do PC superman vs kid naruto next.
at this point we should pit Naruto against Lucifer Morningstar
Lol, such fodders are not even worth Naruto's time. Kid Naruto needs at least infinite omnipotent characters to even scratch an atom of his body.
Guys, I understand that this CAV is absolutely ridiculous and that the Naruto wank has gone out of control. But this was made due to the fact that Animefreak1 called me out on it. He stands by his statements as hard as it is for many of us to believe.
In the end, just T4V OR TAEP and move on.
I don't want to close this again due to mini debates.
Goku, originally named Kakarot, was born on an alien planet called Vegeta, inhabited by aliens called Saiyans. Goku survived the planet's destruction as he was sent on a mission to Earth to subjugate the planet.
After landing on Earth, the young Saiyan was found in the woods by an old man named Gohan and became his adopted grandson. Grandpa Gohan names him "Son Goku". Goku was an aggressive, violent and unruly child until he fell down a deep ravine and hit his head, entering a coma. Upon awakening from the coma, he suffered from amnesia, making Goku forget his original mission and his aggressive Saiyan characteristics, becoming a kind and mild-mannered child. His Grandpa Gohan taught him martial arts and told him about such things as the city and people, as they lived in a very remote place in Mount Paozu, with no communication with other people.
Gohan one day discovered Goku's full moon transformation, and thus told him to never look at the full moon. However, one night Goku did, and he transformed into a Great Ape, causing him to unknowingly kill Gohan. After his grandpa's death, Goku stayed at his home, carrying out his daily life of survival until he stumbled upon Bulma, starting out his adventures and journey to becoming the world's greatest martial artist.
Ki control which enables flight and concentrated ki blasts.
Instant transmission. Can travel anywhere around the universe via ki sensing.
Goku is able to sense the Ki of others and adjust his own Ki output at will.
Zenkai boosts that grants more power from post death battles.
Martial artist genius. Has been trained by gods constantly.
Spirit bomb allows to create a powerful blow by gathering the beings/surroundings energies.
Kaio-ken technique which multiplies base power however the user can handle. (Can be use on top of SSJ transformations.)
Super saiyan transformations from SSJ1 up to SSJBK X20. The higher the form the more destructive capability/durability.
Has control of God ki that can rival even the gods of destruction themselves.
SSJ God form allows the user to heal from wounds.
Has the hakai ability which erases the individual from existence (manga).
Ultra and master ultra instinct techniques/form that grants the user to move automatically without thought.
Goku is able to sense the Ki of others and adjust his own Ki output at will.
Goku is able to transfer ki as seen when he gave a cut in half frieza.
Kamehameha.The Kamehameha is a move where the user channels all their ki to a single concentrated point between their cupped hands, and release it as a powerful ki blast.
Hakai: Hakai is a powerful ability mainly used by the Gods of Destruction, which essentially destroys the target.
Goku's power throught the series has come to the point in which now rivals the most powerful beings in the universe such as the gods of destruction. The gods of destruction are known to be the main force of balance in their own respective universe and can destroy anything at will even including the universe itself. Goku, even before achieving god ki ,was able to show impressive power as shown below.
Adult Goku fighting piccolo in late dragon ball was able to go hand to hand with the namekian even to the point of being able to flip a giant piccolo. According to the Super Exciting Guide and Daizenshuu Piccolo's base weight is 116kg and his size increased by 10 times. One of Goku's most memorable moments was how he was able to recoil towards piccolo using his energy blast.
At the climax of the battle Goku still fights even when having an open wound in his shoulder (which was caused by one of piccolo's most powerful attack) and defeats him with a powerful head blow to the gut. This fight and feats were possible with Goku and Piccolo having mere power levels of both 260! This is confirmed in the Daizenshuu 7.
Goku flips a giant piccolo:
Goku deals a powerful blow:
When Goku arrives to fight the saiyans it is clear how vastly his power has increased. At this point, he has a base power level of over 8,000. Having able to overcome the effects of 10g and learning the kaio-ken technique Goku was able to humiliate Nappa. Nappa had a power level of 4,000 and was able to easily level an entire city that was able to be seen from space. While Vegeta has a confirmed power level of 18,000.
When the Goku and Vegeta battle started it looks obvious that the prince of all saiyans has the upper hand, but Goku quickly manages to overcome Vegeta when he used his kaio-ken attack x3 which enable him not only surpass him in power but also in speed. At this kaio-ken x3 form, Goku was able to dodge Vegeta's attack but also kicking hard through multiple rock pillars.
After that, a Vegeta humiliated tries to go and do all out attack that is stated and confirmed to able to destroy the whole planet. This is of course when both fighters focus their most powerful attack, but Goku follows through and uses the kaio-ken x4 to overpower Vegeta's Galick gun successfully. In the end, Vegeta gets defeated by the spirit bomb and leaves the planet thereafter at the mercy of Goku's request.
Goku humiliates Nappa:
Goku's kaio-ken x3 form dodging Vegeta's attack and dealing powerful blows:
Goku successfully deflects Vegeta Planet busting attack:
When Goku arrives to planet Namek after getting to train under 100g gravity, not only does Goku show the power gap now between him and Vegeta but the Ginyu force as a whole as well. At this point Goku was able to amp up the kaioken up to x10. Goku was able to take down Reccome in one blow without effort. Even shocking both jeice and burter, since they both couldnt register what had happened. Goku manhandles them both which he easily defeats Burter and spares jeice but obviously bolts back to get Captain Ginyu to finish him off.
Foolishly, Jeice brings Captain Ginyu and gets cocky only to find out later that he was fighting a non serious Goku all along. When Goku powers up using the kaio-ken technique was able to exhibit a power level of 180,000! This is enough to contest even with a great ape form Vegeta. Ginyu with a power level of 120,000 decided wound himself and bodyswap with Goku. While taking a beating and getting his body back, Goku would eventually get back to meet a final form frieza.
Goku with a power level of 180,000 using kaio-ken:
Goku arrives with a power level of 3,000,000 same as frieza's power level. As they start, Goku was easily able to deflect frieza's death beams even tagging along evenly for a brief moment. As the fight went on, Goku was able to resist powerful blows from frieza's even when it was clear that Frieza's power level was still above Goku even with the kaioken technique. .
In a desperate attempt, Goku goes all out by using the kaio-ken up to 20x to which that brief moment uses the Kamehameha that manages to do really do Frieza damage but at the cost draining most of his stamina. After this, Goku would use the spirit bomb. The spirit bomb in space was so big that it was able to cast a glare on the planet itself and with the combined energy of nearby planets the total power of the spirit bomb accumulated to 100,000,000.
Failing at destoying frieza, this will unleash his hidden super saiyan form at the cost of his best friend life. Once In Super saiyan form, this power multiplies the user's base power up to x50. In this state Goku has a power level of 150,000,000! The most impressive feat in this form was how Goku manage to punch back a planet busting attack and able to humiliate Frieza at his full power. Eventually, Goku would know that frieza would lose due to his 100% final form draining ki quickly. At the mercy of leaving, Frieza still tries to kill Goku but ends up dying to his own attack while Goku manages to escapes fast enough before planet Namek explodes.
SSJ Goku shows superiority over Frieza:
Official Power levels during namek saga:
During the androids saga, there isnt much to see other than knowing that Goku learned instant transmission and was able to block SSJ Future Trunk's ki sword with his mere finger. Which by all means, is insane knowing that same sword was able to dice Frieza quite easily. This shows how easily he could have defeated Frieza which he did in the original timeline.
During the cell saga, After finishing his time in the time chamber, Goku demonstrated his power in korins tower and korin begged him to stop since it would have destroyed it if he went full out.
When the cell games begin, Goku now having perfected the super saiyan form is on par so evenly with perfect cell that even the Z fighters see no clear advantage in either side. As a final strike to cell, Goku creates a Kamehameha in tandem with Instant Transmission, teleporting behind Cell right before he releases it, that threatened to destroy Earth and destroys the upper half of Cell's body.
It was also stated that cell at full strength had enough ki to blow up the entire solar system. So, Goku being able to fight evenly with cell should put him near at that level.
Goku instant transmissions and deals cell a powerful blow:
Full power cell stating that he can destoy the solar system:
In the buu arc, Goku coming back for 1 day we see that Goku has obtained SSJ2 and SSJ3 transformations. When he meet Dabura he was aware that he was around perfect cell level and didn't even felt worried about destroying him. One of Goku's most powerful moments was when he transformed into SSJ3. When powering up,Goku’s Ki as SSJ3 is so strong it shakes the Earth and transcends the mortal realm that king kai begs him to stop powering up in fear that his time will be up.
Goku was easily able to paddle around fat buu and was convinced that he could have finished him off but wanted to pass on that responsibility to others since he cant be there to protect the Earth forever. Later on, when goku went to the supreme kai world and fought kid buu as a ssj3. As the battle went on, it was clear that the power between the two was so intense that you could even see the shock waves from space being scatter around.
In the final act of the fight vs kid buu, goku was able to gather the energy of every living being on earth for the super spirit bomb which eventually would defeat buu when gaining his strength back. This is the strongest spirit bomb that Goku had ever made at this point of the series.
The only drawback to this power is that it drains stamina really fast and Goku hasn't fully master it yet until the battle of gods arc. The SSJ2 form multiplies the base power x100 while the SSJ3 multiplies it by x400.
Feeling Goku's power even on the supreme kai world and shock waves seen on the supreme kai world:
In the battle of gods arc, Goku would acheive a new form called SSJ God. Goku prior mastering ultra instinct had displayed power that was already putting the brink of the universe to be destroyed. SSJ God is leagues inferior to MUI and its punches created shockwaves that put the universe at peril.
The Dragon Ball universe is roughly the same size of ours with consisting of 4 main galaxies which are the north, south, west, and east. This also contains heaven and hell as well as the supreme kai world.
So essentially, Goku and Beerus were going to destroy the universe and realms and that just Goku in his SSJ god form trading blows with beerus. Ultra instinct alone seems to even rival all the gods of destructions as evident by beerus who didn't even use MUI. All of which have the ability to destroy their own respective universe as well as being able to erase beings out of existence.
This other scan further supports that MUI is beyond universal output since champa and beerus weren’t going all out and were casually destroying planets to eventually trying to destroy both universe 6 and 7 out of pure tantrum. Beerus even using Ultra Instinct was able to hold on his own for a while against all of the gods of destruction mainly by dodging rather than attacking.
Note that both of them were not using UI nor was implied, and were able to fully destroy the universe without being at their peak. The UI was the form that put the gods of destruction in awe and nervous showing that this form can surpass them easily.
Goku at the end of the series is an absolute power house. MUI Goku was able to achieve the complete form of UI that the gods of destruction try to so hard to achieve.The UI form rivaled Jiren. Jiren was able to shake the world of void which is stated to be infinite. This highlights that not even at full power they both possess power that is incomprehensible and beyond normal understanding.
MUI has the power to surpass a being that was stronger than his own god of destruction quite handily as well as handling one of its strongest attacks with his finger tips. At their peak their striking power should already be above universal+.
This power also melts through the Kachi Katchin. In the anime, it was said by the Grand Minister that Kachi Katchin is even stronger than Universe 7's Katchin and was used to create the arena for the Tournament of Power. It is presumably the hardest material in the multiverse.
MUI Goku shows superiority:
Goku catches one of Jiren's most powerful attacks:
Goku punches through the kachi katchin:
Note that all of this happened in mere seconds since the tournament was already near its end. Goku and Jiren at their peak arguably even surpass the gods of destruction as even them acknowledged the great power that both possessed. Their power output and reaction are ridiculous high that is absurd that Naruto would even come close to this let alone Namek saga characters of power.
MUI Goku is MFTL+ since the body reacts before the brain electrical sensations can reach the users brain as stated by whis. It makes each and every part of the body respond at will. It’s just as the name states the body reacts simply based on “instinct” that allows power to be pushed to its limits.
Even before achieving MUI, early Dragon Ball Z Goku was already displaying incredible speed feats.
Serpent Road is established in both the manga and the Daizenshuu as being approximately 1 million kilometers in length.
From Daizenshuu 7:
Special Characteristics: A road that links the northern Kaio Planet with Enma Daio’s castle. It’s called the Serpent Road because it is shaped like a serpent. Its total length is approximately 1 million kilometers. If you lose your footing on this road, you will fall into Hell and will be unable to return.
Events: Enma Daio had previously crossed this road. It took Goku 6 months to cross this road going to Planet Kaio, and a day and a half to return. (Daizenshuu 4, p.72)
Anime: Serpent Princess’s castle is located along it. (Daizenshuu 3, p.162) Because it is swept by a garbage truck driven by an oni in charge of cleaning the road, there is not a single piece of trash on it.
So how about we move on down the line? After Goku's training during the Saiyan Saga, King Kai estimated it would take Goku 2 days to travel snake-way. Snake-way is said to be 1,000,000 km long, so 1,000,000km in 2 days is equal to 20,830 km/h, or 5.8 km/s. However, on his return journey, Goku flew over snake-way, rather than running along its curved path. This would have cut the length of his journey in half or less, so we can conclude that Goku's speed at this time is less than or equal to 2.9 km/s. Were still pretty far off from lightspeed.
During his fight with Nappa, Goku's power-level was stated to be 8,000. Goku's highest officially stated power-level is 150,000,000, when he went super-saiyan on Namek (this is not stated in the show, but is listed in the Daizenshuu, an official DBZ encyclopedia written by Toriyama and his assistants). At this point, Goku is 18,750 times stronger than during his fight with Nappa. When Goku arrives to meet Frieza on namek he has a power level of 3,000,000 and should be close to LS since he was able to get across the planet and get there before Frieza killed Vegeta.
After his battle on namek, Goku would go to planet Yardrat to learn about instant transmission. The teleportation works by focusing on someone's ki and teleporting there. So as long as Goku can feel a specific ki, he can travel anywhere in the universe without any problem. This is actually one of his most common speed technique since he gains the upper hand by catching his opponents off guard with this amount of speed.
This is more apparent when he used his Kamehameha on cell and when Goku escaped from Buu's destruction ball on Earth.
Prior to the UI the kaioken x10 was already moving faster than time as evident with the battle in the Universe 6 arc with hit. Jiren being stronger than kaioken x20 and UI was able to dominate the time skipping assassin as well as break out of the time cage. Both Goku and Jiren at their peak surpass the concept of time handily.
Though, in the manga, SSJ God was on par with dealing with timepskip and when turning into SSJ Blue it was able to completely overcome Hit's timeskip. However, this demonstrates that blue being inferior to Ultra instinct is already faster than both time and the speed of light. With that said, MUI Goku will dodge and attack almost instantaneously without the enemy registering his movements.
While using True Ultra Instinct and fighting Full Power Jiren, in DBS chapter 41, Goku moved faster than Krillin or Piccolo could see:
The amount of speed that MUI Goku is absolute bonkers to the point of being able to humiliate Jiren a being that already surpasses his own god of destruction.
Now, Goku's durability is incredible due to the fact that the more ki one has the more durability, power, and strength the user has. Even in late dragon ball we see that Goku was very durable even with low power level.
In the piccolo jr saga, we have witness that goku is able to fight even with piccolo but the most impressive feats during this fight was how Goku is able to tank an island level attack with a power level of 260! Goku was also able to fight after piccolo deal a power blow that ended up making Goku had a gap wound on his shoulder.
Goku survives piccolo's island attack:
Goku still fights with a gap in his shoulder:
Now, in the Raditz fight, Goku have a power level of 416 only. When Goku charged up his Kamehaheha and concentrated his Ki in a single point, his Power Level reached 924
Just an example that Ki is a fluctuating power source as depending on how it is charged up and use can increase greatly.
Going back to Roshi, even though we don’t know the exact amount of Ki Roshi used in his Kamehameha to destroy the moon. A minimum Power Level of 139 can act as a bench mark that the character is capable to tank a moon-busting-force if that character can charge up and power-up by raising their Ki ‘s sufficiently enough and apply that raised Ki into their body to increase their durability.
Raditz displaying Goku's power level:
Roshi is the reference scale that answers that Goku could tank a moon busting force if Goku could raise his Ki to a certain level that will increase his durability to tank the said force. Because remember Goku at the saiyan saga when he came back from his training with King Kai has a power level of 8000 already. And there are many 139’s in 8000.
In the saiyan saga, Goku have an enormous amount of Ki reaching an amount of 8000 that he can use on his physical attributes like durability, potent damage, speed, vision, hearing etc for his fight.
Goku radiating Ki with an amount of 8000 as per Vegeta’s scouter:
Take note.. this is only Goku radiating his enormous Ki in the saiyan saga. Kaioken is still not applied on him here. Kaioken is a technique that can multiply further the user’s amount of Ki into their body in exchange of destroying one’s own body.
Goku blocked a full powered Ki blast from Nappa who have a Power Level of 4000 (according to the official guidebook) using his Ki alone, proving that someone who have a higher amount of Ki could neutralize a poweful Ki blast.
Take note.. this is Nappa who have a Power Level of 4000, who is massively more powerful than Roshi who is only 139 in the old Dragon Ball, capable of destroying a moon.
Now that you’ve understand that Goku has a Moon-level durability. It’s time to raise the bar. Goku at Namek saga have already a durability of planetary level IF Goku tries to apply Ki into his body in a certain level where his body could withstand a force in planetary level of destruction.
Goku tanks Nappa's attack:
How do I know that Goku have a planetary durability? This is because multiple times in the series, Goku was shown to withstand forces that could obliterate a planet. For example: In the saiyan saga.. Vegeta used his Galick Gun at full power to destroy the planet where Goku used his Kaioken x4 to push back a force that could destroy the planet
What’s the relationship of this planetary force from Vegeta to determine Goku’s durability? Because in order to withstand an impending force, the body should be able to generate the same level of force to neutralize an equivalent force in order to tank it. If Goku cannot generate an equal level of force from Ki to block an incoming force of power (which was generated by Ki as well) that is capable of destroying a planet, then he couldn’t tank it.
In the saiyan saga arc, Goku used up all his Ki (powered by Kaioken) to push back the full powered Galick Gun from Vegeta that was powerful enough to destroy the planet. This leave Goku very drained after.
According to official documents, Vegeta’s power level back in saiyan saga was 18,000
Overall, what does this mean? This means that a 24,000 amount of Ki (or Power Level) is sufficient enough to destroy a planet like Earth. Therefore, anyone who have a Power Level of 24,000 or can generate Ki that will amount of 24,000 could tank a planetary level force.
When Goku arrived in Namek, Goku’s Power Level was 90,000 after his 100x gravity training, allowing him to put Ki into his elbows that knocked down Recoome in one hit.
Does this mean Goku’s elbow strike is more powerful than Vegeta’s full powered Ki blast used against Recoome? Yes,However, these Ginyu forces guys thought that Goku’s Power Level was only 5000 (because Goku was hiding it). They didn’t know that Goku’s real Power Level was 90,000! In an instant, Goku put a portion of his 90,000 Ki instantly into his elbow and strike down Recoome defenseless wherein Recoome was not ready to raise his Ki to guard up his defenses as Goku suddenly raised his Ki in a flash, since Recoome was under the impression that Goku was only 5000.
This was mentioned by Vegeta in the manga itself:
Goku at the Namek saga of DBZ had already a power level of 3 Million when he fought Frieza. And if a power level of 24,000 is needed to destroy a planet, Goku at his normal form when he fought Frieza in Namek could already tank tons of 24,000’s on his base form alone!
And that is only the beginning of planetary durability in Dragon Ball. Goku at his weakest Super Saiyan form back in Namek saga had a Power Level of 150 Million already. Which means that Goku can tank tons of 24,000’s planetary level of attack as a Super Saiyan back in Namek.
What does this mean? As long as Goku had enough Ki (in this case 150 Million), he could tank a lot of planetary level of attacks. One must drain his Ki first in order to damage Goku for real and knock him out. Because as long as Goku have tons of Ki on his arsenal, he can tank tons of planetary damages in him since Goku can use those Ki inside his body to toughen up his body and tank those planetary level of forces.
Now, why didnt Frieza's death beam work on Goku when Frieza’s death beam could blow up an island or a continent in Namek? Because Goku in this scenario was in Super Saiyan where his Ki is heightened up because of the 50x multiplier effect. Goku’s Ki is active in this scenario. Whereas in ROF when he was shot down from the back, his Ki was not active to protect him from incoming damage.
Goku tanks death beam to the face:
In the battle of gods arc, Goku has insane durability. Even though, Beerus is not serious in their fight, the level of Ki they’re emitting was powerful enough to shake the entire universe and destroy planets and other heavenly bodies. Do you think Goku would be able to withstand punches from Beerus if Goku have no Ki that can amplify his durability to withstand those punches capable of shaking an entire universe? No. if Goku doesn’t have the strong Ki to amplifies his durability, he wouldn’t stand a chance at all. Just like how Beerus toyed SSJ3 with one-hit and those Cell Jr.’s when SSJ2-Gohan hit them.
Goku has a massive amount of Ki on his arsenal that he can use to back up his durability to withstand Ki Blasts that could destroy moons, planets, solar systems or punches that could even shake an entire universe. All because of his Ki. But with Ki, this allows Goku to transcend his durability so much, he could withstand all kinds of damages. As long as Goku have his Ki to help him toughen up his body, he can withstand any incoming damage and he can fight. The only way to beat Goku is to make him relax, tired, drained and weak. SSJ God Goku in this state can also regeneration from piercing blows as seen when he fell from earth and healing unconsciously.
If someone can force Goku to use up all his Ki, then the more Goku expend his Ki, the lesser his durability will become. But to someone who have an enormous amount of Ki on his arsenal that is already within the boundaries of universal (SSG) like Goku, and can still continue rising up from there by transforming and powering up i.e., SSB with Kaioken up to x20 and then Ultra Instinct which only not improve his durability but also his evasion rate by 99%, someone so strong should force Goku to use all his Ki on him to lessen his durability.
Goku tanks beeru's death ball sphere:
Goku is able to regnerate after Beerus pierces his body:
In the Zamasu arc, Goku was able to hold on its own against Goku Black and Zamasu even with an open wound in the body from Goku Black. Even after taking strikes from Goku Black, Goku was still survive and came back to the main timeline with that huge gap in his body. Goku when fighting merged zamasu was able to withstand massive ki blasts that were scorching the Earth as well as when he grabbed Goku's foot and ki squeeze it.
Goku alongside with Vegeta were able to survive a punched in base form from Merged Zamasu but this would obviously only give them enough ki to block it but not fight afterwards. Nevertheless, its impressive that being so under-powered they were able to survive said punch.
In the manga, perfect SSI Blue Goku was able to go head to head with fused Zamasu. While, the fight went on Goku was able to resist getting kicked by Fused Zamasu and at that point in time the supreme kai of universe 7 stated that Fused Zamasu could be comparable to Beerus! Goku was also able to resist the kachi katchin which is the hardest material in the universe to the face.
Fused Zamasu kicks Goku around:
Goku takes the kachi katchin to the face and supreme kai is amazed at fused zamasu's power:
Enraged Goku fights Goku Black and Zamasu with an open gap in his body:
So overall, how good is Goku’s durability? Considering Goku’s amount of Ki is already in billions or trillions or probably at this point immeasurable, I’d say Goku’s durability can be amplified enormously that it’s not a joke.
Not going to lie, I find this CaV to be an insult to true Naruto fans, and being the definition of blind fanboyism itself. That said CV already surprised me more than once so:
I excpect nothing other than absurdly extreme wank for Naruto and confuse lowball for Goku, but as I said the life and this site are full of surprises.
how can u call it kaguya wank? we saw on panel her bout destroying her multi star containing dimension...naruto cant be scaled to solar system tho, multi continental-planetary at best, cuz he scales above toneri
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