Poll Cho-Hulk/Spider-Man/Captain America vs Wolverine/Colossus/Iron Man (121 votes)
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Rules:
- Fight is until death, incapacitation, or submission
- No bfr
- No prep
- Random encounter
- Standard gear and equipment
- Fight takes place here:
Who wins?
Team 1 starts at A, Team 2 starts at D
Who wins?
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id say cho solos but logan could probably beat him currently.
Who is he? And what can he do?
Team 1.
Team 1
Nah. Team 2 wins, and Cap is a weak link.
id say cho solos but logan could probably beat him currently.
Who is he? And what can he do?
Well he's the current hulk...
His raw power should be enough to walk over ironman and colossus, but he's susceptible to piercing attacks which is why I said logan could potentially win; granted he already stomped old man logan if that counts for anything.
id say cho solos but logan could probably beat him currently.
Who is he? And what can he do?
Well he's the current hulk...
His raw power should be enough to walk over ironman and colossus, but he's susceptible to piercing attacks which is why I said logan could potentially win; granted he already stomped old man logan if that counts for anything.
I'd say it does. Not a lot, but it is telling. However, OML has a seriously depleted healing factor and was hesitating IIRC as he was realizing things were not the same ... (Conversely, Cho was not holding back as he was acting as though he was facing a Wolverine with full faculties)
Regular 616 Wolverine should do better, though I'd hesitate to say he would ultimately win. I would venture to say he could forestall Cho long enough for back-up to arrive. Iron Man is the best dancing partner for Spidey, Colossus would be frustrated by Steve long enough for Iron Man to help seal the deal (I honestly don't think Piotr could lay a glove on Rogers nor would he resort to area of effect damage in character for fear of seriously hurting Steve so it would be a relatively long case of cat chasing mouse).
Iron Man is the MVP. He has oh so many ways of taking out Parker quickly, that this is really the leading factor IMHO for saying team Iron Man stands a chance. Though jury's still out on who ultimately wins TBH.
Iron Man solos. Only CHulk is the threat here.
Unless Tony has BE or some composite armor, he shouldn't solo even cho hulk.
@apex_pretador: Well, I'd say we use Bleeding Edge armor here.
Spiderman beats Logan. Iron Man one shots Cap. Spiderman fights Iron Man while Cho beats Colossus. Than Cho wrecks Stark.
Iron man will take out both spidey and Cap much before Spidey downs Logan, or Chulk downs Colossus.
Or even better - Logan beats chulk, Colossus slams Cap, Tony beats Spidey.
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Chulk has stomped Logan before, and I'm hard pressed to think that he colossus can easily put down someone who can cause earthquakes with his punches and can effortlessly tank mineshafts collapsing on his face.
Debate me mate.
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Chulk has stomped Logan before, and I'm hard pressed to think that he colossus can easily put down someone who can cause earthquakes with his punches and can effortlessly tank mineshafts collapsing on his face.
Debate me mate.
Chulk downed OML. Not the same. OML had a seriously depleted healing factor and was confused throughout. Plus he's, well, "old".
Agreed that Chulk would ultimately defeat Colossus, but it wouldn't be done faster than Iron Man could down both Spidey (while Logan ran interference) and Cap. It's a team fight, not just a series of 1 v 1.
Let's face it, Chulk and Logan would be in each other's faces first and foremost while Iron Man sorts both Parker and Cap. Piotr can pick whichever of the two parties he wants to join really.
Wolverine doesn't need to defeat Chulk (personally, I'm not convinced he would ultimately), just keep him busy while Tony takes out the others.
Bad bad idea - Cho is a beast - although he has mostly fought monsters - dude whacked T'Challa's vibranium armor even though he was seriously holding back - got his tendons shredded by Logan and could still have killed him if he wanted to - whacks monsters for day job - and we havent yet seen what he's fully capable of - don't see how Iron man's stopping him - he solo's - .::
id say cho solos but logan could probably beat him currently.
Who is he? And what can he do?
Well he's the current hulk...
His raw power should be enough to walk over ironman and colossus, but he's susceptible to piercing attacks which is why I said logan could potentially win; granted he already stomped old man logan if that counts for anything.
I'd say it does. Not a lot, but it is telling. However, OML has a seriously depleted healing factor and was hesitating IIRC as he was realizing things were not the same ... (Conversely, Cho was not holding back as he was acting as though he was facing a Wolverine with full faculties)
Regular 616 Wolverine should do better, though I'd hesitate to say he would ultimately win. I would venture to say he could forestall Cho long enough for back-up to arrive. Iron Man is the best dancing partner for Spidey, Colossus would be frustrated by Steve long enough for Iron Man to help seal the deal (I honestly don't think Piotr could lay a glove on Rogers nor would he resort to area of effect damage in character for fear of seriously hurting Steve so it would be a relatively long case of cat chasing mouse).
Iron Man is the MVP. He has oh so many ways of taking out Parker quickly, that this is really the leading factor IMHO for saying team Iron Man stands a chance. Though jury's still out on who ultimately wins TBH.
You've got it the wrong way around; cho was the confused one and was explicitly holding back (he didnt have a clue what was going on). Logan was going for the kill from the start and was running tactics through his head in the interior narration, even after the last punch was thrown he still wanted to kill cho until he pointed out he wasn't banner. On the flip side, Cho was going easy up to the end of the fight, where he slammed logan into the ground and immediately apologised for getting carried away - said slam breaking logan's ribs and piercing internal organs, he even passed out due to the damage from it a few minutes after the fight.
I say he could win since slashing attacks are the only thing that have really hurt Cho so far, even losing to someone by being ripped to shreds with claws in his most recent appearance, granted the person he was up against gains power through emotion, and cho was at his angriest and most prideful point ever. Logan is also faster and heals quicker which could help.
I think logan versus cho is the most important fight here. Shrugging off a dozen she hulk level beings with a flex, almost sinking hawaii, stopping a hit from mjolnir with one arm, busting out a bunker that classic hulk couldn't scratch etc are far above what ironman or colossus can touch. Logan is the only person here with the means of seriously harming Cho imo.
Team 1. Parker has so many ways of easily taking out Tony and Piotr (Antarctic vibranium, z-metal webbing) and both Cap and Chulk can easily beat Wolverine if it comes to that. Most likely what will happen is Cap holds of Logan while Chulk beats Colossus and Spidey takes out Iron Man, and then they easily take out Wolverine.
@blackspidey2099: There is no prep so Spider-Man can't hurt Tony.
@thesoulforge: Was that mech chulk defeated made of vibranium? Also iirc chulk was losing until his sister was in trouble than he was angrier than ever.
More like holding back - he was mad about Banner - but he still knew T'Challa was in the armor - and unlike Banner - he has full ontrol of his mind in hulk form - although it's been hinted he might eventually lose the control he has - so I'll say he was trying not to kill the guy - and I'm not sure the suit is entirely made of vibranium - but it's probably laced at least - and it absorbed energy from Hulk's hits - and used it to power the suit more - .::
Cho can't even beat Iron-man. Even less walk over him.
Bro . . . Why?
@depinhom: What Iron-man are we talking about?
Iron Man isn't losing to Spider-Man:
That was far from fair.
@thedailybagel: He got two-shotted by a knockoff Iron Man armor. Imagine what the real deal could do.
@thedailybagel: He got two-shotted by a knockoff Iron Man armor. Imagine what the real deal could do.
He took a sustained repulsor blast head on (completely unaware of it) and then punched in the face, again whilst not really expecting it.
of course the real deal would win, i just dont think thats a fair representation of how it would go down.
@thedailybagel: Of course he is not aware of it because Iron-man is too fast for Peter's Spider Sense to aid him. Unless this is Model Prime which is nothing short of pathetic armor.
@depinhom: What Iron-man are we talking about?
Model 51.
@depinhom: Then I'm not gonna judge.
@thedailybagel: I suppose you could argue that the first blast was unexpected (even though he should have a spider sense), but the second one definitely wasn't. The way it'd go down would be a lot less exciting than those images projected. It'd be something like this:
In a well-written story, Spider-Man doesn't give a serious Iron Man all that much trouble.
@g2_: Spider-Man doesn't need prep to hurt Tony. He has Antarctic vibranium, z-metal webbing, and even the spider-bits Ock used to hack Ultron's tech, and that Peter later upgraded.
@atheistknowledge: @thedailybagel: How good is Chulk, how does he stands to people like Superman and Banner Hulk?
@thekinfing: His weaksauce compared to them. I'd say he is Blue Marvel level, basically above mid-tier characters but below most well established powerhouses.
id say cho solos but logan could probably beat him currently.
Who is he? And what can he do?
Well he's the current hulk...
His raw power should be enough to walk over ironman and colossus, but he's susceptible to piercing attacks which is why I said logan could potentially win; granted he already stomped old man logan if that counts for anything.
I'd say it does. Not a lot, but it is telling. However, OML has a seriously depleted healing factor and was hesitating IIRC as he was realizing things were not the same ... (Conversely, Cho was not holding back as he was acting as though he was facing a Wolverine with full faculties)
Regular 616 Wolverine should do better, though I'd hesitate to say he would ultimately win. I would venture to say he could forestall Cho long enough for back-up to arrive. Iron Man is the best dancing partner for Spidey, Colossus would be frustrated by Steve long enough for Iron Man to help seal the deal (I honestly don't think Piotr could lay a glove on Rogers nor would he resort to area of effect damage in character for fear of seriously hurting Steve so it would be a relatively long case of cat chasing mouse).
Iron Man is the MVP. He has oh so many ways of taking out Parker quickly, that this is really the leading factor IMHO for saying team Iron Man stands a chance. Though jury's still out on who ultimately wins TBH.
You've got it the wrong way around; cho was the confused one and was explicitly holding back (he didnt have a clue what was going on). Logan was going for the kill from the start and was running tactics through his head in the interior narration, even after the last punch was thrown he still wanted to kill cho until he pointed out he wasn't banner. On the flip side, Cho was going easy up to the end of the fight, where he slammed logan into the ground and immediately apologised for getting carried away - said slam breaking logan's ribs and piercing internal organs, he even passed out due to the damage from it a few minutes after the fight.
I say he could win since slashing attacks are the only thing that have really hurt Cho so far, even losing to someone by being ripped to shreds with claws in his most recent appearance, granted the person he was up against gains power through emotion, and cho was at his angriest and most prideful point ever. Logan is also faster and heals quicker which could help.
I think logan versus cho is the most important fight here. Shrugging off a dozen she hulk level beings with a flex, almost sinking hawaii, stopping a hit from mjolnir with one arm, busting out a bunker that classic hulk couldn't scratch etc are far above what ironman or colossus can touch. Logan is the only person here with the means of seriously harming Cho imo.
Ah you're right. I did indeed have that part backward. I agree that Wolverine is the only one equipped to possibly hurt Cho. I just don't think he can win a majority personally. Assuming we're not talking OML here, assuming Wolverine is 616 and at his peak, I still think he loses ultimately. He might pull a win or two going for highly vulnerable pressure points in the head with his claws ... but I just don't see a majority.
Guess I'd have to say team 1 wins as Chulk would prove too much.
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as pretentiously the cho expert, he still is mid tier, not able to compare to bannerhulk and supes, but he does have feats, such as, when playful, smashing through a bunker in 6 or seven hits that it classic hulk could pound on all night, causing earthquakes with his punches, tanking collapsing mindshare and cyclops blasts, singlehandedly catching a swing from theories and lifting cruise ships. When he's really pissed he has feats such as effortlessly snagging miles morales out the air, shrugging off half a dozen she hulk level begins,and overpowering something that had been putting him down for 6 pages and was on the verge of turning him back.
So... pretty tough.
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