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Poll: Charlotte Cracker vs EMS Sasuke (30 votes)

Cracker 53%
Sasuke 47%
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Charlotte Cracker

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EMS Sasuke

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  • Fight starts 20 m apart
  • Both fighting seriously
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Sasuke stomps.

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EMS Sasuke would beat Cracker with high-diff just as luffy. Since this guy is such a tricky type of guy to fight without any water to use as support.

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Could go either way really

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#5 Omnihater  Online

Cracker fight equal with luffy G4.

He is blitzing sasuke and killing him very easy.

This sasuke is not even mountain.

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^^LOL at that last part.

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#7 Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

Scan of sasuke busting a mountain?

^-^

Or any logical Powerscaling?

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#8  Edited By Streak619  Online

@omnihater: He no-sold strike from a bloodlusted Ay who could move his body despite being weighed down by Heavy Boulder jutsu which has shown to be island level multiple times. he also shattered Madara's complete susanoo which also has several island level feats such as tanking Hirudora and the Juubi's Tenpenchii.

Sasuke's susanoo allowed him to take little damage from a TSB arm formed from half of Juubito's TSB, which no-sold 4 country vaporisers and scale above Juubito's chakra arms which tore down the hokage's large country level barrier.

Sasuke also damaged said TSB's with mostly his own power. He burned the Juubi which no-sold country vaporisers as well as Bee who merely got singed by a partial Juubi bijuu bomb, which should be around island level.

There are plenty of feats and scaling. And all of them point to Sasuke being way above mountain level.

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#9 Omnihater  Online

@streak619:

TSB? Is true seking balls? These things dont have DC, they ignore conventional durability, so u cant apply PS to those things

Tenpechii is an outlier.

Hirudora is not island.

> He no-sold strike from a bloodlusted Ay who could move his body despite being weighed down by Heavy Boulder jutsu which has shown to be island level multiple times.

What is this?

The chakra arms does not scale to the truth seking balls, thats hax, not DC.

The juubi has 0 feats of resisting high temps, so its normal for the amaterasu to burn him.

Again hachibi has 0 feats os resisting high temps, as same as juubi, is normal to the amaterasu to burn him.

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#11  Edited By Gilateen

@omnihater:

In YOUR opinion if he isn’t mountain level then what level is he at?

Plus he scales to BSM Naruto and Like @Streak619 explained to you, EMS Sasuke is mountain level.

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Craccer should dominate

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#13  Edited By Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

He does no scales to BSM.

That naruto throws a bijudama to him, an that sasuke gets evaporated.

Btw, BSM is only island via bijudamas.

His attacks, or rasengans are far away of that DC, even his durability.

Sasuke EMS is like Small city level, cuz he does not have any mountain PS or feat, that i can remember.

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#14 Streak619  Online

@streak619:

TSB? Is true seking balls? These things dont have DC,

They don’t need to. They have high attack potency.

they ignore conventional durability, so u cant apply PS to those things

I don’t think you understood the argument. Them bypassing conventional durability has nothing to do with the fact that it has immense AP/attack potency.

Tenpechii is an outlier.

If we ignore all the consistency everything is.

Hirudora is not island.

Considering it’s a destructive shockwave that dwarfed a large island, I beg to differ.

> He no-sold strike from a bloodlusted Ay who could move his body despite being weighed down by Heavy Boulder jutsu which has shown to be island level multiple times.

What is this?

Ay fought while his body was as heavy as an island. Ohnoki’s casual weight manip is island level.

The chakra arms does not scale to the truth seking balls, thats hax, not DC.

Truth seeking balls scale to chakra arms is what I said. It’s superiority is irrefutable demonstrated.

The juubi has 0 feats of resisting high temps, so its normal for the amaterasu to burn him.

It no-sold a country vaporizing bijuu bomb. Bijuu bombs are largely heat.

Not that it matters. Temp of an attack doesn’t decide whether one can tank it or not. Its AP does.

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#16  Edited By Gilateen

@omnihater:

1. yes he does scale to BSM

2. True naruto is Stronger but Sasuke would still give him a fight regardless.

3. He still scales to him.

4. His Sussano was blocking some of juubito’s attacks which are above mountain level and his Sussano arrow harmed juubi so yeah he is mountain level. And don’t even think about trying to downplay it.

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#17 Omnihater  Online

@streak619:

>They don’t need to. They have high attack potency.

No they dont have any kind of AP/DC, they ignore conventional durability.

They ignore durability, so the durability or the AP of something doesn't matter, the TBS its gonna win because they damage at the molecular level, regardless of whether they have less AP than a bijudama for example.

> I don’t think you understood the argument. Them bypassing conventional durability has nothing to do with the fact that it has immense AP/attack potency.

No, as i say, they dont have, its just hax, if u dont have molecular level durability, u are fucked, independently AP of an attack.

If we put a bijudama vs a godoudama, the last one will win, cuz the hax, no cuz the godoudama has more AP.

>If we ignore all the consistency everything is.

No, fodders with kurama chakra tanks thats

The susano of EOS sasuke, got destroyed by a mere island or large island level explosion.

>Considering it’s a destructive shockwave that dwarfed a large island, I beg to differ

The island turtle is not that big.

Prove the size and we can talk.

You dont have the size of that turtle.

> Ay fought while his body was as heavy as an island. Ohnoki’s casual weight manip is island level.

Again, size of the turtle?

Mass of the turtle?

The fact that turtle is floating, and not attached to the ground like a real island is important.

We dont know (btw), if oonoki can put the mass of an island in a person, theres no proof of that.

> Truth seeking balls scale to chakra arms is what I said. It’s superiority is irrefutable demonstrated.

No, u just mixed things unrelated, and you got wrong conclusions.

AP of chakra hands>>>>>AP TSB.

>It no-sold a country vaporizing bijuu bomb. Bijuu bombs are largely heat.

It is not the same to endure heat in a microsecond, that in more than a second, resistance to temperatures is not the same as resistance to AP.

The amaterasu has heat in more time, than a bijudama, thats why it requieres heat durability to resist that.

>Not that it matters. Temp of an attack doesn’t decide whether one can tank it or not. Its AP does.

Omegalul.

AP=/=Heat/freeze feats.

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#18  Edited By Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

1. No, he dont if we are talking about the one that can summon kurama

2. Naruto BSM>sasuke EMS, he does not had PS from naruto.

3.what attack of juubito he block?

not all attacks of him have the same Ap, thats stupid lol.

Again, the juubi does not have any feat of heat endurance, like tanking a fire attack for a long time.

Anyway, thats just scales to his amataresu, sasuke cant punch with that streght, and his attack cant do shit against the juubi.

So no, im still waiting for mountain feats...

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@streak619:

No they dont have any kind of AP/DC, they ignore conventional durability.

They ignore durability, so the durability or the AP of something doesn't matter, the TBS its gonna win because they damage at the molecular level, regardless of whether they have less AP than a bijudama for example.

That’s incomplete, considering they destroyed Susanoo and Kurama avatar by sheer force and not disintegration, same for Naruto and Minato combo. They normally disintegrate, but they can and have also struck with great force.

The susano of EOS sasuke, got destroyed by a mere island or large island level explosion.

That explosion was 2 x a large of all bijuu chakra, it’s massively above island level. He also ran out of chakra.

Prove the size and we can talk.

You dont have the size of that turtle.

Did you miss the scan I linked you demonstrating how massive the island is, on purpose?

The fact that turtle is floating, and not attached to the ground like a real island is important.

The island does not float, never has. At this point I’m wondering if we’ve read the same Naruto.

We dont know (btw), if oonoki can put the mass of an island in a person, theres no proof of that.

We do, considering that’s what the ability, y’know, does.

AP of chakra hands>>>>>AP TSB.

Considering the TSB smashed BSM Naruto back to base with pure force, whereas chakra arms got ripped apart by Naruto and couldn’t even scratch him, no.

It is not the same to endure heat in a microsecond, that in more than a second,

No one said it was. The explosion lasted a couple of seconds anyway. Since it was contained.

resistance to temperatures is not the same as resistance to AP.

Heat does damage by collisio, just like energy attacks. They’re fundamentally the same. Heat does damage by particles colliding against molecules. Energy attacks also do damage that way. It all boils down to energy.

Omegalul.

AP=/=Heat/freeze feats.

AP = heat =/= freezing attacks.

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#20 Omnihater  Online

@streak619:

>That’s incomplete, considering they destroyed Susanoo and Kurama avatar by sheer force and not disintegration, same for Naruto and Minato combo. They normally disintegrate, but they can and have also struck with great force.

No, the godoudamas can denied chakra, thats why he "destroyed" the avatar.

>That explosion was 2 x a large of all bijuu chakra, it’s massively above island level. He also ran out of chakra.

U know that large island level or island are from 4 gigaton to 1 teraton?

proves that it exceeds the teraton in power

> Did you miss the scan I linked you demonstrating how massive the island is, on purpose

For me, its not masive

Talk me about numbers.

Again size of the island?

Mass of the turtle?

>The island does not float, never has. At this point I’m wondering if we’ve read the same Naruto.

The island turtle is floating in the water, lol

Its no attached to the ground, like a real island.

>We do, considering that’s what the ability, y’know, does.

His ability is weight control.

Not "put island weight in a person"

Again, prove me that he can put that mass in person.

>Considering the TSB smashed BSM Naruto back to base with pure force, whereas chakra arms got ripped apart by Naruto and couldn’t even scratch him, no.

Wtf u are talking about.

Put scans.

>No one said it was. The explosion lasted a couple of seconds anyway. Since it was contained.

All bijudamas heat duration is only in microseconds, no more than a second.

>Heat does damage by collisio, just like energy attacks. They’re fundamentally the same. Heat does damage by particles colliding against molecules. Energy attacks also do damage that way. It all boils down to energy.

Again, no u can resist an attack with X AP, it does no mean u can endurance a certain temp during several seconds.

Cuz the timeframe.

>AP = heat =/= freezing attacks

No, u are wrong.

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@omnihater: @omnihater:

1. I just said BSM Naruto>>EMS Sasuke, but still scales to him.

2. He Blocked TSB’s

3. It’s still a feat for his Sussano

4. If he is small city level(which he isn’t) then why isn’t this thread locked? And why is the poll in his favor?

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#22 Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

1.If it is Naruto BSM>EMS sasuke by u words, it does not scales anything from him.

2.sasuke only block TSB cuz the senjutsu of his susano, btw as i say, TSB has no AP, so thats no a AP feat or durability feat for sasuke.

3. What attack of juubito he blocked?

Juubito is like much stronger than sasuke EMS, stop making PS from his attack, i does not make sense.

Sasuke cant take anything from juubito, he will die in a instant.

4. because people are ignorant (especially the naruto fans who give their characters a crazy country, when they have never destroye a country, something like 1000km or more, and the closest thing to that is the juubi tenpechii, which by the way has quite a lot of things against it and the juubidamas that disintegrate anyone from naruto-verse, so nobody has PS from those attack).

I'm new, in this forum, because I come from another forum, and the naruto wank here is awesome.

Nobody gives Sasuke EMS Island Level in his right judgment, hopefully they give him Big City Level, cuz Sasuke does not have feats that justify the level they want to give him.

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#23  Edited By Raziel2014

cracker wins due to DF, he can easily overwhelm sasuke Susanoo with Dozens of Cracker soldiers comparable to or stronger than G3 Luffy, once sasuke stamina/charkra is drain and he losses Susanoo Defense and offensive power any of the cracker soldiers can easily one shot him and unlike Edo Madara and Naruto sasuke does not posses infinite charkra so he cant create Clones + Susanoo to match dozens of crackers also unlike cracker sasuke cannot fight at full power for long any jutsu he uses would drain his charkra reserves and in less than 10 mins he would become a fodder while cracker can fight for days if not weeks if he wanted too.

EMS sasuke via his Susanoo is atleast Large town level/Kirin Level to City Level at best./TBB of 1-7

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Why are you guys talking about DC and AP when you should be looking at hax ?

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#25  Edited By Yray

And the naruto wank continues

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No way in hell sasuke is beating 100+ mhs near gear 4 physical biscuit soldiers

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@omnihater: He no-sold strike from a bloodlusted Ay who could move his body despite being weighed down by Heavy Boulder jutsu which has shown to be island level multiple times. he also shattered Madara's complete susanoo which also has several island level feats such as tanking Hirudora and the Juubi's Tenpenchii.

If I got that right, so the 4th Raikage is basically island lvl in physicals?

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#28 Omnihater  Online

@shirso:

There is no evidence that he can do that, it is never said, nor is it understood.

it just makes Ai heavier, but it is unknown how much.

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#29  Edited By Gilateen

@omnihater:

1. He blocked his TSB’s with his Sussano arm(no Senjutsu enhanced) just in case you don’t remember.

2. True but the same goes for every other people who wank their favorite verse to a random level.

3. Yes, I can tell you are new and so far you have only seen probably naruto wank, just wait till you see wanks from other verses.

4. It’s stupid to say he is small city level(which isn’t true and we all know it), if that’s the case then what level is Rinnegan Sasuke?

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#30  Edited By ourmanuel

This mental ninja just scaled Ay to island level striking......and then EMS sasuke to country+ durability

Like does watching anime make you dudes go stupid or is that just the inherent weeb nature?

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#31  Edited By Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

Again, EMS susano has like senjutsu, so thats why he blocked that, u can touch godoudamas with senjutsu.

And if that is not the case, again, TSB dont have any imppresive AP feats, they ignore conventional durability, and they negate any chakra being (that uncludes kuramas CM and susanos without senjutsu), so even if he take that (thats incoherent, cuz sasuke should be desintegrated) thats no a mountain level feat, it just a molecular/atomic resistence feat.

It not stupid to say sasuke is just small city level or city level, as i say, he does not have any mountain AP feats.

And he does not get PS from bijudamas of naruto, which are the island ones, no naruto by himself.

Sasuke rikudo does have REAL feats, he cut juudara in two, even when a Lava RS could not do that.

And with his susano he cut like giant CT that dwarfed multiples mountains.

That sasuke is the real island/large island one, not EMS.

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Lol@ island lvl raikage and country lvl EMS sasuke

Leave it to streak to scale Naruto characters out of massive proportions

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#33  Edited By Streak619  Online

@omnihater:

No, the Gudoudama can denied chakra

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Not even worth a response anymore.

@shirso said:
@streak619 said:

@omnihater: He no-sold strike from a bloodlusted Ay who could move his body despite being weighed down by Heavy Boulder jutsu which has shown to be island level multiple times. he also shattered Madara's complete susanoo which also has several island level feats such as tanking Hirudora and the Juubi's Tenpenchii.

If I got that right, so the 4th Raikage is basically island lvl in physicals?

Unless moving an island massed body implies something else, yes, that is the only inference.

@ourmanuel said:

This mental ninja just scaled Ay to island level striking......and then EMS sasuke to country+ durability

Hardly, if you actually read what I said, Susanoo managed to protect him from an attack of that durability, but it itself got destroyed completely in the process.

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Sasuke should win.

First, the sharingan let him predicts where Cracker will attack. he could also trap him in Genjutsu while his Amaterasu burn him or his Kirin pulverized him.

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Abusing powerscalle always lead to problems.

However certain fandons only complain when others do, when it is to defend their favorite verse then powerscalle is acceptable, typical double standard.

One piece without powerscalle and outlier feats has a very low average speed but fans of the OP always ignore it, and abuse powerscalle!

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Cracker gives Sasuke an extremely tough fight, but I can't see him winning. Mostly because he has an extremely solid way of getting rid of his Amaterasu

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#37  Edited By Gilateen

Still could go either way.

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Lol at sasuke scaling to BM naruto let alone BSM.

Cracker mid diff at worst he can just spam clones on the level of gear 4 luffy

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#39  Edited By Streak619  Online

Cracker would need some incredible firepower considering Sasuke’s Susanoo prevented him from taking any damage from a full power throw from TSB arms;

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Juubito’s TSB are >> his chakra arms considering Naruto and Minato managed to lol-block and rip apart all 9 chakra arms like they were paper, as shown in red;

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Even though Naruto and Minato are able to fodderiseall of the chakra arms, the TSB still sends both of them and their combined attack flying.

Which is insane because 4 of those chakra arms were able to destroy a country busting level barrier. Clearly, tanking an attack from half of those TSBs with practically no damage is an incredible feat. Sasuke also managed to chip at them, which is also equally impressive.

Frankly, I haven’t seen a single feat that suggests Sasuke doesn’t demolish Cracker.

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Lol at sasuke scaling to BM naruto let alone BSM.

Cracker mid diff at worst he can just spam clones on the level of gear 4 luffy

They took equal damage from equal attacks;

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They inflicted equal damage on the same target;

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Moved equally fast against the same opponent;

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Sasuke’s heat burned a character who tanked an island bijuu bomb to the face point blank with a few burns, and after he got his EMS, contributed atleast half the power to burn the Juubi, who no-sold a country vaporiser. That speaks volumes of the tier his Amaterasu operates in. Other than Juubi jins and Kaguya, tanking Amaterasu was suicide unless you could get rid of whatever part was being burnt.

Not sure why it comes as such a surprise, tbh.

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@streak619: 1. You are being very misleading in you post. Obito grabbed naruto and sasuke avatar with the TSB and slammed them into the ground. They have 0 strength enhancing feats and were only used to prevent naruto and sasuke from moving. The force of him fly down is what caused the damage not the TSB.

2. Naruto and minato deflected the chakra arms nothing more.

3. The attack caused both them and obito to go flying back

4. They both inflicted 0 damage on the TSB. Saying they dealt the same amount of damage from that is ludicrous as we don't know how much damage either one did

5. They are fighting as a team therefore they need to sync up there attacks in order to effectively battle obito

6. Tanking a BB doesn't grant heat resistance. The 10 tails has no heat resistance and his amaterasu was empowered by rasenshuriken meaning it was far stronger than it would normally be.

7. The juubi and hachibi are the only characters to scream from amaterasu. The raikage, karin, madara, kabuto etc were all fone after getting hit amaterasu or being mere inches away from it and they never once even said it was hot. The most they had was an annoyed look

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Probably Cacker, as his fighting style counters Sasuke’s not so great stamina, amaterasu, and genjutsu. If Sasuke has knowledge, then I might side with him.

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#42 Omnihater  Online

@streak619:

>Not even worth a response anymore.

https://i.imgur.com/ZCQfPOU.png

Lol, did you read naruto?

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Streak is a genius

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@streak619: question, maybe I’m misremembering as it’s been forever since I watched naruto but weren’t those feats presented for sasukes sussano done with the amp from jugo?

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#45  Edited By Gilateen

@omnihater:

1. Did I mention his Sussano also sliced a part of the divine tree?

2. Tbh your PROBABLY the only one saying EMS Sasuke is small city level, which is wrong. Slicing part of the divine tree, blocking TSB’s, keeping up with Juubito, and scaling to BM naruto is enough to be mountain level.

3. plus you forgot about mountain level kirin so....

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#46 Streak619  Online

@streak619:

>Not even worth a response anymore.

https://i.imgur.com/ZCQfPOU.png

Lol, did you read naruto?

"Nullifying ninjutsu" and

can denied chakra

Are 2 very different things my friend.

@streak619: They have 0 strength enhancing feats and were only used to prevent naruto and sasuke from moving.

They didn't amp his strength. They applied force on the two as well.

The force of him fly down is what caused the damage not the TSB.

Yes, but that force came from both Obito and his TSB.

2. Naruto and minato deflected the chakra arms nothing more.

Obito attacked them with his chakra arms and they flicked it away.

3. The attack caused both them and obito to go flying back.

Your point being? How does this contradict the fact that TSBs performance against the two was far superior than the chakra arms'?

4. They both inflicted 0 damage on the TSB.

Perhaps read scans better next time;

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Unless those black pieces are my imagination.

They are fighting as a team therefore they need to sync up there attacks in order to effectively battle obito.

??? And? This disproves them clearly being equally fast in that scan because? Syncing attacks equalises speed? Am I missing something?

6. Tanking a BB doesn't grant heat resistance.

Except for the part where we see TBB explosions leave behind smoke erupting from the remains? Something that implies heat?

Not that it matters. AP is all that matters. Heat is just kinetic collision, which is generally what most attacks are.

Or do you think someone who tanked a universe busting TBB would get oneshotted by a flamethrower?

10 tails has no heat resistance and his amaterasu was empowered by rasenshuriken meaning it was far stronger than it would normally be.

Not 'far', about twice.Sasuke matched Naruto's chakra levels when delivering that attack, hence, twice.

7. The juubi and hachibi are the only characters to scream from amaterasu.

Okay...? Does this change the fact that they were burnt?

The raikage,

Was covered by an armour of chakra and cut his arm of before the flames burnt his actual flesh

By karin

Who was unconscious

Madara

Whose actual body was not touched by Amaterasu

kabuto

Whose main body was never hit by Amaterasu.

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@streak619: question, maybe I’m misremembering as it’s been forever since I watched naruto but weren’t those feats presented for sasukes sussano done with the amp from jugo?

Yes. Juugo merged his senjutsu chakra with Sasuke's susanno. The only reason I'm proceeding as if this is negligible is because, well, it is negligible. Juugo's amp is irrelevantly weak to Naruto top tiers. The reason Sasuke even took the amp was because without some senjutsu chakra in his attacks, his jutsu would be nullified completely.

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Even the likes of base Hebi Sasuke is a tier above Juugo.

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#48  Edited By Mee09

@streak619: Well hold up now. That was a MUCH weaker Jugo than what we have now. He's even signicantly weaker than he was at the 5 Kage Summit. Plus Hebi Sasuke was notoriously overconfident. I think he could kill Jugo. As Hebi Sasuke did defeat Deidara (Although this is only because Sasuke's jutsu countered him. Just like Sasuke's Jutsu counters Suigetsu) I think he COULD defeat even current Jugo. But current Jugo would almost kill him if not outright beat him. Current Jugo fought a Jonin Konohamoru and did far better than one of The Six Paths of Pain that Konohamoru killed as a child with a much weaker Rasengan than the one Jugo tanked and was fine all things considered. Comicvine as it is right now won't admit it. But Cracker would actually have some difficulty defeating a full power current Jugo that isn't jobbing to make Sasuke look better.

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#49 Omnihater  Online

@gilateen:

>Did I mention his Sussano also sliced a part of the divine tree?

https://m.imgur.com/MPMyxIi?r

Yes neji and hinata did something like that too, they pushed away the hands of the juubi, so hinata and neji are island or mountain? Nope.

Anyway, that does no mean anything is just a mere part of juubi, no the juubi himself.

If u are talking about that feat.

>2. Tbh your PROBABLY the only one saying EMS Sasuke is small city level, which is wrong. Slicing part of the divine tree, blocking TSB’s, keeping up with Juubito, and scaling to BM naruto is enough to be mountain level.

Slicing part of juubi is not that great, even tobirama could do that.

These characters are shit to the juubi, and the juubi does not have any decent slicing endurance feats that i can remember.

I explain the feat of the TSB, a how it works, not at AP feat, or durability feat, is just molecular resistence due senjutsu.

Keeping up with juubito is not a feat, just plot, luffy keep up with fujitora and luffy does not scales to him.

He does not scales to BSM naruto, as i say, he is weaker.

I just a fact, he does not have any mountain level feat, we cant give powerleves without real proof.

>plus you forgot about mountain level kirin so....

The kirin is small mountain, and he only has that AP with the kirin, he cant do another attacks with that power.

Naruto is not dragon ball.

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#50 Omnihater  Online

@streak619:

> "Nullifying ninjutsu" and

Ninjutsu is chakra...anyway, thats not the point.