Coie anti monitor vs Thought robot

Thought Robot slaughterhouse

Thought Robot

Not imo

thought robot was probably the most powerful being in DC universe

Stalemate.

AM

You have to decide based on what you believe is the best indication of power.

Based on the issue and explanation, it defeated a thread beyond multiversal, who saw the multiverse as germs. So yeah it would be more than a match for COIE Anti Monitor.

Based on actual on panel feat and what happened, it falls WAYY short of the mark.

Also instantly adapt to "anything" is false because at the end of the fight with Mandrakk the robot was permanently destroyed.

TH

Mandrakk was the greatest threat to the multiverse

COIE AM was a threat to the mutliverse

Mandrakk > AM

Ergo TH > AM

so we're going by statements now? not to mention that some of these statements were proven to be hyperbole. I could also show you some statements regarding anti monitor if you want.

COIE AM actually destroyed infinite universes, Mandrakk did nothing of the sort, and he was considered a threat to a multiverse which consisted of 52 universes.

AM at his peak should definitely handle mandrakk.

@rolldestroyer:

Thought Rbobot is made by God and is considered to be the ultimate weapon and can only be killed by God. It can quickly adapted to any threat and destroy it.

that's false, it was stated to be dax novu's final gift, more than once, first in superman beyond #1

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then again in superman beyond #2:

Not only was this never stated but that's proven to be false, since at the end of superman beyond #2 the armor was broken.

anti monitor wins.

@rolldestroyer: Great posts. Sorry for the bump.

So how does AM go about winning this fight against TR?

Bump. Getting interesting, now.

Thought Robot, he can instant adapt and counter any threat....he countered a being who was manipulating and eating stories of the DCU and defeated him, Thought Robot countered against story manipulation and won... nothing tops that AM dies

Thought robot

Probably TR

Antimonitor

Thought Robot.

Thought Robot against PR Beyonder?

Antimonitor curbstomps . He defeated spectre being amped by phantom stranger , classic dr fate , and 5th dimensional imp thunderbolt .

Anyone below lucifers level gets stomped

Anti Monitor. About as impressive feats, and way more of them.

Thought robot loses. He doesn't have enough feats and alot of his power is just implied

TR

ends in sex

TR can't adapt to anything for sh*t . COIE AM at his weakened from absorbed thosuands of universes . At his peak he is waaaaaaay powerful TR and it's not even close .

TR.

ThoughtRobot for the win!!!

Bump

AM is nothing to compare with TR
TR wins easily

TR

@rolldestroyer:No the Monitors believed it was after studying and evaluating it for "eons" as said in the previous issues. Before their conclusion they had no idea what it was and incorrectly believed Dax Novu created it. Dax, the first of the Monitors, never actually confirmed that idea and never said anything about creating the Thought Robot.

But it wasn't made by God either. It was created by the Multiverse itself before the creation of Nil. It was meant to be the Ultimate Good to Mandrakk's Ultimate Evil. Both came from the probe that split upon first contact with the Multiverse. Good and Evil are produced by the Multiverse to generate conflict which leads to stories. Which is why we have Monitor and Anti-Monitor, New Genesis and Apokolips, Superman and Ultraman etc. Final Crisis deals a lot on the duality theme.

The Thought Robot is in the form of Superman because he is DC's greatest champion.

These two originate outside of DC's "story" and have abilities related to "story" (TR changes the story, Mandrakk consumes it). Mandrakk is on a meta level. He is beyond Anti-Monitor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DCcomics/comments/fu79qr/the_monitormind_and_the_true_origin_of_the/

Omega xelee stomp in favor of Anti Monitor. Anti Monitor is more or less equal to his brother Monitor, Mar Novu.

Just one fragment of Mar Novu was enough to match the Thought Robot. Unfortunately CAS is not even in Anti Monitor's league.

Anti Monitor stomps

^ Earth is one of the foremost experts on this subject. I only disagree with one part of this and its vividly subjective and not something I will push as objective:

which is that the concept that Overvoid made to contain the flaw was a two step system, the Orrery cage that contained the entire flaw, and the security guard, the silent sentinel to watch over it, the CAS.

Nil Monitors had all the info on Dax and access to the infinity book, of which the origin of CAS was not part of, they simply had no idea what the hell it was and IMO Overvoid is the only thing that knew what it was. IMO, it told captain allen about it when he contacted overvoid. I don't believe that Dax Novu split into Mandrakk and the CAS...because Dax Novu self exiled and slowly molted into Mandrakk. IMO, splitting a piece indirectly or directly consciously, doesnt make much sense to me as a valid arguement

Dax splits off half of himself only to have that same half destroy him later and stand guard to make sure hisself doesn't achieve bad things later. If we use the Unexpected as a reference, mandrakk saying "superman clothed in the cosmic armor couldnt stop me" is a notion that Mandrakk knew this was a weapon and guard against himself and anything that tried to affect the Flaw. Thats my view.

Mandrakk saying YOUR COSMIC ARMOR literally makes no sense what so ever. That is because the CAS was made by Overvoid to represent the ultimate heroic aspect possible, which is what Superman embodies.

Shouldn't it be MY Cosmic Armor?

@michaeljulius:

which is that the concept that Overvoid made to contain the flaw was a two step system, the Orrery cage that contained the entire flaw, and the security guard, the silent sentinel to watch over it, the CAS.

Oh, actually Grant Morrison clarified about what he did to contain the flaw. It was just the Orrery.

Straight from Grant himself, the author.

Neon touches Alpheus work and even Forger and his tools agree Mandrakk is God. As always, Deagon, you and your friends have no facts what so ever to back this up. None. All the comics disagree with you completely.

@michaeljulius:

Neon touches Alpheus work and even Forger and his tools agree Mandrakk is God.

"A god." Not God with a capital G. That following scan with Overman is different than the one where Superman read the book and found out about Overvoid.

All the comics disagree with you completely.

I literally dont even know what you're responding to with your comment.

Based on on-panel feats, I feel like Anti Monitor's got this. Based on wank and hype, Thought Robot stomps probably

TR stomps.