CF Garou's combo runs a gauntlet

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Garou must kill or K.O. the target with these barrage of attacks in order to move on the gauntlet. They're not allowed to dodge or counter any of the attacks.

Round 1: Gear 5 Luffy

Round 2: Ichigo

Round 3: Baryon Mode Naruto

Round 4: Benimaru

Round 5: Ata (S8)

Round 6: Ardun (GoH)

Round 7: SSJ3 Goku (Buu Saga, manga version only)

Round 8: EOS Toriko

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6/7. Ardun is a tank, and I think ssj3 Goku just no sells, Toriko too.

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@heykorby Sorry I accidentally deleted the original one because I tried to click edit but the page scrolled lol.

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If this is Toei Z Goku, he should be above Toriko. Probably stops at 6?

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If this is Toei Z Goku, he should be above Toriko. Probably stops at 6?

I'll make it manga Goku.

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Well if we assume that this attack is similar, if not slightly higher than his GRB, large planet level. Maybe dwarf star level, but it depends. So I’d say 6/7

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Both Goku and Toriko don't feel it and proceed to oneshot him.

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@chris2kzombieki: even ginyu saga goku laughs at that. Fodder garou ain't got nothin on cell saga tiers and beyond.

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Stops at 3, definetly stops at 5

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@chris2kzombieki: comicvine has this habit to keep downplaying z by ignoring broly feats and scaling They're ignorant. Stated that young beerus can destroy the kaioshin realm and he is weaker than fat buu. Kind of adds up.

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@mysticgohan97: That has no relevance here….I know your the alt of that one guy I can’t remember so I’m not gonna bother

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@ultimatesage said:

Stops at 3, definetly stops at 5

Excuse me? Garou one-shots Naruto and the entirety of his verse pretty casually.

We were having a decent conversation not too long ago about Garou’s tier, and you seemed to agree he was planetary to large-planetary at the minimum, due to him no-selling his own black-hole. His AP would definitely be similar for his physicals, and as far as I know, this is most certainly beyond Naruto’s capabilities - by a long-shot actually.

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@mielle said:

Excuse me? Garou one-shots Naruto and the entirety of his verse pretty casually.

That's a stretch

We were having a decent conversation not too long ago about Garou’s tier, and you seemed to agree he was planetary to large-planetary at the minimum, due to him no-selling his own black-hole. His AP would definitely be similar for his physicals,

I placed him at planetary lvl simply because he scales above his previous forms, like I said in the other thread. And his GRB doesn't affect him, what tanking did he have to do there??

and as far as I know, this is most certainly beyond Naruto’s capabilities - by a long-shot actually.

What lvl do you have Naruto at?? Especially to be thinking planetary is beyond them

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That's a stretch

I don’t think so. Garou may not be able to permanently take down the immortals of the series, but he’s just too strong for everyone else.

I placed him at planetary lvl simply because he scales above his previous forms, like I said in the other thread. And his GRB doesn't affect him, what tanking did he have to do there??

I know what your argument is. I’ve then argued in front of you that there are other ways to get him there.

To answer your question though, Garou no-sold the gravity of his large-planetary black-hole which he was able to move in quite freely - then experienced no strain whatsoever.

What lvl do you have Naruto at?? Especially to be thinking planetary is beyond them

I think I could agree on moon-level Naruto based on showings from The Last, but I could simply bring up arguments to try and disprove that notion. As for the verse, the best feats come from Kaguya, whose ’Truth- Seeking Orb’ was getting ready to destroy her planetary-size dimensions (could be argued as higher.) Stuff like that is surely out of the ordinary for them though, since such an attack takes mass amounts of chakra and time to form.

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#25  Edited By UltimateSage
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I don’t think so. Garou may not be able to permanently take down the immortals of the series, but he’s just too strong for everyone else.

Yeah so haxxed individual could be a problem, but there's also some that can hold their own physically

I know what your argument is. I’ve then argued in front of you that there are other ways to get him there.

those other ways follow a very selective approach in calculating the way a black hole works and simultaneously completely ignoring the way a black hole works

To answer your question though, Garou no-sold the gravity of his large-planetary black-hole which he was able to move in quite freely - then experienced no strain whatsoever.

Move freely in? We didn't even see his perspective once he used the move. Most logical reasoning is it doesn't effect him in the first place.

Edit: I did look around, typically, surviving at the center of a black-hole isn't going towards your durability(do to the force there be literally infinite, which Garou sure isn't). It's taken more as resistance

I think I could agree on moon-level Naruto based on showings from The Last, but I could simply bring up arguments to try and disprove that notion. As for the verse, the best feats come from Kaguya, whose ’Truth- Seeking Orb’ was getting ready to destroy her planetary-size dimensions (could be argued as higher.) Stuff like that is surely out of the ordinary for them though, since such an attack takes mass amounts of chakra and time to form.

only from the Last?? Shippuden had moon lvl feats(Naruto and Sasuke making the moon), Hagaromo and Hamura also have the same feat, Juubidara's CTs are also in the moon lvl range. The Last just adds more to the list, with Toneri's small planet lvl feat of moving the moon. The Tenseigan being able to withstand the collision of earth&moon, naruto destroying that same Tenseigan. Almost all the god tiers can scale to these, from being the ones preforming the feats to being the ones above the guys preforming the feats. Kaguya's ETSB is a shout yeah

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Hard to say because I don't even know how strong his gravity knuckle is supossed to be.

I'm sure he stops at 7 tho, maybe before.

Move freely in? We didn't even see his perspective once he used the move. Most logical reasoning is it doesn't effect him in the first place.

Edit: I did look around, typically, surviving at the center of a black-hole isn't going towards your durability(do to the force there be literally infinite, which Garou sure isn't). It's taken more as resistance

It really depends into how much thought the author puts to that, there are some series that accurately potray blackholes and because of that some characters are scaled to those feats.

But more frequently it's just an inconsistency, specially if a characters is hurt by weaker things afterwards, so it's classified as a "Resistance" or "Immunity" to Blackholes rather than giving them Universe+ durability.

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#27  Edited By RyugaKishatu

Smh why's this still open? Anyone with least Star Level durability tanks it and one shots Garou

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Lol at Naruto tanking anything from CF Garou. still stops at Goku tho.

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Stops at 4.

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Stops at 5

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Stops at 3, definetly stops at 5

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Stops at Ardun.

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Stops at 7 everybody else gets their hearts and internal organs turned to mincemeat

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Definitely clears

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Goku still no sells then tears his head off with raw physical strenght, Ardun tanks all of his blows as well.

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Clears till R3, not sure about R4-R5 due to lack of knowledge, and unsure about the results of the rest.

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Stops at 7 everybody else gets their hearts and internal organs turned to mincemeat

There is no Fa Jin in that combo, so how is he attacking internal organs?

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@chris2kzombieki: comicvine has this habit to keep downplaying z by ignoring broly feats and scaling They're ignorant. Stated that young beerus can destroy the kaioshin realm and he is weaker than fat buu. Kind of adds up.

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Clearly stops at 6, everyone else after no sells.

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It really depends into how much thought the author puts to that, there are some series that accurately potray blackholes and because of that some characters are scaled to those feats.

No disagreements on that yeah

But more frequently it's just an inconsistency, specially if a characters is hurt by weaker things afterwards, so it's classified as a "Resistance" or "Immunity" to Blackholes rather than giving them Universe+ durability.

Also true, Infinite lvl durability Garou wouldn't make sense anyway

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Smh why's this still open? Anyone with least Star Level durability tanks it and one shots Garou

Why should it be locked? Lol.

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@garouhm: Benimaru should be around planet level, possibly higher. Ata is star level, possibly higher.. With crazy regeneration and non biological physiology.

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Ichigo isn't more durable than Gear 5 Luffy. Especially when it comes to blunt force. lol

4 or 5 I'd say.

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Stops at 6/7

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Garou destroyed stars with shockwave of punch, he is not stopping before 6 and 7

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Yeah so haxxed individual could be a problem, but there's also some that can hold their own physically

No one can contend with him physically.

He quite literally connects his first with anyone’s face and their head blows off.

those other ways follow a very selective approach in calculating the way a black hole works and simultaneously completely ignoring the way a black hole works

Of course in real-life a black-hole would’ve swallowed the planet, but it doesn’t take away the energy of what it took to create it.

Move freely in? We didn't even see his perspective once he used the move. Most logical reasoning is it doesn't effect him in the first place.

Yes, he was in it and firing off another attack shortly after.

Edit: I did look around, typically, surviving at the center of a black-hole isn't going towards your durability(do to the force there be literally infinite, which Garou sure isn't). It's taken more as resistance)

Okay. It’s still a large-planetary feat for its creation.

only from the Last?? Shippuden had moon lvl feats(Naruto and Sasuke making the moon), Hagaromo and Hamura also have the same feat, Juubidara's CTs are also in the moon lvl range. The Last just adds more to the list, with Toneri's small planet lvl feat of moving the moon. The Tenseigan being able to withstand the collision of earth&moon, naruto destroying that same Tenseigan. Almost all the god tiers can scale to these, from being the ones preforming the feats to being the ones above the guys preforming the feats. Kaguya's ETSB is a shout yeah

None of these have anything to do with a characters physical stats though, which is what I meant in the first place.

1.) Creating a ‘Chibaku Tensei’ doesn’t scale to your stats.

2.) The Tenseigan itself has no set durability. To even touch it in the first place, Naruto needed to infuse his chakra with Hinata’s. I’m only saying he needed that due to its curse, not that we was incapable of destroying it physically without Hinata.

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@mielle said:

No one can contend with him physically.

He quite literally connects his first with anyone’s face and their head blows off.

Adult nar/sas, jigen, Isshiki all most definitely do contend.

Of course in real-life a black-hole would’ve swallowed the planet, but it doesn’t take away the energy of what it took to create it.

Okay, energy to create it....keep that in your mind whilst reading below

Yes, he was in it and firing off another attack shortly after.

Huh? What other attack/movement did he do while simultaneously firing off GRB??

Okay. It’s still a large-planetary feat for its creation.

okay, but you realize it does nothing towards his durability for being inside it right? That's the takeaway here

None of these have anything to do with a characters physical stats though, which is what I meant in the first place.

Energy to create...did you keep it in mind?? You don’t see the hypocrisy in trying to scale Garou’s physically stats to his creation feat....while ignoring the ones in naruto??

1.) Creating a ‘Chibaku Tensei’ doesn’t scale to your stats.

Except it very much does. The same energy being used to create said CTs is what powers their physically stats. Chakra control & chakra potency does play a role to most, but ultimately more chakra > greater stats

2.) The Tenseigan itself has no set durability. To even touch it in the first place, Naruto needed to infuse his chakra with Hinata’s. I’m only saying he needed that due to its curse, not that we was incapable of destroying it physically without Hinata.

The Tenseigan is what powers the Tenseigan chamber and gives it the stated durability of being able to tank the earth/moon collision. That's a clear cut statement, and Naruto still destroyed it. Yes to actually touch it he needed someone with Hamura's chakra.

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@garouhm: Benimaru should be around planet level, possibly higher. Ata is star level, possibly higher.. With crazy regeneration and non biological physiology.

Thanks.

Benimaru dies but Ata might survive I guess.

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Moon Level Naruto in 2023 is absolutely absurd. Stops at 3 but if you don't like that, stops at 5.

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They all DIE!

Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist is the perfect defense. It can deflect attacks from an opponent and hit them with it. It can even deflect attacks from people much stronger than the user. its capable of deflecting small dust particles, and even attacks of pure energy, and garou has shown to even deflect saitama's attacks on multiple different instances. Its safe to say that none of their attacks are hitting him

Garou deflecting machine gun bullets with water stream rock smashing first

Garou redirecting an omnidirectional serious punch from saitama

Whirlwind Iron Cutting Fist manipulates air and creates very sharp pressure cutting through all kinds of stuff. Garou is able to fodderize people like royal ripper with it

Roaring Aura Sky Ripping Fist combines Water stream rock and whirlwind iron cutting fist together. Normally it required two martial artists like bang and bomb to perform due its insane complexity, but garou perfected it to the point that he removed the drawbacks. It also bypasses physical durability of the opponent due to the shockwaves it produces. A much more drawn back version which bang and bomb used was able to bypass the durability of sage centipedes exoskelton. Garous use of the technique was so potent that the external shockwaves were even pulverizing nearby rubble. A single graze of the attack was able to massively damage and knock out bang

As for Nuclear Fission, it would most likely kill every single person on this list, the moment garou makes use of the attack. I don't think anyone here can survive that amount of radiation head on. I know for a fact that luffy, naruto, ata, goku and toriko would die instantly. Couple that with the fact that garou can deflect every single of their attacks, make use of durability negating martial arts, There is no way any of these people aren't getting killed or least KO'd