CaV MCU Captain America vs MCU Black Panther

Captain America (mexcomics2078)

Black Panther (LarcadeDragneel)

Conditions

• Random Encounter
• Blood lusted
• Civil War Gear
• Win By KO or Incapacitation

Battlefield

Starting Distance is where they are located on the Battlefield.

@mexcomics2078 The thread is up. I can have a post up within the next few hours.

@larcadedragneel: thanks. I will post up in some hours too . It’s currently i 2 am on My country so as of now I’m very tired :p . See you tomorrow

Awesome! T4V please! And best of luck to the both of you.

Black Panther (Opener)

Not much to be said about his backstory. He was the prince of Wakanda and is now the king. He ate the heart-shaped herb that granted him enhanced human abilities putting him on par with super-soldiers. He is highly trained and a threat that should not be underestimated.

Powers/Gear

Strength

Black Panther is no lightweight when it comes to strength alone. Although he has been in the MCU shorter than Cap he has a some feats that put him on par and should show that he can contend. Here he is able to overpower Bucky's arm.

He was also able to break a door of a car and throw it with enough force to send his opponent flying.

Finally, he was able to kick Bucky back a few feet after overpowering him.

This is going to be all for this sections since I don't want a very long opener. These were just to show he would be able to contend with Cap strength-wise for the most part.

Speed (Reaction)

Here he is able to dodge Hawkeye's arrows and even catch two of them. This could also be a durability feat considering he was unfazed by their detonation.

Finally, this is a feat I just recently discovered. Here Black Panther was able to cut a bullet in the air after it had been fired. This is a very impressive feat that goes to show just how fast his reaction speeds are.

Durability

This is going to be the most decisive part of the battle. T'challa is a tank even in the Civil War suit and has withstood quite a number of things. The first of course being hit point blank by a grenade.

Here he is able to take gunfire to the face and this is one of many feats where he was been shot.

Finally, even without the suit he was able to take a punch from Bucky's arm and barely fazed.

Fighting Skill

This is the area where this fight could go either way. However, I am leaning towards Black Panther more. Here he was able to easily, overpower Bucky and land multiple hits.

Furthermore, he has already fought Cap and had the upper hand for the majority of the fight pushing Steve back. This shows how good a fighter Black Panther really is considering had they not been interrupted T'challa would have the upper hand.

Initial Considerations

Our characters are basically equal in every aspect they just have different gear. Although, I did not cover most of my gear in this post, my next post will explain how much of an advantage I get, mainly in the durability area. Black Panther can definitely hurt Steve by using his claws, but I don't see how Cap could do the same.

@mexcomics2078: My first is up. Good Luck!

T4V please.

@larcadedragneel: Uh? Lol T4V

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Um... Tag I guess

Guys. I’m going to post on the next hours please be patient I’m going to be very busy on the next hours

Didn't want to create an entirely new thread, lol.

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MCU CAPTAIN AMERICA (OPENER)

Steve rogers was a small and weak guy during wwII era. he was elected by the Dr Erskine itself to be the injected with the Super soldier serum. this serum increases all physical human capabilities to low superhuman level. after spending almost 70 years frozen Captain america has become on of the Earth Mightiest Heroes : The Avengers

Powers

Enhanced strength

Enhanced durability

Enhanced speed

Enhanced stamina

Enhanced Reflexes

Enhanced agility

Gear

Vibranium Circular shield

Strength/Striking

Captain america has been able to accomplish a great amount of strength/striking feats during his appearances on the MCU, some of these feats are :

being capable of one shooting Chitauris ( these aliens were no- selling high falls during new york battle)

he is able to throw away a full grown man in a range of 6-8 feet with little to no effort

as seen in 0:58 cap was able to dent the metal supporte with a kick to spiderman.after that he makes the support fall with a good shield throw

and to ending well this section we have a great feat of captain america strength. he stopped an helicopter with an average weight of 3000 lbs. thats a great feat for cap

Durability

as we can see Cap survive and remain conscious after receiving multiple bloodlusted Winter soldier metal arm punches . one single of these punches was capable of making a crack on the floor

as you can see during 3:35- 3:45 cap survive with almost no damage a fall and an explosion able to get past the wall and generates room size explosions.

Speed

there is no much to say here. im tempted to say that BP and Cap are equal in running speed

FIGHTING SKILL

Cap was able to defeat multiple agents in an elevator by using pure skill and physichals

here we can see that a serious but morals on cap was able to subdue and win against a hydra mode bucky via skill . while a bloodlusted Black panther had the upper hand against Bucky with trouble. so imagine what a Bloodlusted cap could do agains BP

CONSIDERATIONS

like my Cav partner this is just my opener and soon i will give arguments about how cap would beat panther using his powers and abilities

@larcadedragneel

@mexcomics2078: Awesome, I am going to read through this and have my counters up in 1-3 days.

this isnt gonna end well..

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Great openers, both of you!

@huthimamwa: thanks man

@larcadedragneel: sure. Take your time

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The Soldier vs The King (Round 1)

Counters:

here we can see that a serious but morals on cap was able to subdue and win against a hydra mode bucky via skill . while a bloodlusted Black panther had the upper hand against Bucky with trouble. so imagine what a Bloodlusted cap could do agains BP

Black Panther had the upper-hand against Bucky in all fights with his suit. As a matter of fact the only time he was hurt by Bucky was when he wasn't wearing a suit and even than he was barely fazed. That is all I have for counters because there isn't a lot to counter.

The Strategy/Battle:

This is going to be very straight forward and quick to the point. Cap and Black Panther are basically equals in skill and stats. However, Black Panther has a much higher durability that I don't see Cap getting through. I have already shown Black Panther to take explosions and remain unfazed. Here he was able to take a punch straight to the face and continue fighting. This was a punch from Bucky's cybernetic arm which is arguably stronger than Steve's punches.

For other durability feats, I have already shown he can take gunshots and small explosions. As for the skill department they have both been able to fight Winter Soldier and beat him. Both are highly trained and deadly but Black Panther's agility is going to help give him the upper hand. He will be able to avoid most of his attacks while not worrying he will be attacked. Not to mention since they are blood lusted, Black Panther will have no problem using his claws which easily cut through cap. Below he showed how agile he was when he fought cap and also the damage his claws can do.

Conclusion:

Black Panther has the edge in damage output, and durability. Although they are both highly trained Steve doesn't use agility as much as Black Panther and as such Black Panther can get more openings using his unorthodox fighting style. Black Panther has tanked explosions and gunshots showing there is no way Cap can hurt him. Furthermore, Black Panther with the use of his claws will be able to easily carve up Cap as shown when he cut through metal easily.

@mexcomics2078: My post is up, I tried to keep it short and to the point. Good Luck.

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@larcadedragneel: im sorry for not replying the thread but I’ve been busy these days. But tomorrow I will post my answer. I apologize for make you wait

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Counters

the only counters i found about captain america is that he doesn't have a full body protection like Black Panther and that makes captain america more vulnerable to Panther attacks, relying only in his super soldier stats. which is very close to BP Durability

The Battle

just like my Cav partner said Cap and Bp are equals in stats and skill except by durability which is not to much for an issue for cap. from my point on view the fight would go on just like in CW with the exception that cap is bloodlust and going for the kill. maybe cap punches are not hard as metal bucky arm ones but he is an smart fighter ( he toyed and outsmarted spiderman who is has better stats than cap) and he can find out that he need to keep the distance and fight BP Via shield throws and Kicks ( which are very powerful)

as we can see Black Panther can be hurt via shield throws

Conclussion

as you can see Black Panther is not invencible and he is vulnerable to blunt force attacks. from my point of view Captain America would win this fight due to his experience with more powerful enemies than him and his tactical mind.

@larcadedragneel i finished my post

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@mexcomics2078: My post will be up tomorrow or in a few days.

Round 2

Counters:

the only counters i found about captain america is that he doesn't have a full body protection like Black Panther and that makes captain america more vulnerable to Panther attacks, relying only in his super soldier stats. which is very close to BP Durability

The durability between Black Panther and Cap are almost completely different. It can be argued that Cap has around the same blunt force durability as Black Panther's suit but that is just blunt force and a large stretch. Cap has no outstanding feats of piercing durability and I do not see how his skin is tougher than Panther's claws. We have even seen Cap hurt by gun wounds solidifying he has no defense against Panther's claws other than his shield.

from my point on view the fight would go on just like in CW with the exception that cap is bloodlust and going for the kill.

The fight in Civil War was interrupted and Black Panther had the upper hand for most of the fight.

maybe cap punches are not hard as metal bucky arm ones but he is an smart fighter ( he toyed and outsmarted spiderman who is has better stats than cap) and he can find out that he need to keep the distance and fight BP Via shield throws and Kicks ( which are very powerful)

Black Panther is a much better fighter than Spider-man and Spider-man is still a kid. Also can you elaborate on how Steve's attacks are going to hurt Black Panther. I have already shown he took a grenade point-blank.

as we can see Black Panther can be hurt via shield throws

If anything Black Panther was annoyed by that throw but not hurt. He continued to chase after Bucky a few seconds later and was only hindered by Black Widow's taser.

as you can see Black Panther is not invencible and he is vulnerable to blunt force attacks. from my point of view Captain America would win this fight due to his experience with more powerful enemies than him and his tactical mind.

How is he vulnerable to blunt force attacks if I have already shown him to take the full force of Bucky's arm with and without his suit. As for Cap's experience, Panther only needs to land one hit to hurt Steve greatly and bring down his speed allowing more attacks. We have already seen Steve can't take bullets or knife attacks.

Conclusion

• Black Panther is going to be able to hurt Cap.
• Cap won't be able to hurt Black Panther.
• Black Panther only needs to a land a few hits.
• The strategy remains the same.

@mexcomics2078: Second post is up.

Counters

Cap has no outstanding feats of piercing durability and I do not see how his skin is tougher than Panther's claws. We have even seen Cap hurt by gun wounds solidifying he has no defense against Panther's claws other than his shield.

Sure cap doesnt have any piercing durability but he is fast enough to avoid BP Claws and he tank some hits from them. just like the following gif

Also can you elaborate on how Steve's attacks are going to hurt Black Panther

i made my argument about that on my last post. Cap can hurt BP using kicks and shield throws. but lets assume that cap cant hurt him that way.

Cap can make this move to BP and hurt his arm just like he did to WS

or he can incapacitate him just like he did to winter soldier between 1:57-2:06

Conclussion

Cap is an smarter fighter than BP

the disadvantages that cap has against BP are minimal ( blunt force durability) or they are not to much of a factor ( Piercing durability)

Cap can use his martial art skills to defeat BP on case if the Shield throws and Blunt force attacks don't work

@larcadedragneel here is my new post. sorry for my late response

@mexcomics2078: I will have a response up in a few days.

@larcadedragneel: Is it a few days yet?