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               THIS IS EVERY CELESTIAL (including Scathan, Tiamut and Exitar) VS THE REAL MONITORS (including Nix Uotan, excluding Mandrakk)


 Scathan will not approve if the following conditions are not met:

  1. No universe can be harmed or altered in any way 
  2. No star system can be harmed
  3. No BFRs of any kind, whatsoever
 
 
 Fight goes to total  extinction until one race is eradicated completely.    
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#2  Edited By geraldthesloth

who's writing it?

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aww thought these were the real monitors like in superman beyond 3D
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@geraldthesloth said:
"who's writing it? "
if grant is then they win
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@High Revolutionary said:
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                                                                           THIS IS EVERY CELESTIAL (including Scathan and Exitar) VS THE REAL MONITORS

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they win, the monitors are like the watchers of the multiverse, they control the comic realm from where they are lol they just wipe the celestials universe out
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@High Revolutionary: With Nix Uotan?
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#7  Edited By geraldthesloth

Monitors!

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@geraldthesloth said:
"Monitors! "

for sure
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@High Revolutionary: The Judge of All Evil takes it. He's pretty much a main line to the over monitor that encompasses everything. 
 
Newsarama said:

NRAMA: Nix wakes up on earth...are the other Monitors now part of the story as well? 

GM: No. Monitor-Mind has worked through its own Ultimate Story and spared Nix Uotan to be its sole representative and interface with the Multiverse. I see Uotan’s ‘hyperhero’ role in the DCU as a cross between the Silver Surfer and Doctor Who (particularly the Earthbound Jon Pertwee iteration of the character). 

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#10  Edited By Lance Uppercut

Dunno if we're counting this, but didn't the fifth host of Celestials contain the goblin Force for a time being? I know it's AU, but it also took an omniversal being to fully erase the GF.

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#11  Edited By geraldthesloth
@Lance Uppercut: are you talking about Havok from mutant X? he had multiversal power :)
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Celestials take this.  Haven't seen anything from any one of the monitors matching up to any of the standard Celestials, let alone high end Celestials like TOAA and the rest in the Host! Not to mention that there's a hell of alot more Celestials than there is Monitors, hell of alot more, since the op stated Every Celestial.
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @Lance Uppercut: are you talking about Havok from mutant X? he had multiversal power :) "
Thanks for correcting me.
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#14  Edited By czarny_samael666

With Tiamut, Celestials will win for sure.

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celestials

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#16  Edited By Jx4gz

Monitors should win 
Monitors are multiversal beings, the Celestials cant compete

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probably the Monitors...
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#18  Edited By sexy beast

Celestials win, too many and too powerful.

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#19  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Seems to be pretty split....I'd need to hear some impressive Celestial feats to believe they could take out the Monitors. Nix Uotan is the Judge of all evil in the DC Multiverse, he clearly has immense multiversal power.

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@Lunacyde said:
" Seems to be pretty split....I'd need to hear some impressive Celestial feats to believe they could take out the Monitors. Nix Uotan is the Judge of all evil in the DC Multiverse, he clearly has immense multiversal power. "
Odins power:


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Odin Souped up to the max with fellow gods Zeus and Vishnu go to attack a Celestial (Arishem):
 


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Odin, Zeus and Vishnu combine all their powers in one powerful blast that is sure to destroy at least a galaxy (see first scan):
 


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Their attacks are useless so they get down on their knees and surrender:
 


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Having failed.  The gods try one last attack using the destroyer armor.  And it fails miserable against the celestials:

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#21  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to.

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#22  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Lunacyde said:
"The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. "

someones been reading some superman beyond it seems :P but your right the monitors are the people who keep the multiverse going, it's like  chess to them they move and keep it from coming all aprt, thats what made mandrakk so ''omg wtf do we do''
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#23  Edited By Tevnoba

The Celestial Race takes this.  But, it would be a decent fight.

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#24  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Tevnoba said:
"The Celestial Race takes this.  But, it would be a decent fight. "
they can't take on beings who view the multiverse   as nothing more then a board game
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#25  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Lunacyde said:
"The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. "
someones been reading some superman beyond it seems :P but your right the monitors are the people who keep the multiverse going, it's like  chess to them they move and keep it from coming all aprt, thats what made mandrakk so ''omg wtf do we do'' "
Yes, well it's true, i mean these guys play chess with universes like they are nothing. i was simply pointing out the fallacy in comparing thier power to Zeus or Odin's however powerful as they are.
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@Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.
 
In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods.
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@High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing?
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#28  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

I know I asked for feats and you provided...I am just having a hard time gauging accurately their power level in comparison with the Monitors. The scans would have been useful if the opponent were comparable however it seems a little vague to me when IMO if the same God's tried to fight the monitors the Monitors would also wipe them out.
 
It's kinda like saying Carmelo Anthony is better than Dwayne Wade because he beat some no name high schooler in a game of 1 on 1 :)

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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse.
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#30  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat)
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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows.
 
BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers).
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#32  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG.
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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor.
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#34  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in.
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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Thanos wasn't a threat to the multiverse because he only wanted one universe. The LT clearly stated that the IG can in fact be used to cause multiversal damage. Don't make me grab the scans.
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Monitors have died, Celestials havent. Or not, I don't know a thing about Marvel.

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" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force.
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@Lance Uppercut said:
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" @High Revolutionary said:
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" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Thanos wasn't a threat to the multiverse because he only wanted one universe. The LT clearly stated that the IG can in fact be used to cause multiversal damage. Don't make me grab the scans. "
i know the IG is multiversal but thanos never used it's powers on a multiversal scale, not matter his ideas behind it he still never did, so this means the people thanos beat were beat with only universal powers being used, the monitors would not even waste there time with that like LT
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Well when I compare what killed a Monitor to what killed a Celestial, it becomes a little clearer who has the advantage here. I still give it to the Celestials, mostly because of TOAA.

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@Lance Uppercut said:
" @ryanwh said:
" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force. "
Not to mention the decapitated celestial which became knowhere.
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@AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @ryanwh said:
" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force. "
Not to mention the decapitated celestial which became knowhere. "
Must have been done by something of immense power too. Because even Celestials have stated that the only way they can stop one of their brethren is to put them to sleep.
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@Lance Uppercut said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @ryanwh said:
" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force. "
Not to mention the decapitated celestial which became knowhere. "
Must have been done by something of immense power too. Because even Celestials have stated that the only way they can stop one of their brethren is to put them to sleep. "
Yes well, no one is going to accusse the new Eternals series of being completely loyal to continuity
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@AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @ryanwh said:
" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force. "
Not to mention the decapitated celestial which became knowhere. "
Must have been done by something of immense power too. Because even Celestials have stated that the only way they can stop one of their brethren is to put them to sleep. "
Yes well, no one is going to accusse the new Eternals series of being completely loyal to continuity "
True
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@AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @AtPhantom said:
" @Lance Uppercut said:
" @ryanwh said:
" Monitors have died, Celestials havent. "
Not true. Celestial was killed by Thanos when he had the HoTU. Also, in an AU, members of the fifth host died while capturing the Goblin Force. "
Not to mention the decapitated celestial which became knowhere. "
Must have been done by something of immense power too. Because even Celestials have stated that the only way they can stop one of their brethren is to put them to sleep. "
Yes well, no one is going to accusse the new Eternals series of being completely loyal to continuity "
in all reality most comics branches other then main streams never keep to well to the rules laid down by the comics before it.
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"thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "


Your logic is wrong.  It doesn't always hold true.  Just because Thano's use of the IG was at a universal scale doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to kill at least two Monitors with it.  
 

ie:  
 
 The Watchers have been around for eons and some posess the ability to create universes out of nothing (not just repair it like WPOTC but actually create one).  And yet, they've been pushed around by much lesser beings.  Heck, Rulk KOed Uatu for Pete's sake, and the Grand Master too (a universal elder).
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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
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" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Wrong logic there.  LT did step in, but chose not to interfere because Thanos was only supplanting Eternity with his own existence (survival of the fittest - one of the universe's most prominent laws) and was therefore not a cosmic imbalance.
 
Also, it has never been proven that LT could stop IG (while in unison) he only ever prevented the gems from working in unison once they were dismantled.
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@Tevnoba said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
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" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Wrong logic there.  LT did step in, but chose not to interfere because Thanos was only supplanting Eternity with his own existence (survival of the fittest - one of the universe's most prominent laws) and was therefore not a cosmic imbalance.  Also, it has never been proven that LT could stop IG (while in unison) he only ever prevented the gems from working in unison once they were dismantled. "
if thanos was effecting the multiverse and not just 616 then LT would have stepped in, the eternity in 616 was just the 616 eternity not the multiverse
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@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Tevnoba said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
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" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @High Revolutionary said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Wrong logic there.  LT did step in, but chose not to interfere because Thanos was only supplanting Eternity with his own existence (survival of the fittest - one of the universe's most prominent laws) and was therefore not a cosmic imbalance.  Also, it has never been proven that LT could stop IG (while in unison) he only ever prevented the gems from working in unison once they were dismantled. "
if thanos was effecting the multiverse and not just 616 then LT would have stepped in, the eternity in 616 was just the 616 eternity not the multiverse "
IG is a multiversal threat - there is only one set in the multiverse - not multiples, and it controls all aspects of Space, Time, Power, The Mind, The Soul, and Reality.  I am not saying that Thanos was using it in that fashion, but with the Infinity Gauntlet someone can affect any diension or alternate rality they want.  Thanos and Adam might never have used the gauntlet to to affect the multiverse, but that does not mean it could not.
 
Also, since it was implied by the Adam Warlock (w/IG) & LT (who is multiversal - as there is only one in the entire Marvel Actualtiy and he spans the entire multiverse simultaneously) that he was not sure if he could remove the gauntlet by force - I'd deduce that the IG is multiversal.
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@Tevnoba said:
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" @Lunacyde said:
" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Wrong logic there.  LT did step in, but chose not to interfere because Thanos was only supplanting Eternity with his own existence (survival of the fittest - one of the universe's most prominent laws) and was therefore not a cosmic imbalance.  Also, it has never been proven that LT could stop IG (while in unison) he only ever prevented the gems from working in unison once they were dismantled. "
if thanos was effecting the multiverse and not just 616 then LT would have stepped in, the eternity in 616 was just the 616 eternity not the multiverse "
IG is a multiversal threat - there is only one set in the multiverse - not multiples, and it controls all aspects of Space, Time, Power, The Mind, The Soul, and Reality.  I am not saying that Thanos was using it in that fashion, but with the Infinity Gauntlet someone can affect any diension or alternate rality they want.  Thanos and Adam might never have used the gauntlet to to affect the multiverse, but that does not mean it could not.  Also, since it was implied by the Adam Warlock (w/IG) & LT (who is multiversal - as there is only one in the entire Marvel Actualtiy and he spans the entire multiverse simultaneously) that he was not sure if he could remove the gauntlet by force - I'd deduce that the IG is multiversal. "
i know the IG itself is multiversal but that does not mean people can use it like that, almost all people who have had the IG have only universal feats to there name, thats why LT did not come in since thanos was not himself a threat to the multiverse,
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" The Monitors are so massive and powerful that they do not exist on our plane of existence. The universes of the multiverse are insignificant to them, they consider life in the multiverse germs. I don't think that Odin or Zeus's power compares in the slightest to a monitor's. The God's blast would have wiped out a galaxy, a Monitor could wipe out a universe easily if they wanted to. "
As the scans show, Odin or Zeus's power doesn't even compare AT ALL to the Celestials.  Those scans are feats for a mediocre Celestial.  Their combined powers weren't even noticeable to Arishem.  In that battle, the Celesials took on all the gods of Asgard, Olympus and Nirvana and basically slaughtered them.  And that was no where near their entire race.  There was like 5 or 6 of them versus thousands upon thousands of gods. "
odins powers pales to a celestial yes but what do they have to show other then universal feats? all the monitors ARE a multiversal feat, they mapped an kept the multiverse itself in order for a daily job, they can't even be in the multiverse since they would be to massive in power, that book in superman beyond issue one that held every event from the DCU history, the monitors are the one who wrote everything down, the COIE anti-monitor, he was a monitor sent into DCU to destroy it, mandrakk, he was one of the most powerful who was sent in by the primal monitor to end all life in DCU to start over, get the idea of what there facing? "
The Celestials are believed to have originally come from outside the Marvel Multiverse. "
yet when reed went looking for the beyonder he found a universe full of them in the marvel multiverse, and when beyonder attacked them he said they act like they protect the universe and care, this means they are more or less only universal powerhouses, in the IG arc they were owned (as well as galactus and eternity) all who are only a universal beings (galactus maybe powerful but he is still no multiversal threat) "
Well, I wish I could go into detail about the how and whys of the Celestials, but no body really knows why they care, or how they function (or the actual scale of their existence).  It was once revealed that they served a being named Fulcrum who served as a multiversal being who essentially had the job of taking care of life and death on a massive scale.   Some say he is the LT of a different multiverse, others say he was the personification of THOTU, and some firmly believe he is the TOAA (I don't accept this).  Anyhoo, the point is no body knows. BTW: I like how you make it sound as though Thanos with the IG was small scale power.  Even with the glove, he just took out two celesitals. He was owning an entire universe without trying (he took out half the universes' population with a snap of his fingers). "
to the monitors what thanos did was a small scale of power, he had no multiversal feats with the IG. "
You don't need to posses massive multiversal feats in order to be felt by a Monitor. "
thanos was not even a threat to the multiverse, since if he was LT would have stepped in and stopped in. "
Wrong logic there.  LT did step in, but chose not to interfere because Thanos was only supplanting Eternity with his own existence (survival of the fittest - one of the universe's most prominent laws) and was therefore not a cosmic imbalance.  Also, it has never been proven that LT could stop IG (while in unison) he only ever prevented the gems from working in unison once they were dismantled. "
if thanos was effecting the multiverse and not just 616 then LT would have stepped in, the eternity in 616 was just the 616 eternity not the multiverse "
IG is a multiversal threat - there is only one set in the multiverse - not multiples, and it controls all aspects of Space, Time, Power, The Mind, The Soul, and Reality.  I am not saying that Thanos was using it in that fashion, but with the Infinity Gauntlet someone can affect any diension or alternate rality they want.  Thanos and Adam might never have used the gauntlet to to affect the multiverse, but that does not mean it could not.  Also, since it was implied by the Adam Warlock (w/IG) & LT (who is multiversal - as there is only one in the entire Marvel Actualtiy and he spans the entire multiverse simultaneously) that he was not sure if he could remove the gauntlet by force - I'd deduce that the IG is multiversal. "
i know the IG itself is multiversal but that does not mean people can use it like that, almost all people who have had the IG have only universal feats to there name, thats why LT did not come in since thanos was not himself a threat to the multiverse, "
That is not why LT did not intervene.  Read the series over again, it's because Thanos was exercising Survival of the Fittest.