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#1  Edited By King_Dragan

They both have prep time. Cole has all powers that he's ever used. Batman has access to all Gadgets he's ever used. The setting is in Gotham City and Cole is familiar with Gotham.

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#2  Edited By Ferro Vida
@King_Dragan: You need to specify more with Batman. As it is now there is nothing stopping him from doing something crazy like bringing out one of his various battle suits.But if Cole has access to every power he has ever used Batman is probably going to need more then his usual tech to put him down.
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#3  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Batman would curbstomp Cole with prep.

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#4  Edited By King_Dragan

@Ferro Vida: Batman has access to anything he's ever used in comics, all of his suits and gadgets.

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#5  Edited By Ferro Vida
@King_Dragan said:

@Ferro Vida: Batman has access to anything he's ever used in comics, all of his suits and gadgets.

Batman stomps Cole into a fine paste.
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#6  Edited By TDK_1997

Batman with prep will destroy Cole MacGrath.

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#7  Edited By King_Dragan

Can you guys please tell me why and how Batman would win?

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#8  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King_Dragan said:

Can you guys please tell me why and how Batman would win?

Batman has been known to have a plan for taking down every member of the Justice League in case they go rogue.I don't see why with prep he wouldn't absolutely destroy Cole.
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#9  Edited By King_Dragan

They only have 1 hour prep.

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#10  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@King_Dragan said:

They only have 1 hour prep.

I don't think it makes a difference.Batman has ALOT at his disposal.
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#11  Edited By NlGHTCRAWLER

Doesn't Cole at some point have space/time bending powers? How does Batman put up against that?

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#12  Edited By King_Dragan

Cole has his draining power that will give him infinite power for a certain time that drains humans and buildings in a giant radiance.

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#13  Edited By TDK_1997

@King_Dragan said:

Can you guys please tell me why and how Batman would win?

Batman has taken down the whole Justice League with prep.Cole won't be a problem for him here.

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#14  Edited By King_Dragan

@TDK_1997: well Cole becomes the beast at the end of two (evil ending) so he can take cities out in a hour and if Cole was in the same universe Batman might get the plague or gets the conduit himself.

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#15  Edited By Shawnbaby

You need to be specific about how much Prep Time they get. It really affects the outcome. 

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#16  Edited By steelhound56

Wow.

Bats murderstomps Cole with prep

Insider Suit FTW

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#17  Edited By Deranged Midget

@steelhound56: Honestly, I find the Insider suit to be almost irrelevant at this point. It was only used once and hasn't been even seen or mentioned in the New 52 so I wouldn't expect him to resort to it.

Batman wins regardless since he has far more at his disposal.

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#18  Edited By mavfan626

@Vance Astro: Hey, just want to know who your avatar is?

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#19  Edited By Mattersuit

Batman murderstomps like a boss

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#20  Edited By nefarious

I would like to see how the Dark Knight will utilize his prep-time here.

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#21  Edited By rpgr

Batman stomps. Insider Suit makes all of Coles electric powers useless. The suit drains Cole's electric powers the same way cole drains electricity from electric grids.

To fight insider suit, you have to go h2h, it drains all normal energy projection attacks (not including magic/chi but probably including lantern energy).

To be absolutely silly. Batman installs iron fence. wins. Batman calls Aquaman, says he has the perfect villian for Aquaman. Aquaman says "yay, I don't just talk to fish anymore" Btaman wins by giving Aquaman self-esteem.

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#22  Edited By TDK_1997

@King_Dragan: Even then Batman curbstomps him with prep.

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#23  Edited By Enemybird

Cole has a severe weakness to water Batman could take him impromptu

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#24  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Bat Super Soaker.
 
Seriously. Why did nobody think to use that in the inFamous series?

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#25  Edited By Strider1992

Batman has access to everything he's ever used?

Why is this even a debate.....................

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#26  Edited By renamed040924

@King_Dragan said:

Can you guys please tell me why and how Batman would win?

Water.

Not to undersell Cole though, Batman will need more then an hour, but he can win.

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Bat Super Soaker. Seriously. Why did nobody think to use that in the inFamous series?

Because Cole isn't nearly THAT weak. He was just fine in the rain; he needs to be completely submerged.

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Cole has a severe weakness to water Batman could take him impromptu

Not impromptu. What's Batman gonna use? A fire hydrant?

Like I said, Cole was just fine in the rain, he needs to be completely submerged.

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#27  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
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@Vance Astro: Hey, just want to know who your avatar is?

Tony Stark.
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#28  Edited By Jezer

How is Batman going to deal with Cole's telekinesis? His teleportation?

Cole with all the powers hes ever had includes future Cole, who can travel back in time, teleport, create electric copies of himself, cause earthquakes.

Cole with all his powers includes his ice powers, his fire powers, and his powers as the Beast. Who's energy attacks were making their own gravitational field.

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#29  Edited By Soulstealer

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Doesn't Cole at some point have space/time bending powers? How does Batman put up against that?

Those are Kessler's powers and as such Cole has yet to display anything close to them.

Also considering that Kessler himself didn't exist during his own timeline as Cole; I'd say that the timeline has changed enough that there is no way to know how Cole's powers will or will not develop in the future. And that was before he started gaining abilities from outside sources.
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#30  Edited By gingerpenny

Batman would be one of, if not, the hardest foe he has fought but Cole would fry Bats and any of his equipment in the end. Batman is being way over exaggerated in this forum and Cole is being way under rated

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#31  Edited By renamed040924

@gingerpenny said:

Batman would be one of, if not, the hardest foe he has fought but Cole would fry Bats and any of his equipment in the end. Batman is being way over exaggerated in this forum and Cole is being way under rated

The Beast tanked a nuke, whom Cole was able to severely weaken in there final fight. IMO all it takes is a couple blasts max and Batman is down.

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#32  Edited By Sega_Shaman

Batman with access to any gadget he's ever used gives a huge arsenal to him. I'm a fan of Cole (more-so of Mercer, but whatever), but Batman is mascot of being prepared. Of course your average rubber suit isn't going to stand up to a torrent of lightning, since even though it doesn't conduct electricity well doesn't stop it from melting from the heat. But Bats has better. And Cole has a huge weakness of short circuiting in water. Cue Batman with a fire hose. Batman certainly already has plans for fighting an electric-based super, he has plans for everybody. Still, Cole with the Beast's powers would definitely be tough.

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#33  Edited By NlGHTCRAWLER

@Soulstealer said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

Doesn't Cole at some point have space/time bending powers? How does Batman put up against that?

Those are Kessler's powers and as such Cole has yet to display anything close to them.

Also considering that Kessler himself didn't exist during his own timeline as Cole; I'd say that the timeline has changed enough that there is no way to know how Cole's powers will or will not develop in the future. And that was before he started gaining abilities from outside sources.

Isn't Kessler Cole tho?

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#34  Edited By Soulstealer

Yes and no. A lot happened to Kessler that cannot ever happen to Cole (Kessler himself is vital in a great deal of it actually), so alternate universe version rules apply in my mind. Especially seeing as Kessler himself seemed to have tech or implants that we have no real idea of the scope of. Also I used the spoiler warning to keep that bit on the hush for anyone that didn't finish or play the first game.

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#35  Edited By The_Elemetal

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

@Soulstealer said:

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

Doesn't Cole at some point have space/time bending powers? How does Batman put up against that?

Those are Kessler's powers and as such Cole has yet to display anything close to them.

Also considering that Kessler himself didn't exist during his own timeline as Cole; I'd say that the timeline has changed enough that there is no way to know how Cole's powers will or will not develop in the future. And that was before he started gaining abilities from outside sources.

Isn't Kessler Cole tho?

Yes and no, Kessler is technically Cole but from a differnt timeline. Cole had differnt things happen than Kessler did. So because Kessler interfered with the past Coles future was altered entirely

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#36  Edited By nickthedevil

Lets be honest... Batman has had years worth prep to take the justice league. Cole is a power house... This is in no way a stomp... Is cole still weak against water?

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#37  Edited By CerberusPrime3k

I'd say it could go both ways having batman access to all his gear and cole to all his powers including not just lightning but also fire/ice.

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#38  Edited By renamed040924

@nickthedevil said:

Lets be honest... Batman has had years worth prep to take the justice league. Cole is a power house... This is in no way a stomp... Is cole still weak against water?

As I've said, he was just fine in the rain. It takes being completely submerged to hurt him.

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#39  Edited By venomyak

No way is Batman taking down Cole with Beast powers with one hour's prep.

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#40  Edited By gingerpenny
@nickzambuto: I agree with you, I was just trying to be nice to the Bat fans
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#41  Edited By OpCharybdis

Bat needs way more than just an hour of prep. I say Cole with Major difficulty, 'cause let's face it.

Batman is the god **** Batman.

Give him a week and he stomps. NOT with an hour though.

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@tdk_1997 said:

Batman with prep will destroy Cole MacGrath.

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1 hour prep won't help if your opponent can city bust.

EVERY POWER, right? I guess that includes Beast powers. And teleporting Kessler.

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Batman throws a explosive batarang in his face and kicks him in the balls.

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@parryboy: That he's ever USED. Beast Cole doesn't really have feats. He never learned Teleport except for his firebird move he got from Nix.

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@darthaznable:

I believe what was narrated is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crxq4e2rwbo

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Beast transferred all his power in Cole-- resulting him in death. He was tired in killing and he believed that his plan will continue on with Cole, so he transferred his power into the man.

We still have Kessler, who was Cole, and had time travel. Also he can summon these weird flotaing things and make copies of himself.

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Batman throws a explosive batarang in his face and kicks him in the balls.

That won't work at all, not even in the slightest.

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@deathhero61: lmao why not? Militias hurt him with punches... They are not even peak humans