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Team Pierpat:

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Bartimeus Of Uruk (no gear needed for him, he needs invisibility off in OP)

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King Bradley (4 unbreakable swords, the unbreakable part was a your idea xD)

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Albert Wesker (a handgun and a pair of sunglasses for him)

VS.

Team Lukehero:

Wolverine: Standard Costume, No Gear
Wolverine: Standard Costume, No Gear

His Special Guns & Cellphone, Standard Costume, 2 Unbreakable Swords
His Special Guns & Cellphone, Standard Costume, 2 Unbreakable Swords

No Gear
No Gear

Rules:

Win by Death, KO, Or Major Incap

Basic Knowledge(Powers, Gear, Skills, No Mind Set Or Weaknesses)

Perfect Teamwork, Morals On In Character

Starting Distance: 500 Yards Away, Teams Must Find Each Other

Both Teams Get Indestructible Com Links For Communication

No Prep, But 5 Mins To Make A Plan

Battlefield: Abandoned Downtown

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#2 Edited by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

Make sure you are cool with everything that's in there. @pierpat

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#3 Edited by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero: a part for my name misspelled, the two wolvie pics and the 1 hour specification for KO that makes it for me really difficult to put down wolvie, it seems fine

want to have the first post?

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#4 Edited by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Fixed. Although I did that 1 hour thing for everyone's benefit, Wolverine usually has to be incaped, because of his feats fistacuffs ain't gonna get it done.

I know about the 2 main members of your team, but the weird guy from the books, I know very little. Because we are allowed basic knowledge. I was hoping you would go first, unless you really want the last word.

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#5 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero: no issue, I'll be able to post a basic opener in an hour or so.

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#6 Edited by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Alright cool. I'm gonna start out with just a basic intro as well, then use scans as needed. Really no need to scan blast with Wolverine, but as things go on you'll probably see a decent number of scans for Goblin and Lord DS.

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#7 Edited by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero:

Team Pierpat's light Opener:

Here's a short post where i do not confront the teams or plan a tactic, but i simply present my team, it's general skills and powers.

King Bradley (Wrath)

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He is a human transformed into a homunculus.

With this transformation he obtained superhuman strength,stamina and speed.

He also obtained the Ultimate Eye:

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Which enhances his perceptions to the point to be able to "read" movements and foresee what will happen to a certain degree.

He is also incredibly cold blooded has an astonishing pain tolerance.

To crown all this he is an incredibly skilled swordsman and has tons of experience.

Here's a tribute that highlights his incredible abilities:

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Albert Wesker:

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Wesker was born with superior genes, and trained by the umbrella corporation, together with other promising children,and had shown superior abilities in comparison with the other kids.He served for years in special operation teams and in a police special team, proving great strategic ability.He managed to stop a a tyrant before acquiring his powers.

He injected himself a particular virus, which gave him superior speed,enough to blitz bullet timers and move faster than the human eye can follow, strength and durability, together with an incredible regeneration.He has humiliated to peak humans with incredible training more than once, thrust a hand through a man's chest, tanked being stabbed and shot while weakened,taking an rpg to the face.

He was taken down only with lava, coordinate rpgs and a serum made on purpose to weaken him.

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Bartimeus of Uruk:

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He's a demon.

But what does it mean in his verse?

First of all he's made up of essence,that means no anatomic weak-spots, and can change form anytime to anything he likes(with a size limit according to the demons power, Bart can't get alot larger than a human, lets say Hippo/rhino/Buffalo size).He has an awesome regeneration, that is taunted only by Iron and silver, and other metals to a lesser degree.

He can't die of age, is immune to all poisons not specific for demons(he does not have internal organs or anything like that)he has superhuman strength(up to 3-5 tons)slightly above peak human speed(blur to human's eyes, reacts to bullets) and a wide array of magical abilities together with an incredible stamina.

He's been called by mages for espionage/protection/war missions for the last 5000 years, giving him an incredible fighting experience.

He's cunning and smart, being capable of defeating beings stronger than him with tactics and tricks.

He can "see" on various "planes", that sort of adds a x-ray type vision that can perceive any living being.

His magic is quite varied, and it can be used for a lot of purposes, he has proven to be capable of:

Shooting rpg-level magical shots of various nature(heat/explosion/concussion based ones) or hails of grenade-level ones.

He can create shields or apply sigils to magically strengthen mundane objects.

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#8 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Almost done with my intro...

He can create silent bubbles or invisibility nets(he can't move while within one, you tell me if you want it to be allowed, it's less Hax than the general invisibility he normally has).

That sounds pretty Hax, Lord Deathstrike has intangibility, but I wasn't going to use it. I was looking for a more straight up fight, with some strategy. I'm almost done with my intro.

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#9 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero said:

@pierpat: Almost done with my intro...

He can create silent bubbles or invisibility nets(he can't move while within one, you tell me if you want it to be allowed, it's less Hax than the general invisibility he normally has).

That sounds pretty Hax, Lord Deathstrike has intangibility, but I wasn't going to use it. I was looking for a more straight up fight, with some strategy. I'm almost done with my intro.

Sounds fair, editing that part out.

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#10 Posted by Jacthripper (14445 posts) - - Show Bio

Tag for voting

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#12 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: I'm so sorry, I'm always slow on the first post. I'll post today.

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@lukehero said:

@pierpat: I'm so sorry, I'm always slow on the first post. I'll post today.

No problem, i just wanted a chance to show my House Royce bump Honestly xD

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@pierpat:

Intro: Team LukeHero

Wolverine: (Team Leader)

Powers & Skills:

  • High Level Healing Factor
  • Adamatium Skeleton
  • Super Strength Of 2 Tons
  • Super Senses
  • Very Good Durability
  • Berserker Rage
  • Expert Hunter & Tracker
  • Incredible Pain Tolerance
  • Master Tactician
  • Excellent Leader
  • Mastered Virtually Every H2H Fighting Style on Earth
  • Master Swordsman & Melee Fighter
  • Incredible Experience
  • Excellent Agility
  • Excellent Speed

Official Marvel Handbook Entries & Stats

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Ultimate Green Goblin: (Team Brick/Power House)

Powers & Skills

  • 30 Ton Super Strength
  • Fire Blasts & Fire AOE Attacks
  • Very Good Healing Factor
  • Immortality
  • Brawling
  • Near Bullet Proof Durability(Extremely Bullet Resistant)
  • Extreme Body Heat
  • Fire Punches
  • Decent Experience
  • Decent Speed
  • Very Good Agility & Super Jumping

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Lord Deathstrike

Powers & Abilities & Gear:

  • Special Guns: Can Shoot Through Extremely Durable Material
  • Special Bullets: Return, Release Acid, Homing Beacon, and Explode Functions
  • Special Cellphone: Radar, Controls His Special Bullets, Etc
  • Bullet Proof Helmet
  • X-Ray Vision In Helmet
  • Walk On Walls
  • Expert Marksmen
  • Assassin: Works Mainly For Hydra
  • Decent Swordsman: Sword Fought Vampire Jubilee
  • Solid Durability: Took Punches From a Female Venom, and Vampire Jubilee
  • Pretty Good Regen & Healing: Handled Being Stabbed By Wolverine, Multiple Times
  • Peak Human Strength
  • Wolverine Type Speed: Was Able to React To Wolverine While Fighting

Weapons & Gear Feats:

Has Tracking Radar In His Cellphone As He Searches For A Target Half A World Away
Has Tracking Radar In His Cellphone As He Searches For A Target Half A World Away
Prepares His Special Sniper Rifle
Prepares His Special Sniper Rifle
He can use it with or with out the stand.
He can use it with or with out the stand.
Bullet Passes Through The Earth & Shoots A Man on the other side of the Planet
Bullet Passes Through The Earth & Shoots A Man on the other side of the Planet
Snipes Mystique, then uses his cellphone to make the bullets explode inside of her.
Snipes Mystique, then uses his cellphone to make the bullets explode inside of her.
Close up of the cellphone and bullet functions.
Close up of the cellphone and bullet functions.
Chases after Mystique while she is on a motorbike, even though he is only on foot.
Chases after Mystique while she is on a motorbike, even though he is only on foot.
Uses his X-Ray Vision to see through the street while in the sewer. Shoots at mystique with his special rounds. Tags Mystique's bike  although she is a moving target on a motorcycle.
Uses his X-Ray Vision to see through the street while in the sewer. Shoots at mystique with his special rounds. Tags Mystique's bike although she is a moving target on a motorcycle.
Avoids Machine Gun Fire. Runs Up and Down a Wall.
Avoids Machine Gun Fire. Runs Up and Down a Wall.
Again Avoids Machine Gun Fire. Shoots While Jumping In The Air. Slams Into a Car.
Again Avoids Machine Gun Fire. Shoots While Jumping In The Air. Slams Into a Car.
Takes 3 Shots To The Head. Uses Intangibility to Escape(I Won't Be Using It Though).
Takes 3 Shots To The Head. Uses Intangibility to Escape(I Won't Be Using It Though).

I'll show more feats and stuff for my characters later on. I think that is a good intro for now. I don't want to use up all my material at once or "scan slam" the voters.

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So....let's get this started.

Your team is surely impressive....but some points must be adjourned.

Starting Distance: 500 Yards Away, Teams Must Find Each Other

Your team cannot sneak up on mine.

Why?

Because Bartimeus can perceive auras of any living thing and recognize them:

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And thanks to the comm links he can also tell the other two less....sensitive? members of the team the enemy's whereabouts.

And again....your team has no way of spotting Bart without him having the first shot:

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He can transform nearly into anything he wants, at incredible speed rates.

He can even transform into a whirl of smoke

So, unless your team plans on attacking any street dog,fly or....whirl of smoke it sees Bartimeus can choose the right moment to strike with them knowing nothing.

And....talking about Bart having the first hit:

He has great strength:

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Casually chucking in the air half a ton blocks of stone

And he has the ability to fire various types of bolts:

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Bolts that shatter stone and hurt beings of Bart's range of durability

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Bolt vaporizing a section of a wall

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One shotting another Djinn(demon in the same class thus with similar stats) with a detonation

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Firing a volley of shots capable of melting some rock and metal.

His hits are somewhere in between rpg and grenade level, and can liquefy papar and shatter stone with ease.

With them he has consistently tagged beings that are above peak humans in both speed and reflexes.

That settled, let's talk about.....the effectiveness of bullets against my team.

Noticing that one of you're characters Uses a firearm as a main weapon, i'll spend a moment to talk about this issue:

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At 0:17 he deviates machine gun fire with his sword.

At 0:23 he cuts a tank shell in half.

I'd like to point out that bradley is wearing his eyepatch for the whole clip.

This means he did all this without his ultimate eye.

While bart can not only create shields to block the bullets.... he can simply tank more than one, given i assume they are not silver:

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Tanking being stabbed to the chest by an expert assassin with no issue at all just because the knife was nor silver or iron.

While wesker......

Oh, do i even need to explain this?

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he's simply too fast.

Now....this was why my team can have the first hit and avoid being shot at.

Now let's see how my team delivers the other hits and ends yours.

Wrath has indestructible blades for this fight.

And....he already had incredible striking feats with standard ones:

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here he cuts solid rock and thick reinforced steel with no issue at all.

And again he did it with common swords then.

He is also incredibly fast at striking, having speed-blitzed numerous bullet timers and done this:

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Performing numerous slashes faster than the eye could perceive.

So, i simply do not see your teammates avoiding him without any harm.

In the 5 min prep the team will have agreed that bart will have to land the first hit on Deathstrike and then concentrate on wolverine.

So, with wolvie at least busy, Wrath can concentrate on,if deathstrike stays down, Goblin.

I'd like to see how that brute can counter King Bradley.

Last but not least.....Wesker.

Wesker has to keep Goblin busy while wrath kills of Lord Deathstrike(if you can proof he survive's Bart's initial alpha strike) and then focus on wolvie with bart or on goblin with Wrath, depending on who is having more issues.

About wesker.....he has a crazy durability ya know?

Blunt force:

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here he tanks numerous tons of iron falling on him with no issue at all.

And that was a younger and weaker wesker, that had just obtained his powers.

Explosions:

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Tanking an rpg to the face.

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#16 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Good stuff. I'll just wait for the edit to counter the whole thing. On the very last book scan, it looks kind of choppy, like you had part of it in magnifying mode.

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#17 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero said:

@pierpat: Good stuff. I'll just wait for the edit to counter the whole thing. On the very last book scan, it looks kind of choppy, like you had part of it in magnifying mode.

last one seems fine, do you mean the one-before-last, the last one in the bunch of five?

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#19 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero said:

@pierpat: Yeah, that's what I meant.

Yeah, noticed it too now, I'll fix in tomorrow's edit.

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#20 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: That's fine, I may be the underdog in this one due to your teams speed, but you're gonna get one hell of a fight!!! :D

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#21 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero said:

@pierpat: That's fine, I may be the underdog in this one due to your teams speed, but you're gonna get one hell of a fight!!! :D

You have a wolverine and i only have vague ideas on how i can put down that.....thing.

Don't think i have the upper hand xD

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#22 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: Well he is the Best There Is... :p

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#23 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero:

Edit done.

I've also added a description to the book scans to facilitate use.

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@pierpat:

Alright, I know I took long as hell to respond.

The Plan:

Wolverine of course will be leading the team since he has the most experience and the most actual leadership feats.

Jobs:

  • Lord Deathstrike will hang back and snipe and track your team with his cellphone radar. Also he will keep a look out with his X-Ray vision.
  • Wolverine will act as bait running straight up the middle.
  • Green Goblin will jump from building to building lighting the entire city around us on fire for the exception of the building Lord Deathstrike will be sniping from.

Counters & Questions:

Now two of your teammates have reacted to bullets. Wesker IMO being the more impressive because he has been able to react to bullets from quality shooters. In comics with bullet timers, simply reacting to bullets doesn't always cut it. I will say this because your two teammates reacted to gun fire they basically new was coming. In this battle they will be primarily be preoccupied by GG & Wolverine who will be taking them on directly, while a Lord DS snipes them from afar. Lord DS fired a bullet through the earth to hit a target "half a world away". No amount of buildings or anything else you hide behind will protect you.

I wonder have either actually been able to dodge a sniper bullet while not knowing straight off the bat where the bullet is coming from and while being engaged in melee combat?

Goblins fire is quite hot and powerful. The fire is going to hurt and keep much of your team at bay and also help further prevent a speed blitz. I wonder how well your team holds up against heat attacks like this? An attack that can be shot and aimed or AOE, an attack powerful enough to blow up a building.

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As Wolverine runs straight up the middle for either Wesker or Wrath...or both. If your team decides to take the bait: Lord DS will snipe them, while GG hits them with fire balls. Yes the fireballs may hit Wolverine as well, but he has recovered quite quickly from heat attacks.

Here in New X-Men during the planet X story line he was able to regenerate very quickly after standing right next to the sun.

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Basically my team is going to turn Downtown into a BBQ Pit & your team is the Pork Ribs. Then Lord DS will add the salt and pepper and rain down sniper shots, while Chef Wolverine shish kabobs. Basically we are going to eliminate any potential 1 vs 1 stuff, by fully attacking you as a team.

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A Closer Look:

Let' take a look at some of the things you've gone over.

1. I really can't sneak up on you, honestly while this point is 100% true so far, it's irrelevant because Wolverine and my team would at least know your basic powers from the get go and wouldn't bother wasting time with stealth, when you're main powerhouse can perceive auras.

Because Bartimeus can perceive auras of any living thing and recognize them:

2. Bartimeus will transform and sneak up on us and get the first shot in.

He may transform into something, but if he truly makes a 100% transformation, he'll have to come out of it right before he attacks. While he still may be killed or hurt in one of Goblins flame attacks while Goblin is spraying pretty much all over downtown. I wonder does his durability stay at 100% levels while he is transformed into a dog or a fly, etc? Or is he vulnerable? If not, that's fine, he could end up getting cooked anyway. I'll let you tell me how well he holds up vs fire damage of this explosive nature.

3. Bartimeus has great striking and strength feats...

Well when it comes to Bart's great striking feats, I will say both of my frontline guys have excellent blunt force durability. When it comes to Wolverine, he's taken hits time and time again from class 100 characters(everyone from Wonderman to Thing, Hulk, Rulk), and most notability WW Hulk. I really doubt Barts best shot will phase Wolverine in the least.

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When it comes to Goblin, he has taken shots from Ult Spiderman who was strong enough to lift an 18 Wheeler and repeatedly slam Ult GG, although Ult Spidey was fatigued and wounded. Also if need be, I can show off Ult Spidey's excellent striking feats as well. Let's also add in there Ult GG has been hit with Ult Caps shield more than once. I can also show some incredibly striking feats for his shield as well. At the end of the day Bart's best hits aren't going to do much to my two front line guys.

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If you decided to hit GG, every time you do so you will be putting yourself at risk. Ult GG can light his entire body on fire during combat, meaning every time you hit him you will be hurt by his flames.

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4. Using fiery bolts.

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Now while your fiery bolts are impressive, I've already gone over Wolverine's fire damage resistance through his healing factor. Let's go over Ult GG's. Using these bolts would be a terrible strategy, not only has he tank several powerful energy attacks, but if these "fiery bolts" of yours will probably just further amp and charge Ult GG up.

Ult GG took blasts from Ult Iron Man, got slammed by Cap's Shield, Shot Up, and further blasted all at once. He did all this while actually powering down and starting to transform back into Osborne.

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He lived through that BTW and he had already taken a lot of damage before that in that Ultimate Sinister Six story line.

Ult GG was able to absorbed a very pissed off Ult Human Torches best attack during the Death of Spiderman story.

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Basically it did nothing, but serve as fuel for Ult GG. Your fiery bolts is sort of like attacking Popeye with a can full of spinach.

5. King Bradley using his sword strikes on Wolverine. If and when Wrath attacks Wolverine, I'm sure he will go for stabs and slashes as you have shown up above. If he stabs Wolverine that would be a huge mistake on his part, Wolverine would then have time to make a counter blow much as he did vs the Silver Samurai(Whom might I add is a superior swordsman to Wrath. No offense to King Bradley.)

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Basically if King Bradley reaches out and extends his arm for a slash or a stab, he'll be pulling back a nub. Wolverine could dismember him quite efficiently. Wolverine has faced a list of very skilled swordsman, many of whom by feats are more skilled than Bradley. Also keep in mind even though you have the unbreakable swords buff, it still pales in comparison to the power of SS's Tachyon Energy field sword. Wolverine being able to tank damage from it and then return a blow in turn is very impressive.

When it comes to Ult GG piercing damage resistance, he is basically near bulletproof level. He has tanked high caliber gun fire, time and time again.

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He has even tanked the specially made Hulkbuster guns while on the Shield Hellicarrier. Guns that were described as Shield's "Best Guns" by Agent Carol Danvers.

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Even though you may cut, slash, and stab him Ult GG will survive and then return blows in the form of AOE fire bomb blasts. Blasts that Wrath will not survive. So you see the strategy of close range combat with the Ult GG is not a good one, even though you may be faster.

6. Your teams speed.

Although your team's speed is very impressive, it's really nothing Wolverine & Ult GG haven't dealt with. The issue of speed for my sniper Lord DS is more of can he shoot and tag you, I'll get into that a bit more later, although I did show him shooting Mystique motorbike while in a high speed chase . For now let's focus on your team's combat speed while they attack my two front line guys.

Wolverine has tagged faster opponents than Wesker or Wrath and even has a specif plan to deal with speedsters.

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Oh and when it comes to combat speed Wolverine is no slob himself. He has some incredible speed feats.

Moves so fast he tags Bishop as he was teleporting.
Moves so fast he tags Bishop as he was teleporting.
Straight up dodges direct gun fire from a very accurate shooter.
Straight up dodges direct gun fire from a very accurate shooter.
Reacts to machine gun fire and moves after it's been fired. Notice how Wolverine reacts to the gun fire even though his back is turned.
Reacts to machine gun fire and moves after it's been fired. Notice how Wolverine reacts to the gun fire even though his back is turned.

I can get into more of his speed feats if need be, but that should do for now.

Although 2 of your characters are straight up bullet timers, that really shouldn't be a problem for Ult GG. He not only has the fire blasts and AOE to slow them down with, but he has also tagged a bullet timer in Ult Spiderman numerous times. So in reality although your team as some very impressive speed feats, it shouldn't be a problem for Goblin.

Ultimate Spiderman Bullet Timing Machine Gun Fire, Twisting His Body to avoid specific bullets.
Ultimate Spiderman Bullet Timing Machine Gun Fire, Twisting His Body to avoid specific bullets.



7. Wesker's durability.

Wesker's durability is very nice, but it's not going to matter a whole lot when he is getting stabbed and sliced by adamantium or punched by GG who was strong enough to beat his son Ult Hobgoblin to death with his bare hands. I'll refrain from posting that scan now, because I'm going to post it later and tie it into another topic.

8. Bart tanking bullets & shields.

While Bartimeus your demon friend is engaged with Goblin and Wolverine he has no reason to raise his shield in case of bullet attacks as he doesn't know from what direction and when Lord DS will be sniping.



When it comes to the topic of simply tanking Lord DS, your going to have to show he can tank those oh so special acid and explosive rounds with they are set off by Lord DS. The bullets will already be in your demon friend and when they are set off they will cause a lot of internal damage to Bartimeus.

Also I wonder how strong those shields of his are? Can they tank bullets durable and strong enough to penetrate through the Earth's core and pass through to the other side?

I could see those bullets busting those shields down if they don't have the feats to prove otherwise.

In Conclusion:

  • My team has a superior plan, one that involves a specific way of slowing yours down.
  • My team has the durability, reaction times, and powers to deal with yours.
  • My team will not get drawn into 1 vs 1 match ups and fight the entire fight as a team the entire time.
  • My team should take the majority over yours by burning yours alive with Ult Goblin, slicing and dicing with Wolverine, and raining down super bullets from Lord DS.

PS: If you think I could run into trouble by having my 2 guys vs your 3 in melee combat, while Lord DS snipes, you've got another thing coming. :D I can prove by feats both of my guys can teambust high quality street level opponents.

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#26 Posted by NeonGameWave (19333 posts) - - Show Bio

Really awesome :)

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#27 Edited by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero: Great post! You did avoid a few points in my assessment tough o.u

I'll reply here after I've had my post up for the street tourney, I'm assuming we are taking a rather loose timetable here while the tourney's isn't :)

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#28 Edited by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat: If I missed anything please point it out and I'll go into it.

Yeah, time line is gonna be pretty loose. Slow and easy. ;) I'll try not to be too slow though.

I do have a question; Who do you feel were bullet timers that Bradley Blitzed? Fastest 2 people Bradley fought were Greedling and Greed. He owned Greed, but the Greedling fights were very even.

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#29 Posted by Pierpat (5780 posts) - - Show Bio

@lukehero: He has blitzed every member of the oriental trio, and they are all faster than al and ed who are bullet timers.

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#30 Posted by MICKEY-MOUSE (36334 posts) - - Show Bio

@pierpat said:

@lukehero: He has blitzed every member of the oriental trio, and they are all faster than al and ed who are bullet timers.

OK. :D