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Yeah, there are a lot of these..
Both teams here have advantages, but Thor's are the most daunting
Thor's Normal attack strategy is to blast his enemies with lightning immediately, generally an AOE attack for multiple enemies, like this:
As soon as the initial blast is done both Nam-ek and Faora will essentially be one shot, unless you can show me energy durability feats on par with Thor's lightning of course. Once they are out of the way Thor can quite easily deal with Zod with Superior strength, durability, and speed to react
Let's Start off with the most important factor here: All three kryptonians lack energy durability feats capable of tanking even casual lightning blasts from Thor, or even his lightning cloak, and I'll prove that here
Faora, Nam-ek, and Zod have no real energy durability feats, but anything they do have can't come close to topping the power output of Thor's cloak as seen here:
One of the benefits of Thor's Cloak is the HF it provides. Thor was stabbed many, many times by Hela, but we was able to get back up. This can't be fully attributed only to damage soak because Thor down from these same stabs pre-cloak, so we know he was healing
Any low end energy attacks should be able to put Faora & Nam-ek down, but Thor's potent Cloak and AOE attacks are far above any average energy attacks, and they can easily put these Kryptonians to bed
Thor is more than capable of One-Shotting any of the Kryptonians here
We can all agree that the greatest attacking force my opponents have is blunt durability punches, unfortunately for them, Thor excels in this area
The Kryptonians Simply do not have the striking feats to put Thor down, or at minimum not before Thor brings a lightning bolt down on their heads like this:
This will probably be one of the most discussed part of this debate, even though the lightning Is indeed more important, but Thor's no slow poke, he can compete here with ease
Thor can easily react to, track, block, and dodge mach speed projectiles and persons, and this includes the Kryptonians
Thor can at least compete with the Kryptonians in a small way
As you look through my and my Opponent's arguments, I ask that you remember the facts here
With all that said, here are the counters:
She has a sword made from kryptonian metal, strong enough to survive re-entry. Even if its sharpness is average, any sharp/durable weapon will be deadly if swung at hypersonic speed. Especially considering kryptonian armors are durable enough to take hit from Superman.
We don't know the metal is the same metal that survived re-entry. That's the same as saying because a rocket made from metal on earth can survive re-entry, your every day military knife is gonna be made of the same stuff. Simply untrue. Now, if you have some kind of proof for that being the exact same metal, I'd love to see it
Survived the impact and explosion of a huge war jet crashing to his way.
This is no where near the energy durability feat required to survive Thor's casual lightning strikes, let alone his serious ones
Prove it was only due to the radiation? He also wasn't just "harmed" he was nearly dead
Superman never really showed anything near that level in MOS, and he had a hard time stopping much less (this oil rig), so to act like these feats apply for scaling is off. I don't say this to lowball Clark, because besides being one of my favorite superheroes he is also far more powerful than this scene gives him credit for. However, if we are scaling to Superman for Zod, Faora, and Nam, I think we should be fair about it
Did you actually just bring the tectonic plate feat in to a CAV? I'll explain why this isn't valid, but I shouldn't have to. We never saw this feat on screen, It is a massive outlier if it's true, and if it is true we have no idea at all how it was accomplished. This feat has less standing than Thor taking the full force of a star for crying out loud
Actually, Flash was reacting to Superman. Superman was the one attacking the flash, not the other way around. Flash was clearly far, far faster than Clark, AND this was in JL where the feats are far different. Superman never did anything near this level in MOS, but now we want to scale old villains to this? I don't think that's fair especially when most believe the mother box amped Clark immensely. Also, this scaling is getting a little dumb. So Clark can react to flash, and Zod can react/punch superman, and flash can run as fast as superman can fly, hence Zod is how fast exactly? Flawed all around here
IIRC, those were special effects meant to show them fighting at mach speeds, not every hit was creating a shockwave due to their strength
My team has immense speed and number advantage. At the beginning of the fight, since they're bloodlusted, they would start blitzing Thor before he could react and continuously ragdoll him with punches until he got killed eventually. My team members evidently could knock out Superman who's as durable than Thor or probably more. Even Superman got overwhelmed by their speed in 2 vs 1 match, not only Thor is way slower than any of these people, he'll be facing 3 of them at once.
Unfortunately for your team, Superman didn't have a few things that make beating this team far easier:
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It's up kiddos
Great opener and counter, there were a lot of flaws that could easily be countered in Lan's first post and I see Xzone spotted and has done so. Good job. Both two solid openers, this CAV is already very enjoyable.
Happy you are enjoying the CaV, but please keep your opinions to yourself until voting, thanks
@xzone: Lol, nope. I'm just confused as to where to start. I'm talking about the formatting and orders.
Lol I’m just messing, im pretty happy to be having this matchup mainly because your saying Zod>Thor has always annoyed me, and I wanted to change your mind haha. Im very, very interested as to see how you counter my energy durability arguments, so gl man
I didn't give my opinion on the battle itself thank you. Nor have i commented on any arguments made.
As you see i'm perfectly aware of the CAV rules.
And you're welcome. I can't wait to see how this pans out
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