Colossus vs Rage

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#1  Edited By Mr Creesy

Rage has been brainwashed ( by an unknown villain) into believing that Colossus killed his grand mother.  Elvin is completely enraged upon seeing Pitor. Unable to prove his innocence, Colossus is forced to fight. Fight takes place on a farm in rural Indiana. Morals are off for Rage and Morals on for Colossus. Who wins this?
 

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#2  Edited By Mr Creesy

Any takers?

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#3  Edited By bag_o_x_men

Colossus should take it.  I think his durability is slightly superior and eventually he could get a ko.  I think he's actually a little stronger to, but they're pretty close.

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#4  Edited By GoldenStar66

Colossus should win.

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#5  Edited By Static Shock

Colossus.

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#6  Edited By nefarious

Colossus wins.

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#7  Edited By RightScar

Rage wins.

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@Static Shock said:
" Colossus. "
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#9  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

The character in the picture isn't Rage..it's Tyrone Cash.

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#10  Edited By goldenshot80
@venomoushatred1001 said:
" @Static Shock said:
" Colossus. "
"
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#11  Edited By PowerHerc

Colossus destroys Rage.
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#12  Edited By (((Prodigy)))

I think Rage might be a bit stronger when fully enraged, but Colossus has far more experience and skill. 
Colossus wins.

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#13  Edited By Mr Creesy

So basically what everyone is saying is that Rage doesn't stand a chance? I understand Colossus has the advantage in the experience department., but Rage has him beat in almost everything else. Speed, strength, stamina, durability (Rage has a healing factor), reflexes and agility. How does Colossus win without a fight?

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#14  Edited By PrinceIMC

I think Rage might have the advantage in speed but not necessarily in strength, stamina or agility. I remember many instances where people were impressed with how quickly and fluidly Colossus moved.
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#15  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Mr Creesy said:

" So basically what everyone is saying is that Rage doesn't stand a chance? I understand Colossus has the advantage in the experience department., but Rage has him beat in almost everything else. Speed, strength, stamina, durability (Rage has a healing factor), reflexes and agility. How does Colossus when without a fight? "

Colossus is stronger than Rage.Rage has the potential to get stronger but we've never actually seen how strong he can get.Colossus is class 100 from the start.Rage may have healing factor but he'd been easier to KO than Colossus.Rage isn't going to go down easy but it's almost clear he'll win eventually.Colossus is probably the better fighter too.Despite having ties to very experienced and skilled martial artist Rage doesn't really have adequate training in h2h combat.Colossus is mediocre but good enough for this situation.
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#16  Edited By Mr Creesy
@Vance Astro:  Rage is enraged at the start of this fight so he is starting out in the 100 ton class range. Its inevitable that Rage will eventually surpass Colossus in strength as the fight continues. Rage gets stronger the more violent and angry he becomes. In my opinion that makes Rage the stronger of the two. The only thing Colossus has in his defense is that he is a better hand to hand combatant. I don't think Colossus can K.O. an enraged Rage without taking massive damage himself.
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#17  Edited By PrinceIMC
@Mr Creesy:
How can anyone 'knock' Colossus back into human form? I don't think that has ever ever happened.
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#18  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Minus the rather odd and wierd  OP, Colossus wins due to reasons stated.
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#19  Edited By Mr Creesy
@Vance Astro said:
" The character in the picture isn't Rage..it's Tyrone Cash. "
Oops...
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#20  Edited By Susanoo
@Static Shock said:
"

                    Colossus.

                   

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#21  Edited By Mr Creesy
@god_spawn said:
" Minus the rather odd and wierd  OP, Colossus wins due to reasons stated. "
Sorry about that, I was trying to think of a situation that would totally enrage someone.
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#22  Edited By Mr Creesy
@PrinceIMC:  That's what his comicvine bio said. I was going off of that. I'm doing some research to see if I can't come up with some scans.
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#23  Edited By PrinceIMC
@Mr Creesy:
Oh knock him unconscious. Yes he can be knocked unconscious I thought you were saying that he'd get hit so hard he'd just revert to human form. Though he has remained in metal form while unconscious before too. I still don't think Rage has the strength or ability to knock out Colossus though.
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#24  Edited By bag_o_x_men
@Mr Creesy said:
" @PrinceIMC:  That's what his comicvine bio said. I was going off of that. I'm doing some research to see if I can't come up with some scans. "
Elvin has the hf, but his durability still isn't enough to avoid a ko IMO.  Plus, experience is a big factor.  Elvin is still really a rookie.  Colossus has years and years on him of h2h training, combat tactics training, and actual combat experience.  it's just too much.  Plus I think that raging, will actually be a hinderance here, since Elvin won't be thinking clearly.  It might get his strength into Colossus' range or even a little above, but he'll actually be fighting worse.  And Colossus is trained to fight guys stronger than himself, and use judo/akido techniques to utilize leverage and manipulate his opponent's momentum.  He may not be a master of h2h, but he's no slouch either.
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#25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Mr Creesy said:
" @Vance Astro:  Rage is enraged at the start of this fight so he is starting out in the 100 ton class range. Its inevitable that Rage will eventually surpass Colossus in strength as the fight continues. Rage gets stronger the more violent and angry he becomes. In my opinion that makes Rage the stronger of the two. The only thing Colossus has in his defense is that he is a better hand to hand combatant. I don't think Colossus can K.O. an enraged Rage without taking massive damage himself. "
You still can't compare a non bulletproof 100 tonner to one that's organic steel and even when Rage has reached 100 tons we still haven't seen the extent of his strength.For all we know he's still weaker than Colossus regardless because Colossus has better feats.
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#26  Edited By lectriccolossus

Colossus. duh
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#29  Edited By Noobmaster2001

Tough one. Colossus may win, but Rage has some impressive feats of his own. Rage definitely has a good shot at winning under these conditions though.

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@vance_astro: How am I suppose to know you're joking when you yourself are not sure if you're joking?

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@vance_astro: How am I suppose to know you're joking when you yourself are not sure if you're joking?

Getting a black guy confused for another black guy? Oh dear. That hasn't aged well.

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Pretty sure Rage wins. Scaling solidly above Namorita alone outclasses Colossus.

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#33  Edited By Noobmaster2001

@noone1996: I think Rage has been jobbing recently, he got kind of disrespected in Captain America: Sam Wilson’s series, hence why I think Colossus isn’t totally outmatched.

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@noobmaster2001: Doesn't matter. Consistency puts him at mid-tier level. Colossus is shit by mid tier standards.

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#35  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

@darthshado said:

@vance_astro: How am I suppose to know you're joking when you yourself are not sure if you're joking?

You're not, that's why I'm telling you "I think". How do I know what was in my head when I was posting 9 yrs ago? I know the difference between Rage & Tyrone Cash, I read the series that image is from, I'm a New Warriors fan, that's why I THINK I was joking.

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@vance_astro: I thought you were being sarcastic lol. I didn't even realize your post was 9 years old until you just mentioned it.

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I’ll change my opinion and go with Rage.