Chaos King VS The Great Evil Beast

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GEB is on TOOA'S level, He takes this.

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#4  Edited By King Saturn
probably The Great Evil Beast
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#5  Edited By OmegaDynasty
@King Saturn said:
probably The Great Evil Beast
Yep.  
GEB ask him what he is. He gets it wrong and spits him out.  
GEB reminds me of the troll from Monty Python.  
 
  
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#6  Edited By daak1212
@crash_ said:
GEB is on TOOA'S level, He takes this.
Not even.  He's tied with a multiversal being.
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@King Saturn said:
probably The Great Evil Beast
@OmegaDynasty said:
@King Saturn said:
probably The Great Evil Beast
Yep.  
GEB ask him what he is. He gets it wrong and spits him out.  
GEB reminds me of the troll from Monty Python.  
 
  
You guys have some pretty awesome avatars ^_^
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#8  Edited By Saren

Chaos King exists independent of creation as well, if that's why you're saying GEB is on TOAA's level.

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Chaos King, just to be different.
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@crash_: No, GEB is not Supreme Being level. He was the Supreme Being before the existence of the DC Actuality. Chaos King was the Supreme Being before the existence of the Marvel Multiverse. Apparently he wasn't the void before the New Universe and the Ultraverse (which in my opinion it was bad writing because there was only one Big Bang that spanned the Marvel Omniverse). 
 
That was the reason because GEB was portrayed as being above everyone except God himself. People tend to misunderstand the storyline and put GEB as equal to The Presence, but yes, Great Evil Beast is more powerful than even Michael and Lucifer. 
 
Chaos King was above the abstracts but not that high. Apparently, he was not above Mad Jim Jaspers, Infinity Gauntlet and the Living Tribunal. 
 
Great Evil Beast for the win.

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#11  Edited By Enzeru--defunct

The One Above All = The Presence
The Living Tribunal = The Great Evil Beast 
 
... in terms of power? D:

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#12  Edited By Saren

@Enzeru said:

The One Above All = The Presence The Living Tribunal = The Great Evil Beast ... in terms of power? D:

The Presence and GEB are essentially equals. I created the topic because Chaos King exists independent of Creation.

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Spite thread.

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#14  Edited By TheSpiritStalker

that chaos king pic looks awesome but he dies

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Great evil beast lacks feats so I say chaos king.

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@stoic: was as powerful as the prescence and he had to merge with GEB to stop him. That alone is above chaos king

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GEB curbstomps. Chaos King is 100 times cooler though.

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Chaos king=GEB

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#19  Edited By Mr_Ingenuity

You can lock this now.

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Why the bump?

GEB stalemating the Presence is better than anything CK has done.

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@bronze_surfer: Chaos King = Dark side of Eternity

Either way the Great Evil Beast stomps

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#23  Edited By GhostRavage

A supposed omnipotent getting stalemated by another person makes the supposed omnipotent non-omnipotent. Therefore...

TOAA>Presence = Writer's Entity>Character that gets stalemated.

I think its quite obvious who is indeed the omnipotent being between these 2.

That being said, does GEB even have feats? Chaos King conquered 98% of the Marvel Universe IIRC.

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@bronze_surfer: I meant Marvel Universe as MarvelVerse, which includes infinite Multiverses. Marvel as whole to be precise.

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@ghostravage: @bronze_surfer:

GEB=Multiverses before

CK=Multiverses before

Marvel not only have Multiverses,but ME,OM

So,marvel>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DC god

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#29  Edited By beatboks1

A supposed omnipotent getting stalemated by another person makes the supposed omnipotent non-omnipotent. Therefore...

It's not really as simple as that. The set up at DC is the old line that evil cannot exist without good and vice versa. Either the Presence or the GEB have the power to destroy each other but to do so they would also destroy themselves and everything else. When the GEB is wakened not knowing who or what it is it is instructed by entities like Spectre, Fate and Etrigan about evil and vengeance, and wants to strike at heaven to learn the truth. The Swamp thing then tells it that both evil and good are necessary for each to exist there must be the other. The presence opens his arms to the GEB and GEB responds in kind forming a yin/yang. GEB and the Presence are simply opposite sides of the same coin. Beings like Shade, Ian Karkul and Obsidian get their power from the dark realms of the GEB which is why with even a miniscule amount of that power they can solo so many DC heroes.

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#30  Edited By GhostRavage

@powerwoman: At least in the Cosmic food chain Marvel's got the lead.

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@beatboks1: An omnipotent being doesn't have any other being that could destroy him and it's not dependent of any other being. Presence and GEB are 2 different beings that are part of the same coin... While TOAA is the whole coin.

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@beatboks1: An omnipotent being doesn't have any other being that could destroy him and it's not dependent of any other being. Presence and GEB are 2 different beings that are part of the same coin... While TOAA is the whole coin.

I may ahve mistated, they could destroy themselves and their non existence would cause the non existence of the other.

Marvel too has several "omnipotents" stated on panel to be equal to TOAA, like Beyonder and HOTU. The Living Tribunal has also been stated on panel to be Omnipotent too.

It's even stated in Marvel's own database that Omnipotence defies logic that an Omnipotent can create a weight so great that even they can't lift it yet they can.

The actual definition of omnipotent is to have unlimited power. If one had unlimited power one could destroy another of unlimited power unless that "unlimited power was set to not be destroyed. You simply can't apply standard logic to the idea of omnipotence because it doesn't work. Logic by it's nature undermines the concept. If a character in any fictional universe is stated to be omnipotent than it is equal to any other character from any other universe stated to be the same because UNLIMITED means no limit, therefore no matter what feats they display we haven't seen the limit to what they are capable of as there is non.

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@beatboks1: The problem with TOAA is the fact he's not only omnipotent, but he's the Writer's Entity in the comic book. That is greater than all the supposed omnipotent beings in Marvel all put together.

That being said, Kosmos, Beyonder and HOTU have statements to be omnipotents, they also answer to the Living Tribunal's power, which has confirmed the existence of an even more powerful being than him, in this case is TOAA, hence the name.

Also, Killemall has an explanation why Thanos managed to absorb the Living Tribunal, Eternity and Infinity into himself. Supposedly TOAA tricked him into do it, by letting him tap into his power. So basically, Thanos became the writer's entity himself in the issue, therefore, truly omnipotent as far as a comic book goes.

@killemall Am i right mate?

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Nice. I think CK.

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#36  Edited By lol

@saren: You can lock this now? This is a spite thread even if you say it isn't