Challenge a Viner (CaV)

@haoshoku:

Against Rayleigh and Garp specifically? I'd rather use the Admirals against those two if you're confident it'd still be fair.

I'm fine with that, only thing is that I prefer Logia Intang to be off.

@faradaysloth:

I'm fine with that, only thing is that I prefer Logia Intang to be off.

No can do. I suggested them because they're the only One Piece characters that can deal with Lanza del Relámpago while still being strong enough to contend in other ways.

Then I can't accept CaVing against the admirals because then there would be no way to defeat Kizaru lol.

@faradaysloth: I can do that tier for sure but I use obscure characters so if that's a no good then I can't help you ;)

@faradaysloth:

Then I can't accept CaVing against the admirals because then there would be no way to defeat Kizaru lol.

I can still use Luffy or Zoro, just not against anyone with energy attacks like what Ulquiorra is packing. I can also use Enel of you have anyone for him.

Toshiro then?

I'm fine with that, though it could be a little tougher, I'd like to expand my knowledge on other characters :)

@faradaysloth:

Toshiro then?

Against Luffy? I'd honestly be fine with that so long as it isn't his adult form.

Toshiro & Kenny vs Luffy & Zoro.

Toshiro only goes into adult form if his petals melt.

@faradaysloth:

Toshiro & Kenny vs Luffy & Zoro

How much knowledge do our characters get on one another?

Toshiro only goes into adult form if his petals melt

Yeah, I'm fully aware. I honestly don't think this'll be a debate point, as the fight probably won't last long enough for that to happen.

Basic Knowledge fine?

It's a debate point nevertheless, the battle is after all hypothetical.

@faradaysloth:

Basic Knowledge fine?

Yeah, that's alright with me.

It's a debate point nevertheless, the battle is after all hypothetical

It'd make the fight unfair, though. If he can flash freeze with a wave of his hand, neither of my characters are beating him in character.

@haoshoku:

It'd make the fight unfair, though. If he can flash freeze with a wave of his hand, neither of my characters are beating him in character.

I mean, you could just argue they'd beat him before the Petals fall. I can give you Full Knowledge if you want so they could go after Shiro first.

@alextheboss Didn't we set up an Estarossa vs Gerard (Miracle limited to five times) CaV? Wanna do it again?

@faradaysloth:

I mean, you could just argue they'd beat him before the Petals fall

Fair enough I suppose.

I can give you Full Knowledge if you want so they could go after Shiro first

No, it's fine. I'm sure they won't be lollygagging so much that it becomes a problem during the fight. If you want to go ahead and set it up, I'm good with that.

@faradaysloth: It was going to be Estarossa (no love hax) vs VL Ichigo, but you were busy so we never started it. You could pick another character besides Ichigo, but Gerard would stomp Estarossa, so that match up isn't fair.

@alextheboss: Ohhhh I remember it was DK Mel vs Gerard, my bad.

But yeah Estarossa (no love) vs VL Ichigo, now I remember. Yeah we can do it if you want.

@faradaysloth: Yeah, I'm good with that. Is Estarossa going to be limited to his feats with one commandment, or should I be allowed all feats pre Mael reveal.

@alextheboss: I don't really believe he got boosted that much in stats so yeah you can use those feats.

@faradaysloth: Do you want to make the thread or should I?

@alextheboss: You can make it if you want.

Anyone up to debate against Earth 31916 Hyperion?

Physicals : Country to Multi-Continent level

Speed : Hypersonic to FTL

Energy Projection : Country to Continent level

Anyone wanna challenge Hawkeye (Kate bishop)

@rac95: I might have something for the 1st 2 but does have to be with those settings

@smxlr8: Not necessarily, I just find it most interesting to work against characters from a similar setup

@rac95: so what are the levels and stats of the characters

Koinzell:

• Is an arrow-timer that can easily blitz normal persons, also pretty agile
• Strong enough to cut full grown men apart, can destroy stone and fight building sized monsters (Imagine El Gigante from RE 4)
• He has a special ability called "Black Sword" which he can mostly use only once before he needs to rest . It is more his ace in the hole, since it is strong enough to obliterate humans and easily destroys things like siege towers (can be restricted if necessary)

Clare:

• Can move and fight with FTE speed
• Can destroy stone and trees with her power
• She is also able to operate whilst injured and use this as a tactic.
• (She has technically a slight healing factor, that lets her fight longer)
• With Irenes arm, she gains a good boost in strength and speed, being able to deliver a multitude of strikes in the time it looks like she did one and can destroy small buildings

Mamoru:

• Peak human physical strength (ragdolling humans, nothing fancy like kicking through walls)
• Casual bullet-timer
• His "special abilities" are some kind of "sonar goggles" that allow him to see (basically a tech Daredevil) and a monomolecular katana that slices through stone and steel easily

@rac95: isn’t Clare at the end really powerful?

@smxlr8: Yeah at the end yes, that's why I would only use her before she gets Irenes arm or up to pre-timeskip.

After that they get an extreme boost in powers

@rac95: what’s the difference

How big of gap is it ?

@smxlr8: Between which levels? Post Irenes training and pre-timeskip would be around small building-building level, after the timeskip she becomes powerful enough to take on creatures that can demolish parts of a forest and parts of towns

@rac95: you want to talk more in a pm ?

@smxlr8: Sure

@frostplatinum said:

I really wanna CaV Neuro Nogami vs any street level character.

He doesn't get much attention in vs debates, and even when he does he tends to get downplayed.

@frostplatinum: Would Black Widow be good enough??

@rac95: do you want to do it or should I ?

@smxlr8: Could you set it up, I am most of the time on my phone right now

@psychicspy: Sure. 616?

@frostplatinum: Yes dear (Standard gear or h2h combat your choice)

@psychicspy: Standard gear would be fine.

@frostplatinum: Then you make the thread ok

@psychicspy: ok, it should be up soon

@psychicspy: Lol I actually forgot to ask, what is your preference on the rules of the fight, if any? I know it’s standard gear, but do you care about morals on/off, winning by k.o/death, etc.? Personally I would want for Neuro to be at full energy because it’s how he uses his abilities if you’re good with that

@frostplatinum: It really demands on how powerful he is though???

Otherwise i use Dagger

@psychicspy: What do you mean?

@frostplatinum: Sorry my stupid computer i meant a standard battle morals on but they feel like their life is in danger they would kill just tag me you made the thread ok

@psychicspy: Oh ok. Will do

@anthp2000

It's been a while, but if you're willing to finish our Tenzin vs Wan CaV, I'd like to do that.

If ant doesn't want to continue with our CaV (which is completely understandable seeing as how it's been over a year), then I'd like to rep avatar Wan against another avatar character.