerus has no way to put Darsh down Permanently he needs to attack Darsh on 3 different planes simultaneously something he can't do and Darsh can always freeze Beerus with his freezing spell that's absolute zero or once again he uses Judas Priest which manipulates the atoms and erases you from three different planes of existence. Darsh can also easily summon black holes to get rid of anything Beerus does.

@guleddos

i dont usually participate in my own topics but w da hell, i may aswell kik a start.

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

any feats for Schneider surviving existence erasure from universal+ character?

Any evidence of Hakai being Universal?

Beerus himself is Universal ofc his existence erasure going to be on Universal scale, if Schneider was multi universal than yes it wouldn't work.

Speed feats for schneider would be appreciated otherwise none of your hex you mention will mean anything if his complete statue

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Than i am afraid he won't stand a chance, millions of attacks per second can be perform by Microsecond timer, its not even light speed tbh.

Beerus went across solar systems in combat while fighting his brother champa and casually dodge energy blast that reach another Galaxy in mere second.

Beerus himself is Universal ofc his existence erasure going to be on Universal scale, if Schneider was multi universal than yes it wouldn't work.

Any evidence of his existence erasure being on a universal scale just because he may be universal in DC?

Than i am afraid he won't stand a chance, millions of attacks per second can be perform by Microsecond timer, its not even light speed tbh.

It's still above anything Beerus has done in combat speed.

Beerus went across solar systems in combat while fighting his brother champa and casually dodge energy blast that reach another Galaxy in mere second.

That's travel speed not combat speed look at that dark schneider scan that's combat speed. that galaxy doesn't even look like it's far away tbh.

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#37 Edited by DemonGod_PABLO (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

Bro regular DBS beerus has universal feats please explain how a composite beerus isn’t universal. Darsh cannot resist hakai as hakai destroys your physical, astral, and mental consciousness. The difference between galactic levels and universal is near infinite. Darsh has not even sniffed anyone as strong as beerus and he is wayyyyyy slower composite beerus

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#38 Posted by ZaCrimsonWarudo (322 posts) - - Show Bio

@juggerman40: Combat speed is always faster than travel speed...

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#39 Edited by guleddos (618 posts) - - Show Bio

@juggerman40:

Any evidence of his existence erasure being on a universal scale just because he may be universal in DC?

Hakai scales up with your stats the stronger you get the more powerful your Hakai becomes, take example from Freiza vs Toppo fight and Freiza who already had soul resistence was scared of Beerus threatening to erase him.

That's travel speed not combat speed look at that dark schneider scan that's combat speed. that galaxy doesn't even look like it's far away tbh.

i dont think you understand how travel/combat speed works and your probably trolling at this point

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#40 Edited by Juggerman40 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

@zacrimsonwarudo said:

@juggerman40: Combat speed is always faster than travel speed...

Prove it to me as shown in DBS Whis can travel faster than he can fight.

Hakai scales up with your stats the stronger you get the more powerful your Hakai becomes, take example from Freiza vs Toppo fight and Freiza who already had soul resistence was scared of Beerus threatening to erase him.

Hakai scales up with stats? so you believe Beerus has Universal punches too? what you just said doesn't prove Hakai is universal at all. Sidra didn't give that assassin full power hakai and Toppo held back he even quoted it:

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So far nothing suggests hakai is universal unless someone hakais a universe nothing suggests Beerus has universal hakai other than fan speculation.

i dont think you understand how travel/combat speed works and your probably trolling at this point

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I fail to understand why you think that < is combat speed. it's clearly shown that's travel speed and it's basic ftl speeds nothing suggests they flew trough solar systems and we can't quantify how far away that galaxy is given how the DB universe is smaller than our universes look at how how close saturn is to earth:

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And you're constantly ignoring all the hax Darsh possesses and will use in character which Beerus has no answer to.

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#41 Posted by ZaCrimsonWarudo (322 posts) - - Show Bio

@juggerman40: It is a rule of science. You punch and kick faster than you run. Try it now.

How does whis travel faster than he can fight? Show me

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#42 Posted by thelocust619 (7854 posts) - - Show Bio

DS obviously stomps. Matched the energy of the big bang twice, blitzed characters who were around 7000x ftl, and even Hakai doesn't have nearly the feats to handle Eternal Atoms (and anyone claiming so is outright lying or doesn't know what EA are).

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#43 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: No he didn’t match the energy of the Big Bang go read bastard again because you missed some details

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#44 Edited by thelocust619 (7854 posts) - - Show Bio

@demongod_pablo: I did. We're outright told the amount of energy he needed to shatter the barrier between our world and the realm within the Black Abyss very, very specifically so there is no way it can be misinterpereted...clearly, you need to reread it.

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#45 Edited by DemonGod_PABLO (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: no it takes Big Bang energy to break out of Alacatraz space not Hell they are two separate dimensions. He never matched Big Bang level energy once. Please go read bastard again

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#46 Edited by PhantomRant (1317 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619 said:

DS obviously stomps. Matched the energy of the big bang twice, blitzed characters who were around 7000x ftl, and even Hakai doesn't have nearly the feats to handle Eternal Atoms (and anyone claiming so is outright lying or doesn't know what EA are).

Actually there's no explicit proof that he or Uriel matched the energy needed to create the universe. The Dimensional Wall =/= God's sealed dimension, but it does take a massive shitton amount of power to break it so it could possibly be =/> Alcatraz-energy. No proof that it is though.

Also, Seraphs are not 7000x FTL....they're just unquantifiably faster than light. The Black Abyss speed calc is invalid.

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#47 Edited by thelocust619 (7854 posts) - - Show Bio

@phantomrant: @demongod_pablo: Pablo: Alcatraz and Hell are both within the Black Abyss...well, accessible through it, technically only the gate is within it. That's where Darsh was during the timeskip, what they specifically said it'd take to break Darsh free, what he escaped from on his own, and what he later broke into again while fighting Uriel. That's twice.

Phantom: He was in there, they said that's what it takes to get out, and he's out. That's pretty inarguable.

Why exactly is the speed invalid? We're blatently given a distance and a time, the rest isn't hard.

Both: You both should know better from the last time this all went down a year ago where u picked the wrong side and DS stomped anyway. You were both there.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/beerus-vs-dark-schneider-1868108/?page=1

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#48 Edited by DemonGod_PABLO (1584 posts) - - Show Bio

@thelocust619: you’re confusing multiple points. Darsh was trapped Alcatraz space which has god’s light and take the power of the Big Bang to breach. While Abigail and Lucifer thought DS was in Alacatraz, Satan had Connected Hell to Alacatraz space to get DS and drag him to hell. The Black Abyss is the center of the galaxy which essentially a black hole and the gate to hell but it does not require Big Bang level energy to get into hell.

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Explaining that Satan secretly connected Hell and Alcatraz to get DS

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Uriel explaining what the black abyss is and it has nothing to do with Alcatraz Space

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#49 Edited by thelocust619 (7854 posts) - - Show Bio

@demongod_pablo: I'm well aware, actually. I'll skip to the only thing u said that matters:

"but it does not require Big Bang level energy to get into hell."

You're right to a degree...It'd logically take MORE, because Hell is specifically said to be DEEPER than Alcatraz and by feats it was able to, for a time, hold a being that casually creates universes (which is ASTRONOMICALLY better than something that gets broken by one instant of big bang level forces). Here, we're pretty conservative so I generally stick to the low end Alcatraz claim. I'm not really enthusiastic about repeating arguements from a year ago. You can just read the thread. That u were in. And should know by now.

N I'm just saying, if I was gonna try to lowball I'd shoot for the "it was weakened" arguement (which only goes do far...a loose bolt isn't an open door). But that's me. You do you.

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#50 Posted by FaradaySloth (8458 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate.