CaV: MCU Punisher (Amendment50) vs. MCU Peggy Carter (ANTHP2000) - CLOSED

@amendment50: Vote goes to ANTHP because Amendment threw shade at me.

JK

@the_magister: Lmao almost forgot about that

@amendment50: For this offense and for unrestrained Frank wank, I will have to report you to the mods.

BTW I legit think Frank's alleyway feat is impressive, in that post that was quoted I was just comparing it to what I think is a better showing in Agents of SHIELD. On its own, the feat is great - the context was that I was comparing it to what I consider a superior feat. I definitely think Frank outclasses Peggy here, hence why I won't vote because this is a match-up I am too biased in.

Great work though, a good read for sure. You did a good job repping Frank.

Oh yeah and good job to this dude @anthp2000 too, despite his feminism wank. Did a good job repping Peggy.

Didn't Frank almost defeated Clifford? I don't see how this is fair.

Man, Peggy just seems so boringly unimpressive, an interesting matchup on paper though. I vote for Amendment.

I vote for amendment because he used a male.

Such bait so far.

I vote for Amendment so ANTHP will stop lowballing Alpha Males

ANYWAY.

bump

Piggy Carter sucks. Giving my vote to Amendment because Frank stomps of better formatting and stuff, but it was really hard to decide and good job to both!!!

okey doke now who wants to actually read the debate

Is Anthp baiting with his opener, or is he serious?

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Bump

ANTHP did good and I love when someone is bold enough to represent a underutilized character for a CAV but I think Amend defended his positions and rebuked ANTHP’s more. Things that stood out were ANTHP’s point about how Frank’s sponge fighting style would bite him in the ass against Peggy’s knife and Amend’s point with why Anvil operators should be superior to old school SHIELD.

Gonna go with Amend, narrowly tho. Good job to both of you.

@keenko: Thanks for taking the time to read through and voting!

@ashrym:

Thanks for the words, and for reading through and voting!

Both sides did really good. Both had good formatting (as much as I could tell on mobile)n both brought up good points and defended their respective sides well, and I felt that both did a decent job with their counters.

That being said I'm voting for @amendment50: as I thought that he did slightly better in each facet. As much as accuracy matters in a gunfight, AD50 brought up being quicker on the draw matters more especially when both opponents have high tier accuracy (after a certain point it doesn't matter anymore as you'd hit your target.

I also wasn't convinced that Peggy's opponents were much more skilled than Franks either.

I'm convinced that Frank is quicker on the draw and will be the first to get rounds off. Accuracy matters, for sure, but only to the extent that you need to hit your target. Center-mass and head-shots are the most reliable targets anyways. Also Frank can whip out fully automatic rifles like they're pistols with zero recoil, so Anthp had to convince me that Peggy was some Avenger's level shield agent to top that. That didn't happen, so....

Ammendment50 gets my vote.

@alavanka: @dstreet45: Thank you for reading through and voting!

@amendment50 said:

Great job from both sides!

I vote amendment 50. Both brought up relavent points and amendment 50 and anthp replied effectively.

@amendment50: Feel free to close this anytime you want. Kinda sad more people don't seem as interested anymore lol. I had a lot of fun with this, and like I said in PM, I was playing Devil's Advocate on the gunfight after the second wave of posts; you brought up a very good point regarding draw speed vs accuracy. Anyway, we can wait for more feedback too.

Very fun debate all in all, we should do it again someday!

@anthp2000: This was very fun. I'll at least wait for one or two more votes before closing though. I've had CaVs turn around in votes at this point before.

Regardless, I'd definitely be down to do another debate in the future. GG!