CaV: Momoshiki(EpichotFlame) Vs Bullet(Eazy2002)

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Both start in base form

Canon Feats only.

All In Character.

Haki=/=Chakra

No prep time.

Battle takes place on the Naruto Earth.

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@rikuyamaha yup, thanx and dope pics for the 2...its made, bruh @eazy2002, imma post my opener first since u aint always on

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@rikuyamaha: Bullets pic could be better...not to complain or anything

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MOMOSHIKI OTSUTSUKI

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BIO

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Momoshiki AKA Momo is one of the high ranked members of the Otsutsuki clan, a god clan in the Naruto/Borutoverse. His clan goes around from planet to planet, surface wiping it, harvesting divine trees and then, consumes chakra fruits from it, obtaining ridiculous amount of power instantly.

MOMOSHIKI'S POWER LEVEL

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Momo shouldn't be underestimated as he is one of the god tiers in his universe. He consistently consumes red earth pills, the more he consumes, the more power and immortality he obtains. I would go over few scaling for Momo-

-Bee in his tailed beast mode covered this much area and wrecked everything in sight just by spinning his body and his eight tails:

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we already know 4 tailed chakra cloak (weaker form of tailed beasts) dented the earth's surface just with a shock wave caused by it's casual roar-

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-So Bee's eight tail whirlwind that covered and was wrecking a small city worth of space just by spinning his body and eight tails, placing Bee's Gyuuki mode's physicals at multi mountain lvl.

then, we also have Bee's tailed beast bomb that was finger flicked by Juubi back to Bee causing a small city lvl AoE (considering how small Gyuuki looks compared to the radius of the blast) with mountain erasing AP:

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with those said, Bee should be resting at small island lvl of power.

Now let's see how Base Momo handled Bee in their encounter-

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-that's right, like an utter fodder in Base Momo's sight, even small island lvl, as i have shown you is complete fodder to Base Momo.

But that's not all, Base Momo even states he is capable of surface wiping earth (seedbed is referred to as planet):

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this isn't beyond Base Momo's capacity as we have already seen him surface wiping another planet before arriving to earth, below is just a screenshot of part of the wiped planet's view and some divine trees he planted afterwards (even the novel confirms this but as promised, i wont go further into more details on the novel):

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as i have just explained and shown, Base Momo alone is a planet surface wiper putting him at multi-continental lvl in Base, imagine what Fused Momo would be capable of.

Momo also scales above Kaguya who i think you already know is multi star lvl at best with her Expansive Truth Seeker Orbs which had the potential to expand to the size of her dimension which contained several celestial bodies/satellites (including multiple stars) and she wanted to wipe everything clean just to remake a new dimension:

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you may ask, how does Momo scale to/above ETSO? well, in the Naruto/Borutoverse, more chakra imbued into a destructive technique=greater destructibility of that technique, Kaguya utilised a sufficient amount of chakra to potentially expand her ETSO to the size and erase her dimension, same could be said for Momo, being as novel in details mentions Base Momo star busting (if u want scans I can provide), so its not far stretched to say Momo applying more chakra into his technique (like TBB) would potentially be on par with Kaguya's technique but anyways, i don't see how it matters because Bullet has no feats to suggest he can even tank Base Momo's casual seconds-to-charge attack.

even knowing that Kaguya ate the chakra fruit and disobeyed clan orders to wait till it was declared to harvest earth, Momo himself was disgusted by Kaguya's actions and was ready to manhandle her:

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Its not far stretched for Momo being above Kaguya which I would get into....as we all know, Kaguya has only eaten 1 chakra fruit but Momo has been consistently taking in red earth pills which are refined from the chakra fruit:

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in order words, Momo has taken in better refined power from the chakra fruits than Kaguya. Momo has consumed a total of 15 red earth pills on panel, 3 at the start of the encounter with Bee, 3 from Bee, 4 during his first TBB release and 5 during his 2nd TBB release, not only that, even chakra fruit(s) which he has consumed after planting multiple divine trees, notice how I put the (s) in chakra fruit in bold? that's because Kaguya has only eaten 1 chakra fruit while Momo has eaten multiple of those, as u can see in the first 2 scans below, Momo is enjoying a Chakra fruit and 3rd scan we see multiple of those planted on the planet there were on:

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and just by merely powering up, Fused Momo displayed a multi-mountain lvl feat:

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not to mention, Base Momo should scale to/above Base Kinshiki who was stated in the databooks to possess the potential to split worlds:

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it's also consistent with how another Otsutsuki member was able to do this accidentally, he wasn't even intending to split the moon, he was aiming to kill Naruto:

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and Momo> kinshiki>Toneri, in Otsutsuki clan, they have different tiers, like Urashiki knowing Toneri is his superior.

Even Toneri, same guy that did that^ by accident, felt the presence of his superiors (i.e Momo and Kinshiki) and commends them as gods:

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he said this just after Momo and Kinshiki were about to depart to earth:

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But anyways, that's it for scaling, on to the next section...

PHYSICAL CAPABILITIES

In this section, ill be going over Momo's best physical capability shown. First thing is strength-

STRENGTH: Momoshiki has some quantifiable strength feat which ill be explaining-

-one of them is Fused Momoshiki having fun while halting the insane KE of Six Path Senjutsu Mode Naruto's concentrated punch and insane KE of Sasuke's concentrated lightning infused punch at the same time (this would also count as blunt force durability):

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Just into context of how powerful an insane KE of SPSM Naruto's concentrated punch is, during Naruto The Last Movie, Naruto's Bijuu Sage Mode's concentrated punch with lesser KE was able to one shot Toneri's Tenseigan Chakra Mode's defence, in case you don't know how tanky TCM is, well, the tenseigan chakra was said to be strong enough to withstand the destruction of the moon:

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also, says in the movie:

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Note: The Tenseigan is the one producing the chakra

Even after the moon stopped moving due to the tenseigan (not the chakra itself) being destroyed by Naruto's rasengan, Toneri was still able to move the moon again as he obtained the tenseigan and gained it's lvl of chakra.

After Toneri obtained the power of the tenseigan, he was able to cloak his body with with it's chakra. This means TCM's defence would be multi-countries lvl due to the moon being partially hollow, now that we know TCM's defence is around multi-countries lvl, lets analyse how potent BSM's Naruto's concentrated punch would be, this is BSM Naruto one shotting TCM's defense with 1 concentrated punch:

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this is how much KE that was applied to that punch:

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...not much if u compare it to the one Fused Momo effortlessly halted. Mind you, that was just BSM Naruto which is below SPSM Naruto in every aspect, difference b/w them is BSM is only composited with 100% kurama's chakra and sage mode while SPSM is composited with 100% kurama's chakra+small portions of all the other 8 tailed beasts' chakra+senjutsu chakra+six paths sage mode, in the Naruto/Borutoverse, more chakra in defence=more defence/durability, that's why 3rd Raikage's cloak's defence is far superior to 4th Raikage's, that's why with the help of Kurama's unrefined cloak, fodders were able to tank tenpechii with no damage, that's why 8 gates Guy could barely one shot six paths Madara even when 7 gates Guy one shotted Madara's humanoid susanoo, etc, with all these said, BSM Naruto's concentrated punch with less KE was able to one shot a multi-countries lvl defence, placing BSM Naruto's concentrated punch at multi-countries+ lvl striking potency, imagine SPSM naruto's concentrated punch with greater KE, placing it at moon+ lvl striking potency. Considering that Fused Momo while having fun, halted the insane KE of that punch+Sasuke's lighting infused punch which should be equally as potent would mean Fused Momo casually has moon+ lvl striking potency, this may seem to you I'm wanking because some people see moon lvl Naruto as a taboo but i have given feats and scans to prove it and just remember there is a difference b/w AP and DC...on to the next bit which is Momo's durability...

DURABILITY: As Momo is one of the god tiers in his universe and has far more superior chakra than most ppl in his universe, he should likely scale above most ppl in the Naruto/Boruto universe which includes Naruto ofc as we just saw before how Momo was flexing on SPSM Naruto's concentrated punch, let's move on with that....

ENERGY DURABILITY: Naruto as we already know, in base, tanked a moon lvl blast caused from his own pure chakra being pulled out:

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as u can see in the gif above, Naruto's chakra was pulled out, hit the earth's surface, caused a small city lvl wide explosion that reached the moon and even busted through it, taking into account the small city lvl width, the distance b/w earth through the moon and the heat melting AP of that blast would place that explosion at moon lvl which Naruto tanked in Base. This means Base Momo's energy durability would likely be higher than Naruto's which is already moon lvl, placing Base Momo's energy durability at moon+ lvl and Fused Momo's energy durability at large continental+ lvl.

PIERCING DURABILITY: A kusanagi sword swung at full force couldn't budge through Momo's neck:

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same kusanagi can potentially damage enma in his indestructible staff transformation which is as hard as diamond (https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Transformation:_Adamantine_Staff):

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BLUNT FORCE DURABILITY: As I showed previously, Momo halted SPSM's Naruto's speed blitz punch+Sasuke's speed blitz punch placing his blunt force durability at moon+ lvl.

...unto speed...

SPEED: Well, we know Fused Momo is capable of keeping up with both Naruto and Sasuke's movement speed at the same time, meaning Fuse Momo is on the same ballpark as Naruto and Sasuke in terms of speed-

-Naruto has quite a few impressive speed feats, one of them is Kurama Chakra Mode (KCM) Naruto being able to move his body faster than 3rd raikage's body and his reactions meaning he is slightly above 4th Raikage in Speed-

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-as we already know, 4th Raikage's reaction speed (synapse) has been stated by a fellow hidden cloud shinobi who would know to some extent what his village leader is capable of, to be able to fire his reactions (synapse) as fast as a flash of light (Light speed):

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then we have 4th Raikage's movement speed:

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as u just read above from the databook written by the author, it states that 4th Raikage's Lariat thrusts his speed almost at the speed of light which can also imply, thrusting his speed at high end relativistic speed, although, this doesn't necessarily mean 4th raikage's movement speed is at high end relativistic speed because the lariat thrusts you at that speed, meaning it boosts your normal movement speed to high end relativistic speed, so 4th Raikage's normal movement speed should be resting at low end relativistic speeds, now that we have that sorted, lets get back to were we left off on KCM Naruto's speed feat which was KCM Naruto finally being able to blitz the Raikage's body speed and reactions placing KCM Naruto already on low end relativistic+ speed with LS reactions.

But no, that's not his best noticeable speed feat, that title should belong to his infamous light speed dodging feat:

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which as you just saw above, from just 1-2 metres away from his face, reacted and dodged Madara's light fang which has been confirmed light speed by the author via databooks:

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that feat alone places SPSM Naruto's movement speed at high end relativistic speed and reaction speed at casual light speed, considering that was done 1-2 metres away from his face-

-now for Naruto's final and most overlooked speed feat:

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being able to match/finally blitz Kaguya in speed, I consider this blitzing feat being able to match, instead of out speeding Kaguya because as we saw before this, Kaguya was effortlessly blitzing SPSM Naruto and his reaction speed:

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but at the end, Naruto was able to repay her back with a blitz, thereby, putting SPSM Naruto at the same speed as Kaguya who was blitzing Naruto's LS reaction speed, in other words, SPSM Naruto's movement speed is LS with low end FTL reactions but enough with teen Naruto's speed feats, lets move over to pre-Hokage Naruto - Hokage naruto's speed feat-

-as we all know in the restuden novel which is canonically inclined to the series, weakened, diseased infected, low-on-chakra Base Hokage Naruto dodged a lazer beam twice which is light speed btw:

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even before this, pre-Hokage Base Naruto was dodging several light beams:

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placing Hokage SPSM (>>>>>>>>base) Naruto at low end faster than light with mid end faster than light reaction speed, which is equally the same speed as Fused Momo which is above Bullet's pay grade.

POWER SET

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BLACK RECEIVERS: Well, these black receivers are black rods which are capable of immobilising and draining chakra (if the victim has chakra lol) when being stabbed into the victim, this is also spammable as Momo could casually spam more than 8 rods simultaneously at Bee:

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these rods were also capable of piercing through a refined and controlled 100% Kurama's thick chakra cloak:

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a weaker cloak like 1 tailed chakra cloak from 50% Kurama absolutely no-sold and took no scratch from a kusunagi sword:

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same sword is capable of potentially damaging Enma in his indestructible staff transformation which is as hard as diamonds (https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Transformation:_Adamantine_Staff):

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...there we have it, the sharpness of the rods exceeds kusanagi's but i felt that was unnecessary since neither Bullet nor his golemn have any piercing durability shown to withstand the black receivers.

DESTRUCTIVE CAPABILITIES

My man, Momoshiki laughably outclasses Bullet in this aspect, all it takes is one big BOOM! yh that's right...

MOMOSHIKI'S TAILED BEAST BOMB: Before I go over how ridiculously overpowered this is compare to anything Bullet can offer/tank, ill be addressing the fact that any tailed beast bomb Momo generates is more potent and destructive than Juubi's (Ten tails'). First of all, we would have to understand what Juubi (Ten tails) is. Juubi in the Naruto/Borutoverse is also known as the divine tree in attack mode, Kaguya as she ate the divine tree's chakra fruit obtained Juubi's power and what Momo has been doing was eating multiple chakra fruits as i have already shown in the "Momoshiki's Power lvl" section above, that means Base Momo dwarfs Juubi in power. Now that's settled, lets begin to compare tailed beast bomb power b/w Momo and the Juubi-

-as we take a look at the scan below, notice how small the tailed beast bomb incomplete Juubi in second form used but was still able to cause such scale of destruction from afar?:

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-lmao that's just child's play for Base Momo, take a look at this:

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Yes, that's right, Momo can generate a mountain sized Juubi bomb within matter of seconds containing enough power to obliterate several countries (which are referred to as Lands in the Naruto/Borutoverse):

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Fortunately for the the Land of Fire and the surrounding Lands, SPSM Naruto was able to soak up the damage from Momo's tailed beast bomb:

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and that was just after he consumed just 4 red earth pills:

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he still had more to consume even after that meaning he can casually generate more destructive TBB within seconds, anyways, unto weapons...

WEAPONS/TOOLS

RED CHAKRA TOOL CREATION TECHNIQUE: This is the technique Kinshiki possesses but after Momoshiki ate Kinshiki in the form of a chakra fruit, Momo was also capable of utilising such technique as well, what this is, is a technique that allows the user to form red chakra into any weapon possible, this is more potent than a Kusanagi sword, as u can see below, unmastered red chakra was still able to no-sell and tank the kusunagi sword with 0 scratch:

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which could even potentially damage Enma in his indestructible staff transformation which is as hard as diamonds (https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Transformation:_Adamantine_Staff):

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DOJUTSU

Dojutsus in the Naruto/borutoverse are special eyes that possesses unique abilities, some dojutsus are hereditary from Clans, some require fusion of another dojutsu (AKA kekkai genkai/kekkai mora), the three main dojutsus known are Rinnegan, Byakugan and Sharingan. Momo possesses just 2 (or 3, if you count the golden rinnegan) dojutsus which ill be going into, first would be the-

BYAKUGAN:

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This dojutsu originated from the Otsutsuki clan, and later inherited by their distant descendants, the Hyuga clan. The abilities of this eye includes:-

  • 360 degrees wide vision with a small blind spot
  • Telescopic vision
  • X-ray vision
  • Fate/future sight, only found in Otsutsuki's byakugan
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MOMOSHIKI'S RINNEGAN:

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This dojutsu has only shown to be used by Momoshiki himself, found on his two palms. The abilities of this eye include:-

  • Absorption with his right palm.
  • Release of abilities absorbed x2 with his left palm.
  • Immune to 5 senses manipulation but it's not going to be that useful since it's on the palms instead of the face.

GOLDEN RINNEGAN:

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This dojutsu is unique to the Otsutsukis only, this only appears when an Otsutsuki member is evolving/transforming from their previous state. The abilities of this eye includes:-

  • Physical enhancement
  • Immune to 5 senses manipulation
  • Repulsion

And lastly, Momoshiki can fly and travel through his portal to anywhere he wants.

THE DEFEAT OF DOUGLAS BULLET

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In this section, ill just be going over how to counter Bullet's power set and capabilities:-

  • Transmutation - Rendered useless since from what i have seen, has only affected non living things and plus it's slow asf compared to Momo and can be easily evaded at all times via flight
  • Bullet nor his golemn have the piercing durability to withstand Momo spamming black receivers which will result in Bullet being immobile.
  • Momo can nuke Bullet with 1 of his TBB which will end him.
  • Momo is durable enough to tank anything Base Bullet or his golemn throws at him
  • Momo can potentially kick the oversized tin can away.
  • Momo can abuse speed blitzing against Bullet

In conclusion: this is just a major spite against Bullet

Thanx for reading XD

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