Chunin Exam Shinki vs Chunin Exam Gaara

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Chunin Exam Shinki of the Iron Sand

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Chunin Exam Sabaku no Gaara

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  • Shukaku restricted
  • Determined to win
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Gaara but its a lil close.

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Going with Gaara.

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Sand coffin

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Shinki has very little feats. So at this point in time. Gaara stomps

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People should really start to, at least, look for infos before speaking - not an attack, friendly reminder.

Shinki takes this with small efforts due to several, clear, reasons:

  • Shinki was trained by Gaara in order to control his Magnet Release power. Gaara's taught (almost) everything to Shinki about his Sand powers/attacks/moves and versatility. As the Kazekage himself said. Which basically means that Shinki'll fight against an enemy that has no secrets to him.

  • Iron Sand > CE Gaara Chakra Infused Sand ----> pretty simple to understand. Iron Sand is just way better than Chunin Exam Gaara's sand. It's heavier, stronger (with also Sand Marking due to Magnet force) and also is the perfect counter. Rasa stated something similar during the 4th War.

  • Better mobility ---> Shinki was able to keep up with Metal Lee and easily react against Mistuki in a H2H. While CE Gaara always used his sand in order to catch an opponent etc.

  • Better power-control, more skilled, more strategic. As Gaara's stated, Shinki didn't show his true potential against Mitsuki nor Chocho nor Lee/Iwabe.

Shinki is just better in everything compared with CE Gaara (without Shukaku).
Different if this was Sasuke Retrival Arc Gaara, though.

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#7 juiceboks  Moderator

Gaara has better feats against more established characters

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Gaara easily the new generation proved that they have low physical stats and in no way does shinki block gaaras attack as he has to conciously block them Or actually hit gaara who has auto shield

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Aslo the new gens are freaking slow and ans have no speed feats comaprable to lee without weights except for the vague scene from sm mitsuki

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@westwood_trevor: Your whole argument is base around the Iron Sand being better.....but not the ninja behind the sand being better. That said, Gaara is better

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@asurakj: Shinki threw a spear at supersonic speeds and could react and stop it in mid air.

Shinki takes this, his sand is just better.

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@gaoron: gaara sand is faster and has feats to prove that while shinki doesn't

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@asurakj: Only Gaara defensive sand has feats, his offensive one doesn't atleast not ones that surpasses Shinkis. And Shinki has supersonic reactions as of last ep, does Gaara ever shown supersonic reactions?

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@gaoron:How does he have supersonic reactions

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@thenewguysnm1: He threw and stopped sand spear that was making sonic booms in last ep.

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@gaoron: Thats mach 1 in reaction which is something that gaata is used to

Gaara floods him in sand not really debatable also thats a non cannon anime only scene

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@gaoron: gaara fought lee who was clearly faster than mach 1 and his defense is way faster and stronger. As he has shukaku and higher chakra along with feats while shinki hasnt shown much so this battle goes to gaara easily until he shows anything worthy. Which is highly unlikely as this guy lost to boruto who lost to shikadai and shika was having trouble with such slow attacks, the new gens is a disappointment and only look strong because of better animations and many chakra nature unlike previous gen.

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@asurakj: @thenewguysnm1: Show me Gaara reacting to supersonic speeds then. His sand defense is but his own reactions and projectiles are not. Shinki is faster and he is more skilled with using his sand.

Pretty sure anime retold the movie and is current canon along with the manga just like DBS.

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Gaara.

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#21  Edited By Gaoron

@thenewguysnm1: Yep

"Not just that: The arc include canon-elements from Kishimoto’s original draft that wasn’t in the movie due to time constraints. Including a new Otsutsuki member.

This will be a re-adaptation of the movie, but it will include ALL of the missing information that Masashi Kishimoto wanted to incorporate before he movie came out. Again it was due to time constraints, but now all of the information can be fleshed out."

Anime readapts the arc with characters and events that were not in the movie and manga due to time restrictions. Anime is the "most canon" source for this arc.

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Shinki owns Gaara... if the ground allows ( if you know what a i mean)

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#25  Edited By Abyssdarkfire

Still garra. boruto and sarada could comfortably dodge shinki's sand for the most part while it took and weightless lee to dodge garra's. Plus Garra's sand is faster and can auto guard unlike shinki's.

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"Shinki threw a iron sand spear at Mach 1"

Yeah,and Gaara sand was shielding from point blank explosions when he was a baby.

You yourself said, iron sand is heavier, Gaaras and is lighter and faster, it's also as strong as steel.

Gaara has more sand, his sand is faster, has better defensive feats, plus Gaara has Sand armor that can take multiple hits from Gate 5 Lee (while Shinki gets one shot from a punch from boruto).

I see Gaara overwhelming him with sand and grinding him to blood.

Metal Lee, Base mitsuki, boruto and sarada have no speed feats on the the level of Sasuke, Rock Lee and Naruto who fought Gaara, so Shinki reacting to them doesn't really add anything here.

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Boruto, mitsuki, etc were capable of keeping up with Shizuma who was faster than sight when he first met boruto. Boruto using his second boruto stream was faster than Shizuma could see him.

It would be a lowball to say mitsuki and boruto are not even the speed of sound.

Even shikadai in one episode was fast enough to blitz a paper bomb explosion after it blew up and save a kid from it.

Inojin was able to draw a huge bird, climb on it and cross a distance of 10 metres all the while a piece of paper couldn't even fall a distance of a few centimeter under the force of gravity.

Pretty good speed feats if ya ask me. Shinki should be able to keep up with gaara's sand. Though I guess it is faster than him.

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In the land of waves Arc, sasuke, naruto and Haku were already faster than sight.

Sasuke could blitz and intercept Chunin level bingo book Assassin's, blitz 8 clones of Zabuza demon of the hidden mist before they could move. Or fighting base Haku and out speeding him.

Haku showed speed fast enough to create waves on water he passed over (without touching it), move faster than eye to blitz two samurai and disarm them, with his mirror tech he moved so fast that a drop of water was frozen mid air has as travelled from mirror to mirror taking out multiple Naruto clones (note that sasuke could perceive him moving in this mode and was fast enough to cross a wide distance and stop him from attacking Naruto).

Thats all from the First arc, before they started a ping with curse seals and or Base speed training. And it sounds more impressive than what you posted.

The Shikadai feat , did he save the kid before the explosion expand or while the paper bomb was still burning. Either way it's a good feat, though I don't think it compares, the Inojin feat is also impressive, but has its own problem because of the effects of wind/air on paper when not in a vacuum (plus this is still wave arc level).

It's not a low ball to boruto and mitsuki if they don't have clear faster than sound speed feats, we can't just say, "well they're at the chunin level exams, and they're parents had supersonic reactions at that time, so they should have it too".

I'll try to rewatch the fights Mitsuki and Boruto had to see if they have any more speed feats, but I doubt. The fastest attack shinki had was his special spear attack that created a sonic boom, yet mitsuki, boruto and sarada got tagged by his slower attacks.

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Garra wins.

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Shinki stomps CE Gaara without Shukaku.

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Tough match, leaning towards shinki, but after a tough battle, although gaara has access to more sand than he does, shinki might be able to tag him with his sand and use the electromagnetism technique, but shinki barely comes out alive.

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Shinki ftw

Lol at anyone besides CE Lee and Sasuke being faster than new gen

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Gaara

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I still back Shinki

He has superior sand and more versatility

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still don't see how iron sand is superior, when gaaras sand has better speed and durability/defence feats

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Gaara.

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The kids on this thread that say Shinki takes this are wankin HARD. Gaara wins. Gaara has more power, skill, and his defense is more solid. Also he had the 1 tail. There's some real dumbfounded people here on comicvine.

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Gaara solos the new gen

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@streak619: Are you aware Boruto, Sarada and even Shikadai timed explosions?

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Shinki lacks Gaara's passive defense. This is the only reason Gaara comes out victorious.

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@SouskueMadara: Boruto and Sarada timed an explosion in ep 79 and Shinki was able to tag them, so why shouldn't he be able to bypass Gaara's defense? Heck, even with Gaara's passive defense Shinki tagged ADULT Gaara (check the episode that shows Gaara meeting Shinki for the first time).

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tie neither can hurt the other.

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@thecoolest: Because his powers aren't passive like Gaara's and (unless something changed in the last 10 or so episodes) not half as good

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@westwood_trevor:

Anyone arguing with this is wrong. Couldn’t have said it better myself bro