Challenge a Viner (CaV)

@rac95: He consistently performs at Mid tier, but you could say he's a high tier depending on how you quantify his showings.

@amethystgravity: You sure you don't wanna CaV me? Cause I think this'll give me the opportunity to address your hypersonic and mountain busting feats for Samus, which I think are both flawed.

@king-ragnar: Thanks. Guess he is too strong for what I had in mind

@dottiestmoon: I'm already CaVing someone else with Dark Samus, so no thanks, but I'm sure there's at least one thread on the subject, if you wish to do so, anyways!

Alright, I'm updating this list:

Willing to debate for:

Marvel:

• MCU War Machine
• War Machine
• Gamora
• Nightcrawler

DC:

• CW Deathstroke (no Mirakuru)
• New-52 Green Arrow

Star Wars:

• TCW Ahsoka Tano (just canon)
• TCW Commander Cody
• TCW Embo
• TCW Fives
• Rebels Sabine Wren
• EU IG-88

Other:

• The Transporter (Jason Statham)

Note: My final semester of college is coming up, so this CaV may be a little slow-going.

@fetts: Captain Britain (Psylocke) vs War machine or Gamora if you want (Her respect thread)

@fetts: where would you rank 616 war machine?

@stormshadow_x: I was just catching up on some War Machine. At this point, I'd rank him pretty high on my list. I'd say War Machine, CW Deathstroke, Gamora, Ahsoka Tano, and The Transporter rank among my top.

Hey anyone would like to CaV me ? I would like to rep Geralt of Rivia From the Netflix show , if anyone have a interesting match to prupose.

@fetts: would you like to put gamora against DCs Artemis the Amazon?

• Yujiro Hanma (Mid tier, arguably high)
• Samurai Jack (High Street, low mid)
• Wesley Snipes Blade (LA Super Soldier level)

@stormshadow_x:I think that'd be an unfair fight in Gamora's favor.

@psi-bite234 I'd be happy to do Psylocke vs. War Machine!

@fetts: personally disagree, especially if given her gear during her time as wonder Woman that increased her physicals. Why exactly do you think it would unfair?

@fetts: But with her current status as Captain Britain (Which gives her superhuman physicals)

You can make the thread if you want lol

Excellent! To what level would you say Captain Britain's physicals are?

@stormshadow_x This must be an update I'm not familiar with. From what I know of DC Artemis, she's hopelessly outclassed in skill. Gamora is like the secret Midnighter of the Marvel Universe.

@stormshadow_x:

DCs Artemis the Amazon

What are her stats like? I might have a matchup in mind.

@king-ragnar: without her WW gear ( which she only used in a few stories back in the 90s) she's low mid or high street.

@fetts: About 90 tons and Staggered the likes of Iron man/Thor/Hulk. Also have tanked attacks from Binary/Thor and classic Iron man

@psi-bite234: Cool! Thread is here.

@sazzmi: from your list here are the things that interest me, tell me more about ones not marked

• Almost any Kamen Rider-Some Hax. Live-Action franchise. Can match nearly any thematic setting/tier.
• JoJo characters- Pretty good hax. Pretty popular these days. Manga peeps.
• Ultraman Zero- Giant alien. High tier dude. Herald/Team buster tier give or take. Kinda a brick. Live-action guy
• Composite Garo- Guy in armor. Mid-tier dude. Multi-City Block in base forms. Some light hax. Live-Action/Anime.
• Moon Knight- Like Batman but Marvel and cooler imo. Comic dude.
• Composite Micheal Jackson- It's MJ. Music Videos/Video Game. High Street Tier
• Bayonetta- Magic Sex Lady. High tier with some good hax. Video Game girl
• Hawk Man- Bird dude. Post Crisis/N52. Like low mid-tier. Nth metal is kinda hax tbh. Comics man.
• Black Cat- Catwoman kinda. Luck Powers. Streetish tier
• Shadowpact-Best obscure superhero team. No contest. Mid-Low high tiers
• Plastic Man- Rubber dude. Post Crisis/Rebirth. Solid mid-tier. Somewhat hax ngl. Comic man.
• John Constantine- Magic Prep Dude. Composite Canon. Uhhhh Super Potent magics. Street tier physicals. Comic man.
• Manga Ultramen-Robot suit dudes. Like building level. Manga men.

@smxlr8: So Moon Knight, Black Cat, Hawkman, Shadowpact, and Ultraman.

What exactly would you like to know about them? As for Shadowpact, I'll be using the lineup of Blue Devil, Detective Chimp, Nightshade, Ragman, Nightmaster, and Warlock's Daughter.

@sazzmi: stats? Also for the team I’m a little confused on the level you put them in , is mid level but on a low tier or high street- low mid level?

@sazzmi: scorpion (MK) vs hawk man?

I wanna rep the MCU armies from my post on this thread (basically Atlantis w/ Aquabro and Mera + Amazons w/ Diana + Parademons w/ Steppenwolf vs full Wakandan forces w/ T'Challa + House Party Protocol w/ Stark + full Asgardian forces w/ Sif + army of ants w/ Wasp + sorcerer army w/ Strange).

Am willing to remove an army from MCU side to balance things out, and we can swap to more/less powerful generals if need be. So long as we have prep and knowledge or a way to attain knowledge, I'm golden.

Really, I'm down for any kind of fair army battle with prep. Other possible armies from the MCU to add to the mix include Dark Elves, Nova forces, Chitauri, Ultron bots, maybe Sakaarans w/ necrocraft, maybe Hammer Drones, HYDRA, SHIELD, Frost Giants, the giant-ass Thanos army, just Outriders, possibly more.

DCEU doesn't have any others. Amazons, Atlanteans, Parademons. Kryptonians too OP tho. I'm willing to do MCU vs MCU.

Also anyone wanting to use Atlantean armies, I'm willing to stipulate that any non-organism ships will function above water exactly as they do below water.

In terms of 1v1s, I wanna use Percy Jackson. FTE/blur speed feats without scaling, mach-ish level combat speed with scaling. Insane pain tolerance, decently durable, skilled swordsman, water powers (decent AoE, rapid activation, personal mini-hurricanes that surround him in fight, can cause huge waves, being in water grants him healing factor/speed and strength amps, etc).

@king-ragnar: Snipes’s Blade vs. Alice (Resident Evil) melee battle? Or vs. MCU Black Panther?

@supremegeneration: just throwing it out there, not sure I would cav right now, but...

how would you feel against Sentinels from 2023 (FOX)?

Depends on the army I get to use, I wouldn't mind taking them on, though it would certainly be an uphill battle for anyone lol.

Anyone feel confident in backing Superman here?

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/dceu-superman-vs-mcu-war-machine-arm-wrestle-2062681/

@bladeoffury: it's locked

@smxlr8: I mean in a CaV

@bladeoffury: I think the thread speaks for it self

@smxlr8: It speaks that the majority believes Superman to be the winner, which is why I'm sure someone will feel confident backing him.

@supremegeneration: MCU vs DCEU army sounds interesting

anyone wish to debate Super Perfect Cell?

You interested?

@supremegeneration: I'd do it if I don't join ETs tourney.

@king-ragnar: Where would you place Yujiro's stats at? And how skilled is he?

@hittheassasin:

Where would you place Yujiro's stats at?

Mid tier, tho it can be high depending on how you quantify some of his showings.

And how skilled is he?

He's the most skilled fighter in his verse.

@king-ragnar:

Mid tier, tho it can be high depending on how you quantify some of his showings.

What qualifies as mid tier or high tier for you? Mountain level? Country level?

He's the most skilled fighter in his verse.

How would you say he compares skillwise to characters like Garou or Batman? Is he more or less skilled?

@hittheassasin:

What qualifies as mid tier or high tier for you? Mountain level? Country level?

He doesn't have country or mountain level showings, but he's basically the Superman of his verse. I.E People who can break the statue of liberty with punches and who can bench press helicopters are fodder to him. He does have other showings such as crushing coal into diamond and stopping earth quakes with punches, but then again as i said it depends on how you quantify his showings.

How would you say he compares skillwise to characters like Garou or Batman? Is he more or less skilled?

I don't have much knowledge about Garou, but he trumps Batman in skill by a large margin.

Looking for a High Tier LA All Star 2v2 CAV

Anyone interested? I'd be repping MCU Thor

@xzone: How about FOX Phoenix (Jean) without telepathy.

@sazzmi: I guess you are going to wait to do a CAV because of the High Tier tournament
How strong is the Shadowpact because I think their too weak for the team I want to use or try to use