CaV: (Major_Hellstorm) Midnighter VS. Gamora (Jloneblackheart) Open For Votes

@major_hellstrom: @majinblackheart: Excellent CaV. Both of you demonstrated that you knew your characters like the back of your hand, and demonstrated impressive debating ability whilst making arguments for them. Though overall I have to give my vote to @major_hellstrom. Overall I just feel that major edged Majin out a little bit, he demonstrated that Midnighter could hurt beings well above Gamora with ridiculous consistency (like seriously how on earth is Midnighter considered street level?) and he also proved that Midnighter was her match in both speed and durability, and could take an easy edge over her by using his speed burst. He also displayed how it is very consistent for Midnighter to use his lifting strength in combat. And while I wasn't convinced that Midnighter was more skilled than Gamora I think Major definitely showed that Middy was solidly comparable, and could probably outmaneuver her using his door and battle computer.

Majin also did a great job, displaying Gamora's impressive speed and insane durability, as well as showing that she has fantastic and skill. Though I do feel that he lowballed Midnighters strength a little bit, overall I definitely got the impression that it was more consistent for Midnighter to damage high-tiers with his blows than it is for Gamora, yet Majin insisted that Gamora was far more consistent and that Midnighter's showings were high ends, then trying to low-ball Middy with showings against Grayson and Multiplex that Major solidly proved were inconsistent. I also just really felt that Gamora drawing blood from Thanos was an outliner and that, based on this CaV, she didn't have the feats to suggest that that was consistent.

Fantastic read, great debate both of you, but ultimately my vote goes to Midnighter rapped by @major_hellstrom

@majinblackheart@major_hellstrom

This was a really close, nice CaV. Kind of as a warning before hand, I disagree with some of Majin's assessments of Gamora, but I'm putting that aside because MH never made any point to refute his assessment of Gamora. Overall, I think Majin did the superior job showing his characters physicality and how specifically they would win(the slow down with a slash leading to a kill was a good strat imo). However, I do think he went a bit far on the battle computer, I had him when he said it was fallible, but to say that it was just plot and therefore kinda useless seemed like a bit of a stretch and to a degree, lowballing. Hellstorm I think should've pushed the burst speed more, as that was a huge advantage that could've been brought up more/defended better imo. Overall I'm giving my vote to @majinblackheart he convinced me that all Gamora really needed to do was tag Midnighter once and that she was capable of doing so.

@majinblackheart@major_hellstrom

This was a really close, nice CaV. Kind of as a warning before hand, I disagree with some of Majin's assessments of Gamora, but I'm putting that aside because MH never made any point to refute his assessment of Gamora. Overall, I think Majin did the superior job showing his characters physicality and how specifically they would win(the slow down with a slash leading to a kill was a good strat imo). However, I do think he went a bit far on the battle computer, I had him when he said it was fallible, but to say that it was just plot and therefore kinda useless seemed like a bit of a stretch and to a degree, lowballing. Hellstorm I think should've pushed the burst speed more, as that was a huge advantage that could've been brought up more/defended better imo. Overall I'm giving my vote to @majinblackheart he convinced me that all Gamora really needed to do was tag Midnighter once and that she was capable of doing so.

So I finally got round to reading this CAV, and I have to say it was pretty close but I'm giving it to @majinblackheart. Both sides had their fair share of both low/highballing as well as great arguments, but I was especially impressed with jlone's partial debunks of Midnighter's Battle Computer, which I thought was his greatest advantage over Gamora as shown in @major_hellstrom's posts. Beyond that, I was convinced that both had comparable speed with a possible slight edge to Midnighter with the burst speed, although jlone did well in introducing doubt into that argument. In the end, Gamora only needed one good hit to take the win, and I was convinced she could get it before Midnighter would do the same.