@thor_parker82: I'm fine with those pairings. So is the posting order going to go like ABAB or AABB (if that makes sense)?
I´d say ABAB, for example, @New_World_Order makes his post then you make yours since you´re debating him, then I make my post, after that @emperorthanos makes his post.
@New_World_Order: @emperorthanos: @thor_parker82:Now I think we have everything sorted out in terms of the characters, and on the structure of the debate, but who is going first?
@New_World_Order: @emperorthanos: @thor_parker82:Now I think we have everything sorted out in terms of the characters, and on the structure of the debate, but who is going first?
Thor is the blood-son of Odin, All-Father of the Asgardians, and Jord, who was also known as Gaea, the goddess who was one of the Elder Gods. Odin sought to father a son whose power would derive from both Asgard and Midgard (as the Earth realm is called by Asgardians), and hence he sought to mate with Jord.
Thor - God of Thunder - Prince of Asgard - Son of Odin
"All the power of the storm, from all the world, flows through my veins, and can be summoned by mine hammer at any time, wherever it is. A lightning storm in Japan? Mine. A hurricane off the coast of Barbados? Mine again. A brace of tornadoes in Kansas? Aye...mine. All that might, all that destructive force, mine to command. Channeled and guided through the mystic might of this hammer, guided right at thee!"
As seen in "Age of Ultron #0.1", Thor can casually replicate the force of a nuclear attack, in a mission where The Avengers encounter M.O.D.O.K, the floating head proceeds to state that their attacks are useless, that his shields are capable of withstanding a nuclear attack, then Thor proceeds to effortlessly one shot him, meaning Odinson casually packs the power of a nuclear attack.
Another of Thor´s main method of attacks, is lightning, such an attack, from a young unworthy Thor nonetheless, was enough to one shot a weaker version of Gorr (who was still plenty powerful and mopped the floor with young Thor) with a single lightning strike, and Green Lantern´s shields are not powerful enough to withstand one of these, let alone repeated lightnings.
This next feat is quite low when you take into account Thor´s upper limits of strength, but just to serve as a glimpse of the thunder god´s muscles, look at the following scans. I´m pretty sure that Thor is the physically strongest out of all the characters in this specific battle. During "Thor: God of Thunder #24" Odinson took his own castle from Asgard and gave it to the people of Broxton, note how he is casually lifting a building sized object without any problem
Thor has also casually held an airplane in "Nova #25", it is worth to mention that both Carol Danvers and Sam Alexander (Captain Marvel and Nova respectively) failed to do that.
Now we all know how troublesome it is to debate in favor of Thor´s speed, that won´t stop me though, so let´s get to it. Thor haz no problem in countering a bullrush from Iron Man during JMS´ run, and although he had the Odin Force, it doesn´t affects the user´s speed, it never has done such thing.
Iron Man went to talk with Thor (who had the Odin Force) about the superhero registration act, and that it was a law to be registered, that he should do so if he didn´t want to get in trouble, Thor refused calling Stark a coward for hunting his friends, then a fight started, if it can be called that, considering Thor completely humilliated Iron Man. During the course of battle, Iron Man tried to speedblitz Thor, who countered the blitz by hitting him with his hammer.
(It is important to note that Odin Force doesn´t affect the users´ speed at all, just so you know)
Iron Man has great super speed for those who don´t know, when Stark received Extremis, he faced Mallen an extremis powered person, and Tony showcased his FTE combat speed when he easiy dodged an electricity blast fired at point blank, Iron Man was so fast that he was right in front of Mallen and in an eye-blink he was already behind him, he wasn´t even a blur, he moved so fast that he just disappeared of Mallen´s sight and appeared behind him, yet Thor has never had a problem defeating Iron Man, hell, just look at my scan above, he had no trouble countering a speedblitz from Iron Man.
He has also catched a tank shell (Thor: First Thunder #4) and in another occasion (The Punisher: War Zone #3) he flat out dodged it with no signs of any kind of struggle, as an added information to give this feat more depth, tank shells travel at 2000-5000 feet per second, if you do the math, considering Thor was no further than 10-20 feet, that makes it a mach level reaction feat.
Now this one comes from "Axis #9", in there, Thor humilliated Apocalypse, but that´s an entirely different matter to where I´m going here. He simply shrugged off a strike from an Uru Absorbing Man who had touched Jarnbjorn, and just after that, he (again) shrugged off a combined attack from Cyclops and Havok, it is worth to note that the latter has tore down an entire building, yet Thor was unharmed by him.
Thor is pretty resistant to slashing and stabbing attacks as well, one of the examples comes from "The Mighty Thor #614" where the Disir were unable to cut Thor even though they tried for quite a prolonged time.
You may ask why is this impressive, well, let me tell you that within the same story arc, the Disir cut to pieces an asgardian at the speed of thought, they cut through him like a knife on butter, it was quite a brutal dead for the asgardian, yet like I mentioned, the disir failed to do any significant damage to Thor.
Some initial considerations to take into account in this fight is Thor´s insane striking power coupled with his durability that will enable him to power through most of the attacks either Green Lantern or Orion throw at him, however, I´ll be mainly facing Green Lantern, with that said, I haven´t seen anything from Hal that would suggest he could take on Thor, sure, it´s a good match, but one that ultimately will have the god of thunder as the winner.
You may ask why, well, the main reason being that Hal Jordan can´t and won´t be able to take repeated strikes from Thor, who packs quite a powerful hammer, on top of a magical lightning, an example of Hal not being able to take repeated strikes from the thunder god is shown when Wonder Woman easily broke through his constructs.
Now this is quite relevant because Thor has a considerably better striking power than Wonder Woman, and not only did Diana shatter Hal´s shield, he also made him bleed within the very same strike. Now another example comes from "Justice League #2# where Superman breaks his constructs without any signs of struggle, while saying "chains, you´re funny Green Lantern" and proceeded to shatter his constructs.
Now again, Thor has a better damage output than Clark, and at the very least comparable physicals, as you can see, Clark pretty much effortlessly shattered Hal´s constructs, so I see a very similar scenario to those above happening between Thor and Green Lantern.
@thor_parker82: Looks good my friend. I see you adopted the "======" from that tournament match xD
EDIT: Oh btw, I think maybe you should edit the OP to state that Orion is gonna be versing old Thor and Hal is going to be facing Modern Thor (If those are the match-ups we've settled on)?
@thor_parker82: Looks good my friend. I see you adopted the "======" from that tournament match xD
EDIT: Oh btw, I think maybe you should edit the OP to state that Orion is gonna be versing old Thor and Hal is going to be facing Modern Thor (If those are the match-ups we've settled on)?
Lol yeah, it does give it a nice touch when trying to separate subjects/ideas.
Well, those are the match-ups we settled on, but we can also argue how we could help our teammate at the same time, otherwise this wouldn´t be a tag team CaV and just two separate CaVs.
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