Charlotte Katakuri vs Ulquiorra Cifer

-Bloodlusted

-Basic Knowledge; no prep

-Standard Gear

-Win by Death only.

-Location: Mirro-World

Who wins and why?

feats for Charlotte?

There isn't enough room to spam Lanza and if Katakuri suffocates Ulquiorra in mochi, there isn't anything he can do about it.

@kingogkings777:

Respect Thread

Ulquiorra

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Katakuri. Consistently better in every way and Ulquiorra's only hope is Lanza, which will never hit Katakuri due to his superior speed and precog.

Katakuri one-shots.

Ohhhhhh shit, I would have never thought of this battle.

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Katakuri blitzs. Ulquiorra could be man handled here.

People are forgetting how durable Ulquiorra is.

Usually I'd say Ulquiorra nukes him, but considering there isn't really enough space in the Mirror World for something like that, Katakuri wins in a good fight.

Ulquiorra blitzes.

Ulquiorra seemed to be quite a bit more powerful. Katakurui does probably have more physical strength and pre cog, but I'm not sure if that would be enough to overcome Ulquiorra's raw DC.

Katakuri wins in a good fight

Damn. Are one piece characters slowly becoming more powerful than bleach characters as well?

Ulquiora blitzes and fires a lanza at close range.

@stormshadow_x: Nah, I don't think they are there yet (except for physical strength, Bleach barely has any feats for that)

I'd say Luffy is still at 1-4 Espada Level, likely will be Bankai Kenpachi-Post RG Byakuya level at EOS.

OT: Katakuri doesn't have enough firepower to put Ulquiorra down for good, the regen Ulquiorra has is too much. Since this is bloodlusted Ulquiorra could just spam Cero Oscuras. I'd take Ulquiorra for the majority.

@coolguy18: Katakuri can see the future so he will know what ulquiorra will do before he does. And he can’t fire at close range cause he will get caught in the blast too and he said it himself, Lanza is a far range attack

@stormshadow_x: Maybe

Katakuri speedblitzes. Katakuris Mole attack should do the trick

How does katakuri speed blitz?

@skysanji: Exactly plus he can see into the future and know what he will do

Is katakuri really that much faster than ulquiorra. I was backing Ulquiorra when i first saw the topic

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Katakuri. Superior speed and precog means he's not getting tagged by any of Ulquiorra's Cero's and Ulquiorra doesn't have the blunt force durability feats to tank a flurry of Armament Haki enhanced mochi fists. Ulquiorra's best bet would be to spam Lanza's but considering the fight takes place in Mirror World, which isn't really that wide or spacious, it would most likely backfire and vaporise himself as well.

Still Ulquiorra

When people say katakuri pre cog matters but don't bring up the fact that he got punched by luffy lol but if it's yhwach pre cog they say he can't dodge an arrow XD

Still Katakuri

Probably Katakuri.

Emoquiorra has far too much DC. His Llanza which he can spam has a power of a decent nuke, his speed is vastly superior (blitzing hollow mask Ichigo makes him crazy fast by scaling) and on top of all that he has very powerful regeneration on top of his crazy durability (in base form he shruggs benihime, black getsuga and espada level cero, damn)

@thoromdil: Katakuri will see that coming before it happens and he will either stop it or avoid it

Still Katakuri

Superior speed

And future sight? Come on now.

Lol how is katakuri even faster we need proof we are talking about the guy who blitz masked ichigo who should be mach 500 above show me katakuris speed feat oh yeah when it comes to one pieces we don't care how I've should be stronger, logia intangibility,how can he be hit those logic.

Base Ulquiorra stomps the op wank again

Ulquiorra....everyone says that ones speed is greater then the other....just a thought, how is katakuri touching a soul again? Lol.

Katakuri gets put down due reiatsu difference. gg.

@uryuishidasama:

There's no evidence Ulquiorra is Mach 500. No one in pre-timeskip Bleach has even displayed Mach 100 feats, let alone Madn 500.

@uryuishidasama: Mach 500? Nice

Pre Time skip, pre gears Luffy kicked a lightning bolt which puts him at mach 290 without gear second

Post time skip he's as fast as gear second in base

Katakuri blitzes a Post timeskip gear second Luffy

Katakuri later than blitzes gear 4th Luffy which is above gear second in speed due to the fact that Doflamingo was reacting to and blitzing Luffy in his gear second state but was getting blitzed by a Gear 4th bound man Luffy

Luffy post time skip without gears should be at way above mach 500 and Katakuri is blitzing a Post timeskip gear second and gear 4th bound man Luffy. Katakuri is also keeping up with gear 4th Snake man and even blitzes Luffy in Snake man form at one point in the fight, Snakeman is Luffy's fastest form so far.

And Katakuri has Future sight?

Katakuri blitzes.

It dependents how you look at one piece speed. Luffy lightning timed, but couldn't keep up with a 200 km/hr guy, and yes combat and travel speed are different, but one jump at lightning speed should allow Luffy to catch that dog in a few jumps. The recent dog speed feat thing was definitely stupid (though it explains why it takes everyone so long to get places lol) and it seems like PIS, but the lightning feat then could also be called PIS. With his future sight though, I do think Katakuri should definitely have the reaction speed reactions here, and would probably dominate in CQC. The fight comes down to if Ulquiorra can keep up his distance and spam ceros.

@kingguinness: That depends on you opinion of gins bankai. Ichigo with no mask was able to react to gins bankai which is said to be mach 500. R1 ulquiorra was blitzing a fully masked ichigo with ease. Add in his r2 and that puts him above mach 500 and towards mach 1000. Though This depends on whether you think gin was lying or telling the truth.

@kingguinness: @skysanji: Keep in mind Luffy couldn't catch the guy who ran away at 200 km/hr, so as long as Ulquiorra can fly away at that speed he could possibly just outrun Katakuri while firing ceros. I agree if he engages in h2h combat he would probably lose, but basic knowledge is given here, so he might go straight for a retreat, giving him the advantage.

@jatom22: Wasn't the Ichigo that fought Gin stronger than the Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra

Due to having a new Mask he got stronger

Just Like how Grimmjow was holding his own with a masked Ichigo with only one arm and in his base

Then Later Ichigo gets a New mask and beats a Ressureccions Grimmjow

They have multiple feats of doing things above 200km/h but just 1 feat and for some reason multiple feats that shit all over that should be ignored lol. People wanna downplay OP that bad?

@alextheboss:

But he can dodge a point blank explosion, he didn't catch the Gazelles guy because of Pis he has many feats that's over 200 kmh

Also Luffy didn't use gear second or 4th to go catch the Gazelle man so it still doesn't matter.

@skysanji:

he wasn't tired his shirt is completely intact.

I think each time he uses the mask he gets stronger but I don't think he gets stronger even without it. He was smacking yammy with the mask on then when it wasn't on he got smacked. SO yes each tie the mask gets stronger but that diesnt matter because he wasn't wearing it against gin when he reacted to his bankai.

also grimjow wasn't holding his own against masked ichigo he was getting stomped then they exchanged a few blows, but ichigo was going to end it then ichigos time limit passed and the tides turned.

@jatom22: No my point was that the Ichigo that fought Gin is stronger than the Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra

Case and Point :

Regular Bankai Ichigo (Pre Visored mask training) vs Base Grimmjow- Grimmjow bodies with ease

1st Mask Ichigo vs One Arm base Grimmjow- Grimmjow can keep up with him

Regular Bankai Ichigo (has the 2nd Mask but it's not activated) vs Grimmjow- They are equal

2nd Mask Ichigo vs. Ressurecion Grimmjow- Ichigo wins in an extreme diff fight.

Also Yammy did not smack Ichigo go reread chapter 379 also Ichigo wasn't even in his full Bankai outfit and without his mask is able to react to Yammy and Block his attacks:

then he gets his 3rd mask after the Ulquiorra fight so shouldn't he be stronger.

I just proved he gets stronger even without the mask.

@jatom22:

Yeah, I don't believe what Gin said at all. Gin was portrayed as a liar and a snake since his introduction and that trend stayed consistent all the way until his death. Gin flat out told Aizen that he lied about his Bankai's capabilities and it makes sense since no one in Bleach had a Mach 500 feat pre-timeskip.

PTS Bleach doesn't have Mach 100 feats? So Ichigo reacting to petals that were three times the speed of ones that fought Hypersonic characters isn't above Mach 100? TF??? Do the math people.