CaV: MCU Thor (xZone) Vs MCU Doctor Strange (Kryptonianpride) Voting Finished

Stephen Vincent Strange, otherwise known as Mister Doctor to Kaecilius (teehee), was born in New York City and achieved a PhD. in Neuroscience as a young man. He is a brash, direct and no-nonsense personality type and believes himself capable of intellectual prowess that could rival Gods. After crashing his Lambo in an accident and falling off a cliff, he awakes from his disastrous and painful crash with excessive nerve damage in his hands. After months, potentially years of pursuit of clinical trials and radical nerve treatment therapies, he meets Crispus Allen (I am kidding) from the DCU, who tells him that he saw a man with total back nerve damage somehow walking around the city.

Bonus and Fun Fact: The actor who played the physical therapist was the same actor in the DC Justice League movie who played Crispus Allen (The Spectre). Coincidence!? Yea...lol. It was totally a coincidence haha. But, still, a fun theory to play with.

Mister Doctor travels to Nepal and seeks out the Ancient One. He is refused at first but ends up being accepted into the ranks of the school of the mystic arts. He learns at an accelerated rate and after some months/years of training and practice, dawns the mantle of the Master of the Mystic Arts after the Ancient One passes away.

Strange has a powerful photographic memory. He can learn faster than the average genius can and that is what lead to him understanding and excelling at the Mystic Arts.

"I've got a photographic memory. It's how I got my M.D. and Ph.D. at the same time."―Doctor Strange

Dr. Strange has demonstrated that he can teleport Asgardians, effortlessly, to another dimension and keep them there indefinitely.

Dr. Strange has the ability to teleport so quickly to another location, that Thor is completely stunned by it.

Has Access to cosmic beings blessings and can invoke the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak, fast enough and strong enough to really bother and upset someone wearing the Infinity Gauntlet.

Can send energy and lightning into another dimension and then route it back to the enemy

Can Nullify Infinity Gauntlet reality warping

Shields are so powerful, that not even an extra-dimensional being can toss physical objects hard enough to break.

Can tank a front kick from the power stone inside the Infinity Gauntlet

Can generate multiple versions of himself to fend off Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

I won't be arguing actual battle tactics in this intro. This was just a basic run down of some interesting feats and facts about the character. In my opinion, Dr. Strange has already demonstrated abilities far in advance of anything Thor is capable of handling. Even with Stormbreaker, it is my belief that Thor will not succeed in a death battle against a bloodlusted Dr. Strange, who does not care about anyone or anything around him. He is free to use the most powerful magic possible and has no regard for Thor's life or the surrounding dimension, or planet. In the first battle post that comes after my opponent posts his Intro, I will be detailing why I believe this to be true.

A few things to note here:

• Thor was weakened at the time due to Dark magic
• Thor did this effortlessly
• These gauntlets are made of a gold titanium alloy which is four times harder than steel

The take away from this:

I think we can all agree Thor is most definitely stronger than DS, but if my opponent challenges this I am more than happy to come back to it

Attack Speed:

Combat Speed:

Reaction Speed:

Blunt Durability:

Energy Durability:

This is DS's main attack style, but unfortunately this is where Thor's durability shines

The take away from this:

DS has no way to put Thor down here. Thor has tanked far worse and walked it off

The take away from this:

Thor is more than capable of one shotting Stephen

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My opponent stated: "Here you can see that Thor can call lightning down instantly on DS, and DS has never reacted to anything as fast as lighting"

In my intro, I showed that Thanos tossing lightning through the Infinity Gauntlet still was slow enough for Strange to form a defense for and toss it right back. Clearly, anything from the Infinity Gauntlet is going to be more powerful, faster and better in every way than even Infinity War Thor's Lightning.

Again, here Strange no selling Infinity Gauntlet Lightning blasts. Thor's lightning won't be effective at all.

Not only that, but in his astral form (refer to the Astral Projection Offense section below) lightning moves at a snail pace to Strange. Nothing Thor has in the way of energy/lightning projection power will matter to Dr. Strange when he can no sell the Infinity Gauntlet version of lightning.

• That is more than enough proof that Thor's lightning is not a problem to the Master of the Mystic Arts. Thor's lightning is nowhere near the level of the Infinity Gauntlet, which Strange handled without any problem and was more than fast enough to react to. Thor's Lightning is a non-factor in this fight.

My opponent said: "Here Thor can completely statue both Captain America and Iron-Man, so it is more than likely he can completely statue DS, who like a normal human should be slower than Stark's flying speed and Captain America's Speed"

• Everyone was a statue to Quick Silver. Thor was moving at the same speed as Iron Man, who was capable of dodging all of Thor's attacks. I am not sure what your argument is here in that gif feat. Thor was moving super slow and so was iron man.
• To sum this up. Thor fights Iron Man and gets battered around by Energy Blasts, he is too slow to dodge. He Fights Kurse and can't dodge a boulder coming at him. He also is too slow to dodge a fish net sprung on him.

Here is Thor unable to dodge a fish net fired by an alien gun by some dudes in a trash pile

My opponent said: "This is Thor breaking the Sound Barrier."

No, it really isn't, I'm afraid. That is Malekith using energy to blow off debris from himself.

Here, Thor can't handle Iron Man's front Kick or his energy blasts and is sent flying backward. Whereas Dr. Strange tanks Thanos' front kick while using the Power Stone Gem. There is really no debate there, I'm afraid. Dr. Strange no sells the Power Stone front kick and Thor can't handle Iron Man's front kick.

Here, Thor can't handle a punch from Ultron.

Here, Strange again handles a front kick from the physically strongest being in the entire universe, who makes Ultron and Iron Man pale in comparison by massive quantities and factor.

Here, Strange's shields stop a massive craft from impacting the ground at high speeds. This feat has a massive impact force variable that far exceeds Ultron punches, Iron Man Kicks and also Kurse tossing a boulder at Thor and rendering him almost unconscious.

Here is that scene of a boulder totally wrecking Thor upon impact. This impact level isn't even close to the level of Impact that Strange's shields were impacted with upon crashing.

• So here, I've proven that Thor has no feats that are remotely close to Thanos' physicality level. Thor's physical striking doesn't matter if Strange can actually block physical strikes from the Infinity Gauntlet and not instantly explode on contact. Some rocks were enough to almost take Thor out and Strange proves that he can handle impact forces that are far, far in excess of anything Thor has even demonstrated.
• xZone used feats of Hulk beating up Thor as Justification for better durability. But both Thor and Hulk were brutally mauled by Thanos. Those punches and strikes took Hulk out in just a few shots at the beginning of Infinity War. Dr. Strange No Sold Infinity Gauntlet level strength and kicks that ended Hulk and Thor instantly. Nothing in the way of physical strength will harm Dr. Strange. Thor and Hulk were devastated by Thanos. And Thanos was not physically strong enough to even break Dr. Strange's shields.

In terms of Feats of power in a physical sense, Dr. Strange has vastly superior magical strength that is powerful enough to handle the Infinity Gauntlet. He contested the physically strongest being in the entire universe. Thor is not the physically strongest.

My opponent said: "DS has no way to put Thor down here. Thor has tanked far worse and walked it off"

• Untrue. Thor was brutally assaulted and nearly killed by Thanos punching and kicking him. Hulk was dismantled completely by a few strikes that looked effortless. Dr. Strange tanked Thanos' physical strikes and didn't have much trouble doing it at all.
• The advanced Iron Man armor that is leagues stronger than the one that survived the Sokovia blast was sent flying backward, along with the Iron Spider Armor. And Dr. Strange had no barrier or magic up, was hurled backward and stood up and brushed off a bomb that sent advanced Stark tech armor rag dolling away. He is actually more than capable of handling the Sokovia blast based on this.

Here, we have proven that xZones comments on the durability, speed and defensive powers of Strange are not in favor of Thor. Strange actually has superior feats in nearly every avenue of the debate.

Remember, this battle is to the death, with no regard for anything, anyone around them. Strange is Bloodlusted.

Dr. Strange doesn't even need to be anywhere near you to teleport you anywhere he wishes. He already did it to Loki.

He teleported both Loki and Thor away with a mere gesture.

I'm sorry, I do not agree that Thor's reaction speed is enough. He has actually been dumbfounded by Strange's teleportation speed. While Thor is confused about what just happened, in that instant of teleportation, take a look at what Strange is doing. He is actually mid mixing a potion in a cup using Thors hair.

Here, he plucks hair off thor without him even being aware he was behind him, then immediately teleports him again and Thor Falls over in confusion <-- This one is vital to the debate. Because Thor was still talking to another projection of Strange when the teleported version of Strange appeared behind thor without him knowing. Strange can teleport and move faster than Thor can even see and understand Strange isnt there anymore.

In that scene, Strange already studied Asgardians and wanted to double check the spells needed to teleport Thor to Odin. Which means that Strange can teleport you anywhere he wants.

He plucked Thor's hair right off his head. So, really...as silly as the debate is, pulling out Thor's hair is actually a viable option for the battle. It would hurt a lot, probably render him unconscious with pain when Dr. Strange teleports all the hair and rips them out of his skull. Why not? He can do it with his bare hands, imagine what his magic would do.

Dr. Strange went up against the Infinity Gauntlet and not only tanked a lot from Thanos, but inflicted some harm too, which forced Thanos into some struggle. The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak made Thanos grit his teeth and struggle to be free of them.

Not only that, Thor is nowhere near the level of Dormammu. Not even close. The Simple Fact that Strange can even put up a defense against a cosmic entity on that level for seconds at a time is an absurd telling of how powerful Strange's shields and reactionary abilities really are.

The shield and magical defenses of Strange not only held up for a time, but the movie writer and director confirm that during his thousands of deaths, he practiced and got a lot more powerful over that period.

Beyond that level of absurd defensive capabilities. Dr. Strange has the ability to copy himself many times and mess with Thor, while one version teleports away to a safe location and teleports everyone into the Mirror Dimension, or the Dark Dimension.

Thor has no feats of stopping a teleportation used on him. The scenes in Ragnarok proved that Thor is helpless to being teleported away and cannot even fly without Mjolnir. So the battle strategy is for one copy of Strange's self to teleport to a safe place away from Thor while a multitude of Stranges invoking the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak (powerful enough to restrain Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet) drive Thor insane.

Strange demonstrates he can teleport Thor and Loki on a whim from vast distances away in Ragnarok. There is no reason he can't do this again and that would be first on his agenda. Strange already did it. He knows Thor is weak to that. And so Thor gets trapped in the Mirror Dimension forever, Inside the Dark Dimension where Dormammu just blasts him to death immediately, or any number of horrific places.

He wasn't able to do this to Thanos because Thanos could teleport right back and that would be useless. But, Thor is susceptible to that. And again, Strange already did it...to two Asgardians at the same time.

Dr. Strange starts out by copying himself many, many times over. Retraining Thor with the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak and also doing two things. One of his copies can teleport Thor to a dangerous deadly place and win the fight immediately. The other can Astral project and since they are so fast in that form that even lightning looks slow, there are a number of terrifying things Strange can do to Thor while he remains a statue restrained by a bunch of copies of Strange using the Crimson Bands.

In the New York Battle, Wong chops off Cull Obsidans arm with a portal closing. There is no reason someone much more powerful in Dr. Strange cannot do the same while Thor is restrained by the Crimson Bands. Beyond that, potentially push thors soul right out of his body.

https://youtu.be/KwfmqAFBZR4?t=114

Thor is nowhere near strong enough to even phase Dr. Strange's magical defenses. Dormammu...Infinity Gauntlet? Yep. Stranges feats trump Thor's 1000:1 on that front. Nothing Thor can do physically will harm Strange. He isn't even remotely powerful enough. Thanos crushed Thor in his bare hands at the beginning of IW and also dismantled the Hulk in hand to hand. Strange then goes up against Thanos with even more gems and does very well. Right there, Strange trumps Thor in combat feats.

Thor's lightning is a non-factor. Strange tanked and redirected lightning from the Infinity Gauntlet. Thor's lightning is no where near that level.

Thor is over confident and Dr. Strange is calculating and already read up on Asgardians. He knows their own magic spells and a lot of them. He has books on them. He knows all their weaknesses.

Thor's speed factor is also a non-issue if he can't handle Ultron or Iron Man in a 1v1. Strange 1v1ed Thanos wearing the Infinity Gauntlet and got some shots in.

The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak will restrain and crush Thor to death and can be used in multiple copies of Dr. Strange at the same time.

Thor is outclassed in speed, defense, energy projection, mystical powers, and has no defense against teleportation. They call him Sourceror Supreme for a reason.

Thanks for reading! <3

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