Challenge a Viner (CaV)

@valorknight: Jace (blue one) is a telepath. He can cast massive illusions, read minds, counter magic, turn minds to jelly, and summon drakes to fight by his side.

Chandra (Red one) is a pyromancer. She is basically a fire manipulator who is immune to fire/heat, and she can summon fire elementals

Gideon (white one) is the battle mage. He specializes in invulnerability magic. He can cover his skin in a shield of invulnerability which has withstood nuke-esk army destroying explosions. But it can be bypassed by a faster/more skilled fighter. He has mountain level strength and is a master martial artist

Nissa (Green) is the animist. Basically her whole deal is animating the earth to fight by her side so she brings a lot of earth elemental. She also has a pretty dope magical sword

Very cool characters. You should look them up

@manaman: Not as cool as the old-walkers.

@manaman: are they the only characters you use in CAVS ?

@smxlr8: them and EU Star Wars characters

@manaman: oh ok was hoping for something different but oh well

@valorknight: I’m look for particular fights at the moment

Also what is that supposed to mean

Still looking to do a cav with FNF Trio. I'd also be interested in using Namek Frieza or Byakuya in a cav

I'm interested in doing a CaV with Composite Goku (Anime/Manga).

I would use composite Mysterio, but he'd stomp Goku anyway, so rip

Hakai :)

Bruh, have you even seen my multiple RT's on him, where I go every small thing with what each incarnation of Mysterio can do in detail with evidence and scans?

Check them out. You may be surprised by what exactly you find. You can find them on my bio with the rest of what I've done.

Z Goku or Super Goku? Cos I could use a Toriko character for Z Goku but Super is probably (definitely) too much for any Toriko character.

That's why one of them was rewarded as the best quality RT out of a good week's full of them, and the other ones have also gotten pretty good judgements as well from high standing users.

Face it, you likely read my obviously joke RT that I wrote up as a meme and more or less skimmed through the rest, if you even gave them a read.

Either way, I don't think you should be so disrespectful, considering long term RT's (such as Berkhart) take a crap ton of research, editing, and writing to create. Whether you think of the character, being rude isn't exactly going to change anyone's mind, and it paints you out to be rather petty in comparison, smh.

I know it is your opinion, but try actually being constructive and giving me ways to, you know, improve? You saying "they really dumb" does little old me no favours.

@maestromage: Super Goku.

@diarrhearegatta: How good is Mysterio at prep?

Based on my research, he's surprisingly good at planning out and using technology to fool his foes, such as robotic bats that explode full of hallucinogenic material, gas that can disable super powers, and holographic drones that can project images of anything to anywhere, as well as standard stuff like holograms, thick mist, and a bundle of androids.

His prep feats of him perfectly fooling top tier telepaths like X-Man for months, as well as Spider-Man multiple times (despite his enhanced senses, his illusions are so real that it fools even him) so he's clearly quite good at dealing with people with prep, considering the above and the rest of his technology and illusion stuff.

@diarrhearegatta: I was thinking of challenging you to a prep battle but i think it might be unfair in my favor considering Mysterio uses robotics and Tezzeret (the guy i was thinking of using) main power is manipulating metal.

I thought it was cool because it's a real mage vs an imitation magician.

Tezzeret is a prep lord character, but his most insane showings have been when he has had access to insanely rare resources that he typically doesn't have so obviously he can't do those crazy things.

Heres his RT if you want to think about it.

@manaman: Yeah, I had a look at his RT (which is very clear and readable, thankfully) and yeah, I'll have to pass. 99.9% of Beck's prep is purely robotics or some form of metal involved.

As far as I'm concerned, he's a hard counter to any of Mysterio's prep (apart from some gas stuff) and would just rip up all of his prep with little trouble. I could halfass something using Mysterio's hypnosis as it was able to control high rank telepaths in the past, but then it really wouldn't be a prep battle, and it'd be kinda boring. Thanks for the offer through.

@diarrhearegatta: just curious what are Mysterio stats?

In terms of what? Strength? Speed?

would anyone be using or want to use shego from kim possible in the future , I have a character I would like to try aganist her

@diarrhearegatta: yeah attack potency, durability and speed.

Attack potency: Mysterio in general can't hit fast but he can fire lightning bolts and had access to a ray gun that fired at lightspeed, according to the author. Usually his offence is using energy blasts while spaming holograms while automatically dispersing gas at the same time from the suit. He did manage to hit Spider-Man a few times before he could dodge through.

Durability: Above the standard person. He took multiple punches from a bloodlusted Daredevil, takes shots regularly from Spider-Man without much trouble. Mysterio doesn't rely on getting hit through.

Speed: Not fast, but he has gear like hoverboards that can move faster than cars, and his gadgets and illusions make him seem faster than usual. His thick gas and spring boots mean that he looks fast, but isn't really, he's about as fast as a normal person on foot.

@diarrhearegatta: What would you think about Mysterio vs a force wielder? I have plenty that i can represent of varying levels of power.

Anyone want to take on a planeswalker?

Does anyone have plans to do a team CAV

@valorknight: most of them are mid tiers.

Low mid:

Dack Fayden (Very versatile Large building buster)

Chandra Nalaar (Large Building buster and one of my favorites)

Mid:

Sorin Markov: (Sonic speed vampire with a crazy healing factor TP and a one shotter sword)

Gideon Jura: (pretty straight forward mountain level brick)

Ob Nixilis (Mountain level brick with decent TP and ranged attacks)

Tezzeret (Genius prep master. Very versatile. Manipulates metal so he's a hard counter to alot of characters)

High mid:

Kiora: (Underwater character like Namor, Mera, or Aquaman. Summons massive armies of massive sea monsters, and she once threw and entire sea as an attack. Her physical stats are nearly non existent tho)

Herald: Nicol Bolas ( One of the most hax characters on the forums. Tp, soul manipulation, time manipulation, TK, intangibility, you name it hes got it. His endurance and speed are very very low for his tier. Most herald tiers will either one shot or speed blitz so he usually comes with stipulations)

Someone wants a CaV between the Otsutsuki Clan vs The Sternritters ?

• No Knowledge
• Reiatsu=Chakra
• Manga/Canon Feats for Kaguya
• Movie Feats for Toneri obviously
• And Manga/Anime feats for Momoshiki
• Yhwach with Almigthy
• To avoid assumptions he is allowed to absorb the Sternritters's powers but is not allowed to use their individual abilities

Are you up for a street level amalgam CaV?

Someone also wants a CaV between DMS Kakashi vs Merged Hollow Ichigo ?

@valorknight: Actually, let's do Kaneki vs Afro Samurai

@valorknight: it would be a very random looking match but Chandra Nalaar is on his level.

@valorknight: For who?

If anyone is interested in this tourney let me know...I'm looking for:

• Experienced Debaters for judges
• Newbie Debaters

The First-Timer Tourney

@valorknight: how well would he do against magic that causes people to rapidly decay, and a sword that causes rapid decay when it cuts?

i'll be up for it if you are.

@rikuyamaha: Okay :) I pretend to create the thread in the next weeks, but I don't pretend to create now.

lol ok? im guessing you'll go with the Otsutsuki Clan yes?

@rikuyamaha: Yep.