Comic Vine Battle of the Week VOTING: Guardians of the Galaxy vs. X-Force

Obviously Wolverine solos

Wouldn't Domino kind of be a pain in the butt?

That's right bub.

Potentially, yes. Really hoping people don't overlook her "luck" powers.

@tparks The Guardians of the Galaxy are getting their respects on this week's Comicvine Battle article. Figured you'd be interested in their fight against the X-Force :P

You alone have made me hate and like Wolverine.

I think Archangel would be the deciding factor here. Razor sharp wings, a competent healing factor and durability, plus the toxins he fires from his wings.

I am controversial figure indeed :)

Domino's luck makes her headshot RR and Peter. With enough luck her bullets will go through Star-Lord shield.

Archangel, Warpath, Wolverine and X-23 take the three others.

Warpath takes Gamora

Archangel takes Groot

X-23 and Wolvi takes Drax

I think what it comes down too is there's more members of x force that could kill members of the gotg like drax could beat warpath but not wolverine gamora could maybe beat domino but not archangel

Going off of Bendis' take on the Guardians and Yost's X-Force, I have to pick X-Force here. While the Guardians are no slouches when it comes to a fight and they have some real heavy hitters, the resilience of this particular make up of the team is what I think really gives them the edge here. Mary Sue Wolverine aside, the rest of the team has proven time and again their ability to fight through the pain and get the job done. Throw in some adamantium, vibranium, luck, and a damned agile flyer and you have a team that can manage most of the advantages that the Guardians have.

The way I see it, the battle really comes down to leadership. Quill is good but he doesn't fully command the respect of his team which is fairly unmanageable. Wolverine has the respect of his team and where he goes, they follow. While it will be a close battle and Groot will surely survive as a splinter somewhere, X-Force takes this fight though it will be damn close.

Domino's powers aren't anywhere near that powerful also Warpath does not take Gamora in anyway.

I don't think many people here actually realize what some of the guardians are capable of, especially Groot.

@tparks Get in here!

How are they beating Drax or Groot?

I have been reading X-Titles since I was about 10 years old and I just started reading Guardians of the Galaxy recently so I can at least understand the team when the movie is released. Gamora and Drax are the two members of the GotG that I believe will be the deciding factor for the Guardians favor.

Dey can just adabantinium them to deth! groot get decapitatered

My thoughts exactly. They don't have an answer for Groot.

I'm going to put it this way. Drax is the guy who did this to Thanos:

I'm going with his team.

@powerplay: Drax was created to kill Thanos. That's why he can do that. That doesn't mean he's too much for the X-Force.

Then add in the explosive ordinance each Guardian is toting, flight and the fact that one clean hit from Groot, Drax or Gamora would seriously injure anyone here. Drax is clocked at 50 tons, Gamora at about 80 and god knows how strong Groot is.

Not saying the guardians win without a scratch, but I mean they have a lot more going for them.

@Hmm, Interesting battle. I would like to say that this would be tremendously close. My head is telling me that the sheer durability in the X team would make them almost impossible to take down. My heart is saying the Guardians got this. Wolverine is obviously the best there is at what he does, and the adamantium is going to be needed here, because Gamora is going to be the one in this fight that will be wolverine's bane. She isn't called the most dangerous woman in the galaxy for nothing! I think she can out-match wolverine in fighting ability enough that she can get an incapacitation.

Then we have Drax, who although has good showings, I think Warpath can take him. It would be close, But, firstly, Drax has been somewhat ignored in the current run so hasn't had too many showings recently, and then warpath is a total package with all stats supped up plus the knives!

Most of the rest of the teams are a bit of a miss-match of combatants, and are quite hard to say who could take on who. My personal feeling would be that Star-lord's element gun and oft played down tactical mind 'should' be enough to overcome Domino's bad luck effects, I would have thought that even a few odd things going wrong wouldn't take his mind off the task at hand too badly. X-23 is obviously pretty bad-bottom, and her VS Groot is the hardest one to call for me speed or strength is always a tough call. I have to call that a draw, I just can't decide if she could take out the tree or not.

Lastly is the easiest one for me. I think Rocket could take Archangel. Yes Angel is more durable, and yes he will be coming in at high speeds, but rocket is used to adjusting aim for fast moving targets and has more than enough firepower to 'BLAM, murder ya ' pretty quickly. All in all, this would be one hell of a fight to see, but I think the guardians could and would win this around 6.5/10 times.

What has Gamora done to let her out skill a top 5 combatant on Marvel Earth?

Exactly. I mean..how many of the X-Force members are surviving one of Raccoon's grenades?

That alone takes out everyone except Wolverine..and we've seen the damage Groot can inflict with his blows. I just don't see X-Force coming out on top here even taking into consideration Domino's powers.

@i_like_swords: I thought so. X Fans be disappointed, I'm going with guardians thanks the the insane stats advantage.

@juiceboks said:

@i_like_swords said:

@juiceboks said:

@i_like_swords said:

I don't think many people here actually realize what some of the guardians are capable of, especially Groot.

@tparks Get in here!

@cadencev2 said:

How are they beating Drax or Groot?

My thoughts exactly. They don't have an answer for Groot.

Then add in the explosive ordinance each Guardian is toting, flight and the fact that one clean hit from Groot, Drax or Gamora would seriously injure anyone here. Drax is clocked at 50 tons, Gamora at about 80 and god knows how strong Groot is.

Not saying the guardians win without a scratch, but I mean they have a lot more going for them.

Exactly. I mean..how many of the X-Force members are surviving one of Raccoon's grenades?

That alone takes out everyone except Wolverine..and we've seen the damage Groot can inflict with his blows. I just don't see X-Force coming out on top here even taking into consideration Domino's powers.

Context is key and I simply have to say it's not being acknowledged here. I sincerely doubt RR would use his "number six special" in this scenario, especially since Quasar and Adam Warlock aren't there to protect them from the blast. Does RR have some solid tech? Yes. Is he going to use that grenade in this scenario? It doesn't seem likely. If you think they win, that's perfectly fine, but come on, there's more feats which are actually applicable to the scenario :P

@k4tzm4n I didn't say nor did I imply that it would be his go to tactic here(it obviously wouldn't)..I was only trying to exemplify my point of the kind of gear the Guardians are packing. As you're probably noticing, they're getting underestimated.

Talking about the power they bring to the table and then showing one example of it seems to imply what they could do in the fight, but anyway, moving on. They currently have about a 20% lead, so, a couple of posts "underestimating" them doesn't seem to be having too much of an impact :P

I think Uncanny X-Force (Wolverine, Fantomex, Psylocke, Deadpool and Archangel or Nightcrawler) would have been a far more interesting battle.

Current drax has been nerfed. Not sure about Groot.

@powerplay said:

I'm going to put it this way. Drax is the guy who did this to Thanos:

I'm going with his team.

Drax was amped here. I recall @killemall actually mentioning before that even though Drax can kill thanos he wouldn't be able to defeat wolverine according to the guy that wrote that scene (hopefully he can correct me if I am wrong). Drax has a connection with thanos when he is near drax gets amped I believe.

Fantomex has fooled Professor X and Jean Grey with his misdirection, so yeah, you can understand the hesitation to use him.

@k4tzm4n My mistake, haven't actually voted yet so I'm basing that solely off of the comments.

@wolverine08: I feel like Drax is being sorely underestimated here. It's true that Drax was specifically made to fight Thanos, but being made to take on a guy who can shovel Galactus around like so means that Drax could at the very least hold his own against the likes of Wolverine and Arch angle

Edit:.@jashro44 Is that the case? I remember in Thanos Imperative Drax couldn't help but kill Thanos in the Cancerverse because he was under the influence of the Many Angled Ones. I don't remember Drax actually becoming stronger.

Ah, understood. Well, your vote seems pretty clear, so what're you waiting for? ;)

Personally, I feel as though Drax and Groot are being overestimated by some (considering the most recent run), but I'm avoiding providing expanded thoughts until Friday.

@powerplay said:

@wolverine08: I feel like Drax is being sorely underestimated here. It's true that Drax was specifically made to fight Thanos, but being made to take on a guy who can shovel Galactus around like so means that Drax could at the very least hold his own against the likes of Wolverine and Arch angle.

I'd just like to point out that while pushing Galactus with an energy blast is a great feat in it of itself, Galan wasn't actually hurt from the attack and was a lucky shot more than anything else..

Drax was amped....What he does with an amp holds no bearing on what he does without one. He got stomped by nova so he obviously isn't in the same league as thanos. Could he beat wolverine and some other members of the X-force? Potentially. But its not as simple as drax killed thanos therefore he wins.

X force can't kill groot, so how can they win? Also, RR and starlord can blow them apart with their tech

Just because someone can't be killed in a battle doesn't mean they cannot be incapacitated.

Just pressed the button actually :P

I haven't read the recent run with (Bendis?) but I've heard Drax was nerfed a little. Don't know about Groot though..is he still as powerful as he was during Annihilation?

Drax has been far more of a brute and hasn't displayed impressive speed. He was punched by a random fodder guard (he clearly felt it, but was obviously fine right after) and then he was almost defeated by energy blasts. Iron Man (or at least I believe it was Stark) had to save him from an exploding ship because he appeared out of it after it after being hit by a blast. Groot was literally one-shotted by Gamora. With one big slash, he was decapitated and therefore incapacitated. I'll make scans for you. Need;ess to say, I don't see this version of Drax as someone who could solo an enemy army.

Updated to include scans:

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Missed this, Killemall can better clarify but here:

It says he was glowing with increased power because he sensed thanos.

Seriously? His durability is so low he can't even bounce back from that? Man..I mean it seems like Drax got hit pretty good too but Groot..c'mon.

@juiceboks: So yeah, hopefully now you can understand why I think this is a fight where a good argument can hopefully be made for either side :D

@k4tzm4n ..Gah dammit Bendis :/

@juiceboks: LOL. Despite the lackluster showings (compared to their older showings, that is), it's still going to be an epic fight.

Or at least that's what I like to tell myself...

I'm going with the Guardians of the Galaxy on this one. Groot may not be the most skilled but he's an incredible support member of the team. If the GotG knockdown the Wolverines Groot could keep them both restrained indefinitely though also take himself out of the fight. All the Guardians would need to focus on from that point is covering him and they immediately score a 2 for 1 against X-Force in a 5 on 5 battle. I would question the ability of Warpath to match Drax's durability and strength levels. The best chance of taking him down would be Domino but she would already have her hands full with the rest.

The most interesting fight to me would be Domino vs Gamora. Truly it would be a battle of luck versus skill which they both have in spades. To be honest I'm not clear on the accuracy levels of Rocket and Starlord. I get that they're skilled but I'm not sure if they could tag Archangel or Domino fast enough. For them I would say they have a lot more advanced equipment designed to tackle multiple alien threats. A flying humanoid and a probability augmenter would probably be some of the least crazy things they've fought.

@k4tzm4n Okay I'll admit it is a more even fight than I thought..though I still think the Guardians(despite what Bendis has lead us to believe..) have what it takes to earn a solid majority over the X-Force with Groot being the MVP. That is assuming Groot's ability to grow has managed to stave off Bendis' inconsistestick.

You don't need to be particularly skilled when you have massive AoE abilities. Rocket's Laser Cannon is powerful enough to blow holes in space ships and Peters pistol has this sort of shockwave setting that can send people flying. That'd be enough to throw off and disorientate members of the X-Force or even eliminate some.

Yeah having an arsenal as diverse as that really swings it in their favor. The most advanced piece of hardware that X-Force has are Domino's firearms.

@juiceboks: @k4tzm4n: To be fair, Angela stomped the entire team of Gaurdians thanks to her clearly way super human stats. I understand Groot can be defeated, I just think its as unlikely as Wolverine beating Hulk. Wolverine can beat Hulk, but not likely as we seen. Same with Wolverine or X-23 vs Groot.

After all Angela is a 100+ toner with 3 foot holy blessed swords, 100,000 years combat experience, and proven to be a better fighter than Gamora :). Wolverine is a 2 toner with 12 inch adamantium blades.

@cadencev2 The only problem I have with that is Groot(at least in the past) has shown to be no slouch in physical strength as well. Doing things like holding up buildings one-handed and trading hits with Thanos(albeit somewhat weakened) on the reg. To be one shotted as easily as that is..underwhelming to say the least.