King Bradley is composite from Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood + manga.
Bradley has his 5 swords and Bryan Fury has standard gear.
Both start 20 ft away.
Win by KO or Death.
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Just so you're aware; my intros usually consists of revealing most of what my guy/girl can do while following up with initial thoughts. So the rest of the debate can be just that. A debate with words and explanations. So with that said:
Fury used to be an officer in the International Police Organization. He was killed in a shoot-out in Hong Kong. Bryan's corpse was transported to the laboratory of a man named Doctor Abel. This 88-year-old scientist was fairly famous in the underground society, but his findings were often preceded by Dr. Boskonovitch's. However, at last, he came to the last step of completing his master project... the Cyborg Army. Dr Abel thought that a perfect cyborg must have the mechanics built by his rival, Dr. Boskonovitch, so he reanimated Fury's body and sent him off to collect this data. In his former life, Bryan was known as a skillful detective, but on the other side, he was always followed by dark rumors. Investigating the Hong Kong drug trade, Lei Wulong discovered that Fury had connections with drug dealers.
Before The King of Iron Fist Tournament 4, Bryan came to the realization that his life was quickly coming to an end. Two years ago, the Mishima Zaibatsu recruited Doctor Abel as its top scientific advisor. When this happened, Abel abandoned Bryan without giving a second thought to the now-obsolete cyborg's well being. Bryan knew that the only person capable of extending his life was Abel, his creator. Bryan despised both Heihachi Mishima, the man who took Abel away from him, and Abel himself for abandoning him. One day, Bryan heard news of The King of Iron Fist Tournament 4, and chose to enter the Tournament. He entered knowing that it would probably be his final fight.
As he trained, Bryan sensed that his death was quietly approaching. Despite his impending death, Bryan's physical strength did not diminish. On the contrary, Bryan's muscles flowed with energy that made him more powerful than before. Along with this new strength, Bryan developed an almost uncontrollable rage that also manifested itself in his outward physical appearance. Bryan staked everything on this one hope - if he won the Tournament, he would become the head of the Mishima Zaibatsu. More importantly, if Bryan defeated Heihachi Mishima in the tournament, he could easily take total control over the Mishima Zaibatsu to do his bidding. If all went as planned, Bryan would command Abel to modify his body to prolong his life. This would also be an opportunity for him to upgrade his body. It would be his opportunity to upgrade himself to the most powerful being in existence.
Brutal. Rutheless. Unforgiving. Motivated. These are the best words to aptly describe Bryan Fury
We see colliding fists between Fury and Paul Phoenix that causes shockwaves to the surrounding environment. Also take note that Bryan quickly recovered from a combination of strikes given by Paul.
In this video, he masterfully and easily wields a gatling gun while Yoshimitsu out speeds it and straight out dodges its line of fire in order to evade into the air and attack Fury while invisible.
Bradley can evade and his Ultimate Eye may give him the edge in keeping away for a bit but the minute he gets in close -- which he'll have to to have a chance at winning. He'll be in for a beating with Bryan's superior strength, durability and reaction. He is also vastly more skilled in CQC and I do not believe Bradley can even hurt him to a dangerous degree with his melee offense. It would take a long while, and alot of hope, at the least.
Cutting through a tank and slicing through unsuspecting guards in a blitz is not good enough. He is also not too fast to track down and/or shot at based on the advanced weapons Bryan is using here. Who can also wield these guns like they are toys. Its just not what Bradley is used to or has faced before.
I just don't see a clear way for Bradley to win here. Maybe you can bring up something I am not aware of but at the moment, I feel confident in Fury's victory.
King Bradley aka Wrath the Furious was the Führer of Amestris born about 60 years before the events of Fullmetal Alchemist and the last homunculus created by Father.
Bradley was the result of an experiment to make a human-based homunculus capable of aging. A Philosopher's Stone embodying Father's wrath was injected into select human test subjects, though the last 11 candidates were unable to handle the strain and succumbed to the stone. Bradley was the 12th candidate injected with the stone, but managed to endure the strain and survive while gaining a superior body as well as the Ultimate Eye.
Afterwards, Wrath eventually become appointed as the Führer of Amestris, and manipulated the country's military towards Father's goal of becoming the ultimate being.
Strength:
Despite not having an abundance of lifting feats himself, Wrath is still solidly superhuman in striking strength and will be capable of harming Bryan via his maximizing the attack potency of his average rapiers through his skill.
For starters, Wrath's able to send the original Greed flying back with enough force to form a crater in a brick wall and subsequently break the brick wall through casually kicking Greed.
When ambushed by GreedLing, Wrath was able to fend of Greed's full force strike for an extended period of time.
This also shows skill in Wrath's end since GreedLing with the Ultimate Shield has relatively impressive striking strength and could have snapped Wrath's average steel swords in half far sooner, yet Bradley was able to minimize damage and showcase his strength to resist GreedLing's force.
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Greed's Ultimate Shield striking feats:
Smashing stone with a jab:
Carving through a pipe with a swipe:
Thrusting his hand through a truck while causing the engine to explode:
And thrusting his hand through Bido the Chimera like butter:
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Plus when GreedLing charged towards Wrath at full speed, Bradley was able to push him back several yards away while wielding only a pair of daggers.
When he was attacking GreedLing, Wrath was able to cleave through a concrete wall with his sword.
And a wounded Bradley would even cleave through a brick wall with a broken sword while also smashing a hole in through propelling himself and GreedLing against the wall.
Wrath also showcased the capability to cleave through multiple solid stones in a heavily wounded state.
Next, Wrath was able slice through the steel tracks of an armored tank to disrupt its movements.
When attacked by Captain Buccaneer, Wrath was able to skillfully slice apart his automail.
Notably, according to Buccaneer's automail mechanic: Neil, Buccaneer's advanced "Crocodile" automail is said to be made out of various alloys including carbon steel to compose an above average metal.
Speed:
This is one of Bradley's strongest advantages especially from what I've seen of Bryan so far.
In terms of reactions, Wrath is easily a casual bullet timer.
First off, he was able to nonchalantly weave past the bullets fired from a pistol after they were fired.
As well as nonchalantly weaving past several bullets from rifles (seemingly resembling the Karabiner 98k) after they were fired by multiple soldiers and subsequently blitzing them before they could perceive the counterattack.
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As for combat speed, Bradley can easily blitz or at least dominate bullet timers himself.
To begin with, Bradley was able to cut of a young Edward Elric's spear at the State Alchemist Exam fast enough to the point where Ed and presumably the other soldiers (including Roy Mustang) weren't able to see Wrath's movements.
Now Ed doesn't merely see Bradley as a blur. Ed was literally unable to even perceive when Bradley pulled out his sword and cut the spear while Wrath was right in front of Ed's field of view the entire time.
Admittedly, while this feat chronologically took place before the first chapter/episode, what's significant is that Wrath's capability of blitzing Ed should still be consistent over the entire course of the series.
Plus, Ed is shown to be a bullet timer even in the earliest chapters/episodes and was likely at comparable speed during the exam.
An example being how Ed was able to transmute a shield to block Father Cornello's onslaught of M134 Minigun bullets after they were fired.
Notice that Ed is standing as the Minigun bullets are fired upon him showing that he doesn’t move away and aim dodge before Father Cornello shoots at him.
And we see Ed’s transmuted wall blocked Minigun bullets genuinely headed at him.
Next, Bradley was also able to blitz Alphonse Elric.
Note how Bradley actually goes out of his way to get Alphonse's attention and Alphonse was still unable to react.
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Plus, a relatively older Ed was accompanying Al and appears to be once again perplexed at Bradley's speed.
Now Alphonse is already easily comparable to Ed's speed around the beginning of the series through power scaling since the brothers have sparred with each other multiple times and Al appeared to have the edge in this spar as he blocked, grappled, and countered Ed's strikes.
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And not too long afterwards from the aforementioned spar, Ed admits Alphonse is the superior fighter while Ed's dueling the Slicer Brothers and Alphonse was fighting Barry the Chopper.
Nonetheless, Alphonse also has an instance where he was able to block multiple pistol bullets that were intended to hit May Chang from Father after they were fired.
Admittedly, this was towards the end of the series. but I would like to point out that unlike Ed whose combat speed was originally hindered and later stated + shown to increase after upgrading to lighter Winter automails, Alphonse hasn't been explicitly stated or shown to acquire any stat boosts throughout the story.
This means that even Al at the beginning of the series should overall be a fair bullet timer as well.
Next, Bradley was able to nonchalantly blitz the Freezing Alchemist: Issac McDougal.
Issac was shown skilled and fast enough to contend with both of the Elric Brothers both individually and even together.
For example, Issac was able to dodge a spear thrown by Ed.
And held his own against the two together in cqc as Issac managed to dodge, block, and counter their strikes.
In another encounter shortly afterwards, Issac was able to block some h2h blows from Alphonse before getting knocked back.
Yet Issac was overwhelmed by Wrath's onslaught of slashes while also being unable to perceive them.
In a similar fashion, Bradley blitzed the original Greed with a quickdraw technique.
And overwhelmed him with a merciless sword barrage.
And the original Greed was able to keep up and playfully parry Ed's strikes.
Wrath was also able to mostly blitz Lan Fan from a distance of about 50 ft away while he also propelled himself up a roughly 50 ft tall ladder as he overwhelmed her up close with multiple of his slashes to incapacitate her.
For reference, Lan Fan was shown to have the edge in pure speed and technical fighting skill against Edward Elric.
Another example in their duel was how she was able to agilely evade some staff strikes as she efficiently sliced his staff through her hoodie string and skillfully got a bunch of jabs in while also evading and grappling Ed's physical strike.
Yet her speed and skill was not enough to keep up and fully defend against Bradley.
Getting back to Roy Mustang, in a heavily exerted and severely wounded state without his Ultimate Eye, Bradley was able to dodge one of Roy Mustang's flame alchemy sparks after it was fired, avoid its nearby explosion, and overwhelm the Flame Alchemist up close.
For reference, Roy was shown to mostly hold his own against some Führer Candidates through his speed and fighting skill.
And in terms of combat speed, the Führer Candidates were able to basically blitz Riza before she could use her rifle and prevented Roy from snapping his fingers to use his flame alchemy while giving Scar some trouble.
They were also mostly shown to be skilled bullet timers from Hawkeye's generally accurate shooting.
One of these Führer Candidates even managed to loyally block pistol bullets intended for the Gold Toothed Doctor after the bullets where fired.
Notably, Hawkeye is basically the best marksmen of the FmA verse with a known reputation for never missing her mark during the Ishval Civil War to the point where she was even able to receive the nickname of "Hawk's Eye" from her comrades.
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Riza was even able to precisely shoot the agile human form of Barry the Chopper from a considerable distance with a rifle while Barry was already in motion attempting to attack Jean Havoc.
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And Barry the Chopper’s human form was a capable aim dodger with decent agility as he evaded Havoc's shooting.
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I should also point out that Riza has a fast draw at close range. An example of this is when she fired a precise headshot at Gluttony through a rifle despite him getting the drop on her.
Finally, Wrath in a severely wounded and exerted state, was still able to dominate Scar.
Scar also happens to be a competent bullet timer.
For starters, Scar playfully danced around multiple highly accurate pistol bullets shot from Riza Hawkeye arguably after they were fired. Even if it's skillful aim dodging, it doesn't really take much away from Scar being able to embarrass an established sharpshooter in this instance.
Regardless, Scar was able to even evade her precise bullets from a rifle (which seemingly resembles an Karabiner 98k rifle in the manga and an M14 rifle in the anime) despite just barely noticing her presence after they were fired at least in the anime.
It may initially look like Scar was tagged by one of the bullets, but Riza admits one of her rifle bullets were able to only graze Scar as a result of his speed.
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Scar also evaded multiple artillery cannonballs and their resulting close range explosions from the Iron Blood Alchemist: Basque Grand after the projectiles were fired.
In terms of combat speed, Scar also outmaneuvered the Elric Brothers around the beginning of the series with ease while chastising them for being too slow.
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These feats alone should showcase Wrath's combat speed should not be taken lightly even if a combatant is capable of reacting to bullets.
Ultimate Eye:
Last but not least, Wrath’s left eye with an Ouroboros tattoo normally covered by an eyepatch is also one of his biggest advantages.
The Ultimate Eye allows Bradley to see minute details in his field of vision superior to normal eyesight with applications like combat clairvoyance, photographic deduction, and tactical analysis.
As an example of the Eye’s power, Wrath was able to use the Eye to avoid an explosion and analytically find an efficient path through the chaotic rubble of the damaged train track during an assassination attempt.
Take note of how Bradley was initially sitting down before the bomb was detonated, but stood up and left before the explosion fully formed.
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The Ultimate Eye appears to be a power source which helps both of Bradley’s eyes until it was gouged out by GreedLing.
I say this because in addition to Bradley wearing his eyepatch during the train scene, Bradley only describes his single left tattooed eye as the Ultimate Eye giving him his superhuman visual power twice while describing his backstory to Roy Mustang.
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And Bradley attributes the Ultimate Eye as helping him survive during his participation in military wars to see numerous bullets and shells in multiple angles with utmost perception.
Yet, Bradley basically had to wear his eyepatch for most of his life to keep up with public appearances, and Wrath admits his eyepatch creates a blind spot.
So it’s still impressive for Bradley to be able to adapt his abilities despite having to deal with relatively hindered depth perception and an aging body which Wrath complains “can’t keep up as well” with his Ultimate Eye.
Initial Thoughts:
I agree Bryan has the advantage in durability, lifting strength, and perhaps h2h skill.
However, I'd argue Wrath has a rather solid advantage in overall speed, swordsmanship, and his Ultimate Eye to stay one step ahead of Bryan's tactics in range or cqc. In addition, I'd say Wrath has enough skill/strength to minimize damage to his swords and harm Bryan (considering he can slice through solidly bulletproof tank tracks for example) while eventually wearing him down to at least the point of a KO.
I'm not convinced at Yoshimitsu being faster than Wrath primarily based off just the feats you've posted in your opener. On the other hand, Bradley has the skill to not only outmaneuver Bryan in cqc, but also overwhelm him in spite of any strength differences (like how Wrath dominated GreedLing for example).
Furthermore, Bradley can deal with any of Bryan's ranged weaponry by simply skillful bullet timing + aim dodging.
I'll bring up more feats for Wrath and expand on my initial thoughts during my next posts.
hmm.. not too much to respond to. This will be shorter than I thought, but straight to the point.I will not respond to everything you put up there. It's a very well made and categorized feat compilation. However, the ABC setup and explanations are strong here.
I do not take Bradley's speed and Ultimate Eye lightly. This is a guy who was able to weave through bullets from a short distance away from numerous armed soldiers and slice them before they could react.
Able to break through glass after previous confrontations and run through with bladed weaponry claiming the lives of a group of guards before they can react and before the glass even hits the ground.
Point Is -- Bradley is one of my single favorite characters and I am fully aware of what he brings to this fight. Along with his Swordsmanship and Ultimate Eye. Here, however, he is up a completely different opponent and one that is capable of punching power that will rip sections of his body off if he so chooses.
Opening/Counters 1.. not much
Notice that Ed is standing as the Minigun bullets are fired upon him showing that he doesn’t move away and aim dodge before Father Cornello shoots at him
It seems as though from that gif, the first few shots/bullets he unloaded went straight into the dirt as they made their way to Ed. Leaving a trail of sparks heading toward Ed before he creates the wall. Certainly a flaw in the marksmanship of the shooter. No crazy dodging or deflecting from Ed. I also don't remember the exact context of that scene so maybe the guy was toying with him, but it's very clear that if he had any sort of aim and didn't play it cocky, he most certainly would have filled Ed with bullets.
The Ultimate Eye allows Bradley to see minute details in his field of vision superior to normal eyesight with applications like combat clairvoyance, photographic deduction, and tactical analysis
That will only help him evade. When and if he does attack, his swords will either break off on Fury's body, or he will risk getting up too close. And Bradley gets up close. Alot.
Like, every fight he has been in with someone who presents even a moderate challenge. A prideful warrior Bradley is.
And overwhelmed him with a merciless sword barrage.
Another example of him getting in too close. He does that with Fury and his weapons will break apart or he will get caught by the mad cyborg and forced to eat a bullet.
Current Thoughts
Bradley as both shown in the gifs/scans you shared and in the actual show tends to be unafraid to initiate conflict with those who pose a threat. I mean, why wouldn't he? Very few can match his speed and masterful swordsmanship. It's in character for him to rush in and be the first on offense.
Much like this
He blitzes, or attempts to -- those that he can barely see. He isn't invisible, stealthy, nor is he moving at speeds that Fury cannot react to. This fight will be CQC because that's simply what Wrath does. That will not pan out in his favor for this specific battle.
Fury here reacts to an invisible teleporting ninja warrior in Yoshimitsu. Whose speed is already on par if not passed Bradley given his evasion of a mini gun. A gatling gun expertly and casually wielded by Bryan Fury. The gif you shared was not the same. I am willing to concede that maybe Bradley harbors more speed than Yoshimitsu just for the simple fact that he has more feats of him using pure speed, but if so, it's not by much at all. During that bullet barrage put on by Bryan, we see Yoshimitsu have to stop and jump into the air while activating his invisibility. Meaning he actually dodged the bullets of said mini gun in order to enact a counter.
So, with this in mind.
Fury doesn't even have to see his foe to react and attack and/or land a lethal blow. Sure, Bradley can dodge gun fire, but dodging a mini gun is extremely difficult for street levelers. Its projectiles are discharged like a laser. You could use all the speed and evasive tactics you so desire, but you aren't out maneuvering a Cyborg enhanced maniac who can tank a helicopter explosion to the face as seen here. Also notice the spinning helicopter blades aiming directly for Bryan before he is engulfed in rising flames and metal destruction. If those blades did absolutely nothing to a still standing Bryan, not even trying to escape its path, what exactly do you think is going to happen here when he is actually fighting to survive and is serious?
Numerous times in the intro I shared, we see Bryan react and even parry in CQC; a hidden/invisible Yoshimitsu and coming out on top several times. Some times due to his built in scanners and some due to instincts.
Bradley certainly has the speed edge here. That is understood. However, just as Bradley is -- he will always take pleasure and indulge in a fight against someone that presents a very real challenge. It's in his whole speech before he fights Scar. He has displayed this fact with Lan Fan, Scar, and multiple times against Greed. He won't use the hit and run tactic. Being the competitor he is, he will partake in a physical/melee altercation with Fury. But that will be his downfall here.
I just don't put Bradley's swords on the same level of destruction capability as helicopter blades. Or anything else that Fury has endured so very easily and emerged unscathed.
Bradley will showcase his superb speed definitely. He may even dodge some pistol shots from Fury while charging him at high speeds. He will at some point, get an opening to strike because of how elusive he is. (keep in mind that this is without me weighing on Fury's ability to shoot guns with great marksmanship without even looking. Though my belief that though Bradley is fast it will only help him so much here.) This is if Fury chooses to go straight melee vs melee route with combat knives.
All Fury has to do is tank or react to a single attack from Bradley before getting up close. As we have seen his strength. He has more than enough power to incap or severely hinder Bradley if not straight out KO him quickly. There really isn't much you can do here.
You don't have the damage output to even remotely harm Fury
Fury has more than enough raw strength to kill Bradley.
Fury's weaponry/tech is far different than what Bradley is used to.
Literally your only advantage is speed. That will only prolong the inevitable.
Bryan doesn't even have to see Bradley to hurt him via scanners/instinct.
It seems as though from that gif, the first few shots/bullets he unloaded went straight into the dirt as they made their way to Ed. Leaving a trail of sparks heading toward Ed before he creates the wall. Certainly a flaw in the marksmanship of the shooter. No crazy dodging or deflecting from Ed. I also don't remember the exact context of that scene so maybe the guy was toying with him, but it's very clear that if he had any sort of aim and didn't play it cocky, he most certainly would have filled Ed with bullets.
Oh boy, I was expecting some doubt regarding the feat...
Regarding the context of the scene, Father Cornello was intending to actually kill the Elric Brothers (with Rose Thomas being behind Ed in the line of fire) instead of toying with them.
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As for your claim of Cornello missing, I already showed you Cornello in the manga scan and anime gif pointing the Minigun directly at the Elric Brothers instead of downwards…
The bullets towards the ground signify the direction of the overall bullets heading towards Ed since the Minigun has a rate of fire that wildly shoots bullets both in the air and around the ground.
Though even if I were to assume Cornello initially missed and eventually reached Ed, the gif still shows Ed does not initially move after Cornello has already fired the Minigun and literally blocked accurate bullets that could have hit him (and seemingly Rosé Thomas) had Ed not intercepted the bullets through the alchemy shield.
Lastly, I must point out that Ed's alchemy transmutation is performed via clapping.
Meaning Ed actually had to perform excess movements of clapping and then touching the ground all before the more accurate Minigun bullets reached him.
That will only help him evade
The Ultimate Eye is not only useful for general evasion, but would also allow Bradley to outfight Bryan in cqc to stay one step ahead of his strikes/tactics.
An example of this in combat was when the ninja Fu attempted a suicidal attack via setting off bombs strapped to his chest to take out Bradley along with himself.
However, Bradley was able to analyze his opponent and efficiently sliced off the fuses of the bombs in a swift stroke to thwart Fu’s efforts while remaining one step ahead of Fu the entire time.
Essentially, Bradley via the Eye would telegraph any strike to react/counterattack accordingly given how you admit he has the superior speed.
Another example of him getting in too close. He does that with Fury and his weapons will break apart or he will get caught by the mad cyborg and forced to eat a bullet.
Up close, Bradley has the advantage of slicing apart Bryan's weapons...
Also, Bradley was able to slice apart a tank shell in a rather versatile showing of strength, skill, and speed.
Realistically, the tank shell should have been strong enough to snap Wrath's steel rapier like a twig while exploding on contact since tank shells are explosive. Yet, Wrath was able to rather casually intercept the tank shell after it was fired and slice through it in mid advancement without getting pushed back whatsoever. For reference, the Briggs tank in the anime appears to resemble a Panzer IV tank which primarily had a tank armament of the 7.5 cm KwK 40 which has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.7.
Wrath's swords via his skill are strong enough to block Bryan's striking strength, slash through him, and won't break as easily as you think (not to mention Bradley has 5 swords at his disposal).
Bradley as both shown in the gifs/scans you shared and in the actual show tends to be unafraid to initiate conflict with those who pose a threat. I mean, why wouldn't he? Very few can match his speed and masterful swordsmanship. It's in character for him to rush in and be the first on offense.
He blitzes, or attempts to -- those that he can barely see. He isn't invisible, stealthy, nor is he moving at speeds that Fury cannot react to. This fight will be CQC because that's simply what Wrath does. That will not pan out in his favor for this specific battle.
Bradley certainly has the speed edge here. That is understood. However, just as Bradley is -- he will always take pleasure and indulge in a fight against someone that presents a very real challenge. It's in his whole speech before he fights Scar. He has displayed this fact with Lan Fan, Scar, and multiple times against Greed. He won't use the hit and run tactic. Being the competitor he is, he will partake in a physical/melee altercation with Fury. But that will be his downfall here
It's a strategy that would still work to Wrath's advantage here since power scaling against Yoshimitsu isn't enough for Bryan to meaningfully keep up with Wrath's speed and fighting style.
GreedLing for example was fast/skilled enough to not get blitzed, generally displayed more flashy acrobatics than Wrath (or even Bryan), and had the superficial strength advantage against Wrath's normal sword through his sturdy Ultimate Shield arms. Yet, GreedLing was still overwhelmed by Bradley's attack speed as well as Ultimate Eye being one step ahead of him despite Wrath using only 1 eye in this duel for example.
And Wrath could use a combination of his h2h skill as well as superior speed to seize reckless openings and use Bryan's strength/momentum against him via swift grappling throws before Bryan could counterattack.
Even if Bryan could defend to the extent of GreedLing, Bradley would be relentless enough to not give Bryan any opportunities to rest or counterattack.
The instance with the original Greed also highlighted how Wrath was able to use the Eye to pick up and exploit Greed’s weakness of being unable to harden and regenerate at the same time (which was an additional reason Wrath efficiently applied relentless offense against him).
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Fury here reacts to an invisible teleporting ninja warrior in Yoshimitsu. Whose speed is already on par if not passed Bradley given his evasion of a mini gun. A gatling gun expertly and casually wielded by Bryan Fury. The gif you shared was not the same. I am willing to concede that maybe Bradley harbors more speed than Yoshimitsu just for the simple fact that he has more feats of him using pure speed, but if so, it's not by much at all. During that bullet barrage put on by Bryan, we see Yoshimitsu have to stop and jump into the air while activating his invisibility. Meaning he actually dodged the bullets of said mini gun in order to enact a counter.
Sure, Bradley can dodge gun fire, but dodging a mini gun is extremely difficult for street levelers. Its projectiles are discharged like a laser.
I find it hilarious that you think Yoshimitsu’s speed is on par or superior to Bradley when you showed he got tagged by pistol bullets…
Even ignoring the high likelihood that Yoshimitsu simply aim dodged the path of Bryan’s Minigun bullets even when invisible, being able to avoid a wave of Minigun bullets after they were fired without even deflecting/keeping up with the rate of fire is nowhere near on par let alone better than Wrath’s best bullet timing feats.
The muzzle velocity of bullets from a Minigun is Mach 2.5 btw.
Bradley was able to casually deflect multiple machine gun bullets fired from a M1919 Browning (which has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.5 plus a rate of fire of 500 rounds per minute/8 rounds per second) after they were fired while still advancing forward without slowing down.
And Bradley also casually weaved in front and out of multiple M14 rifle bullets (which also has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.5 but a rate of fire of 725 rounds per minute/12 rounds per second) after they were fired while once again advancing forward undeterred.
Although the imprecise rate of fire from the Minigun could perhaps overwhelm Bradley if he were to go out of his way to deflect every bullet, I'd argue it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for Bradley to keep through deflecting/blocking with his sword given how all of his bullet timing instances are casual.
Regardless, Bradley could simply just evade the muzzle velocity of the bullets through aim dodging or outrunning the initial bullets via a burst of speed while still advancing forward if he notices the rate of fire would be too excessive.
You could use all the speed and evasive tactics you so desire, but you aren't out maneuvering a Cyborg enhanced maniac who can tank a helicopter explosion to the face as seen here. Also notice the spinning helicopter blades aiming directly for Bryan before he is engulfed in rising flames and metal destruction. If those blades did absolutely nothing to a still standing Bryan, not even trying to escape its path, what exactly do you think is going to happen here when he is actually fighting to survive and is serious?
I just don't put Bradley's swords on the same level of destruction capability as helicopter blades. Or anything else that Fury has endured so very easily and emerged unscathed.
Honestly, the helicopter blades appeared to be above Bryan while he primarily tanked the explosion of the helicopter.
Even if I were to assume that's the case, helicopter blades don't have the same precision or speed as a clearly superhuman/massively FTE swordsman who can skillfully cleave through an explosive tank shell without breaking apart his steel rapier or making the tank shell detonate.
Though I'm still saving another showing of Bradley's striking strength for now.
He will at some point, get an opening to strike because of how elusive he is. (keep in mind that this is without me weighing on Fury's ability to shoot guns with great marksmanship without even looking. Though my belief that though Bradley is fast it will only help him so much here.)
Dude, marksmanship via a pistol wouldn't come close to tagging a casual bullet timer.
A guy like Bradley can nonchalantly disrespect the accuracy of bullets fired from machine guns with muzzle velocity equal to a Minigun.
Along with the tank shell feat, this goes to show Bradley’s fully capable of outmaneuvering while advancing even in cqc.
Numerous times in the intro I shared, we see Bryan react and even parry in CQC; a hidden/invisible Yoshimitsu and coming out on top several times. Some times due to his built in scanners and some due to instincts.
This is if Fury chooses to go straight melee vs melee route with combat knives.
At best, Yoshimitsu’s Minigun evasion feat appears to be more comparable with Fu being able to evade the machine gun bullets initially fired directly at him from a M1919 Browning while still advancing and agilely running up a wall.
Fu was also skilled and fast enough to overwhelm the bullet timer Alphonse in cqc.
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Yet, Bradley was able to react and successfully defend against Fu's attempted blitz from behind with just a pair of average daggers.
And Bradley was able to overwhelm and outfight Fu in spite of Wrath's initial weapon disadvantage while skillfully breaking apart the dagger (which Bradley can end up doing to Bryan's dagger as well) after Wrath forced Fu to switch weapons.
Wrath also fended off both Fu and GreedLing (whose comparable to Fu in overall speed) through seamless offense + defense with the daggers. Aside from showing how Wrath can keep up with two highly skilled and agile bullet timer level opponents working together, this further showcases how Wrath was able to skillfully minimize damage to his unremarkable weapons against a physically strong opponent (GreedLing) via his master swordsmanship.
And this was all in spite of daggers not even being his weapons of expertise compared to the sword.
Given Bradley's experience, it would be all the more easy for Wrath to skillfully dismantle Bryan's dagger via Bradley's superior swords and Ultimate Eye.
As we have seen his strength. He has more than enough power to incap or severely hinder Bradley if not straight out KO him quickly. There really isn't much you can do here.
Admittedly, while Wrath would be significantly injured from some full power punches by Bryan, the Führer is too stubborn to go down even when severely wounded.
For example, Wrath would still end up dominating the bullet timer Scar through superior h2h/cqc skill and speed despite being in a half dead state and Scar initially attempting a blitz from behind.
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To be as thorough as possible over his injuries beforehand, Wrath first gets sneak attacked by a circumstantial stab from Captain Buccaneer, and in the confusion barely gets his Ultimate Eye gouged out by GreedLing.
In this state, he would still brush off the impact of propelling his body through a brick wall.
Afterwards, Wrath gets shot in the shoulder by a Briggs soldier due to being in an inconvenient position and falls hundreds of feet into the waters below.
Yet, Bradley survives and manages to endure his injuries.
The grievously wounded Wrath would also still sponge a forceful unblocked kick from Scar as he counterattacks with a skillful toss using Scar's strength and momentum against him.
And Scar's not exactly a slouch in striking strength or cqc skill.
For starters, Scar can easily smash through pavement without deconstruction alchemy.
And threw a blunt pipe with enough force to puncture Solf J. Kimblee and forcefully send the Crimson Red Alchemist flying back several feet.
Scar was also to physically contend and parry strikes with Alex Louis Armstrong (who also happens to be Scar's equal in speed) in cqc.
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For reference, the Strong Arm Alchemist's physical striking strength is comparable to the force of artillery weaponry.
I'll support this statement regarding Alex's strength in my next post.
While Scar may not exactly be Armstrong's equal in physical strength, it still highlights Scar's physical ability to be able to keep up with Armstrong's strength.
And considering Scar was still fast enough to easily outpace the inexperienced Elric Brothers (who're still bullet timers), yet got outclassed by an incredibly hindered Wrath, I'd say a severely wounded Wrath would still outpace and dominate Bryan in the worse case scenario Wrath gets severely hindered via some unlucky tags.
Summary:
Bryan's best advantage is durability which will only delay the inevitable given Wrath's augmented striking strength, and superior skill + speed.
Bryan's strength advantage is basically pointless given Wrath's superior combat speed/reactions, ability to minimize damage to his steel swords, and endurance in a severely wounded state.
Bryan at worst is getting blitzed, and at best would still get dominated while on the defensive from Wrath's relentless combat style which seamlessly blends offense as a defense. Nonchalantly intercepting a Mach 2.7 tank shell and nonchalantly dancing between multiple Mach 2.5 bullets while advancing forward is faster than anything Yoshimitsu or Bryan has shown.
Bryan's weaponry is easily avoidable and can be sliced apart in cqc. Bryan's scanner does not guarantee he can actually react to Bradley even if Bradley won't be literally invisible.
Bradley's Ultimate Eye (in conjunction with his overall speed) offers an insane advantage up close and range to outmaneuver and tactically outfight Bryan by analyzing his movements to stay one step ahead of him.
I mean, we can. I have no issues with that. In all honesty however, 1 more counter/conclusion should suffice. There wasn't much to go over that we haven't already.
The bullets towards the ground signify the direction of the overall bullets heading towards Ed since the Minigun has a rate of fire that wildly shoots bullets both in the air and around the ground
Yes, if an amateur or careless shooter is at the helm of such a weapon. Fury fires it and aims with ease. Ed would have alot lesser shot of dodging his shots if he was the one firing.
Though even if I were to assume Cornello initially missed and eventually reached Ed, the gif still shows Ed does not initially move after Cornello has already fired the Minigun and literally blocked accurate bullets that could have hit him (and seemingly Rosé Thomas) had Ed not intercepted the bullets through the alchemy shield.
Well yea... A number of bullets hit the ground... If the bullets had been fire expertly; I lower Ed's chances of just "blocking" it.
Meaning Ed actually had to perform excess movements of clapping and then touching the ground all before the more accurate Minigun bullets reached him
What?
Again, he had time because of the sloppy marksmanship. And we're still talking about Ed.
The Ultimate Eye is not only useful for general evasion, but would also allow Bradley to outfight Bryan in cqc to stay one step ahead of his strikes/tactics
No. It's only useful for general evasion. Since he'll realize that literally nothing he does works on the cyborg killer Fury. He'll have to use speed to dance around. His up close speed doesn't compare very much to a nemesis who is fast as heck in his own right and consistently uses invisibility/teleportation when confronting Bryan. Bryan will see Bradley, though fast, it is not that big a deal under these circumstances.
Up close, Bradley has the advantage of slicing apart Bryan's weapons..
Up close. Swinging his swords in the manner he did with Greed would be tanked casually until Bryan rips his throat out.
Also, Bradley was able to slice apart a tank shell in a rather versatile showing of strength, skill, and speed.
That's not good enough to even barely hinder Bryan.
Realistically, the tank shell should have been strong enough to snap Wrath's steel rapier like a twig while exploding on contact since tank shells are explosive. Yet, Wrath was able to rather casually intercept the tank shell after it was fired and slice through it in mid advancement without getting pushed back whatsoever. For reference, the Briggs tank in the anime appears to resemble a Panzer IV tank which primarily had a tank armament of the 7.5 cm KwK 40 which has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.7.
We get it. He's a fast swordsman.
Wrath's swords via his skill are strong enough to block Bryan's striking strength, slash through him, and won't break as easily as you think (not to mention Bradley has 5 swords at his disposal)
He probably will have to go through all 5 tbh.
It's a strategy that would still work to Wrath's advantage here since power scaling against Yoshimitsu isn't enough for Bryan to meaningfully keep up with Wrath's speed and fighting style.
That's all you have is speed. But as I stated before. Bradley will get up close, not knowing fully what Bryan is, and that will be his end.
and Scaling is ok. Moderately. Half of your posts has literally nothing to do with King Bradley.... It doesn't work all the time. It just looks silly. We know Bradley is fast but you insist on hammering that point home. His speed will help him here. But only to survive longer than most who face Fury.
Don't worry though. I'll have a segment of scaling myself later on.
GreedLing for example was fast/skilled enough to not get blitzed, generally displayed more flashy acrobatics than Wrath (or even Bryan), and had the superficial strength advantage against Wrath's normal sword through his sturdy Ultimate Shield arms. Yet, GreedLing was still overwhelmed by Bradley's attack speed as well as Ultimate Eye being one step ahead of him despite Wrath using only 1 eye in this duel for example.
And what did Bradley's swords do to him? Even if he was overwhelming him.
And Wrath could use a combination of his h2h skill as well as superior speed to seize reckless openings and use Bryan's strength/momentum against him via swift grappling throws before Bryan could counterattack
Lol, I hope Bradley tries H2H here.
Even if Bryan could defend to the extent of GreedLing, Bradley would be relentless enough to not give Bryan any opportunities to rest or counterattack
He doesn't need to rest. He has a built in machine/generator that fuels him physically. You will tire long before he does. And this fight could very well come down to that.
I find it hilarious that you think Yoshimitsu’s speed is on par or superior to Bradley when you showed he got tagged by pistol bullets…
Even ignoring the high likelihood that Yoshimitsu simply aim dodged the path of Bryan’s Minigun bullets even when invisible, being able to avoid a wave of Minigun bullets after they were fired without even deflecting/keeping up with the rate of fire is nowhere near on par let alone better than Wrath’s best bullet timing feats.
The muzzle velocity of bullets from a Minigun is Mach 2.5 btw.
Bradley was able to casually deflect multiple machine gun bullets fired from a M1919 Browning (which has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.5 plus a rate of fire of 500 rounds per minute/8 rounds per second) after they were fired while still advancing forward without slowing down.
And Bradley also casually weaved in front and out of multiple M14 rifle bullets (which also has a muzzle velocity of Mach 2.5 but a rate of fire of 725 rounds per minute/12 rounds per second) after they were fired while once again advancing forward undeterred.
Although the imprecise rate of fire from the Minigun could perhaps overwhelm Bradley if he were to go out of his way to deflect every bullet, I'd argue it wouldn't necessarily be out of the question for Bradley to keep through deflecting/blocking with his sword given how all of his bullet timing instances are casual.
Regardless, Bradley could simply just evade the muzzle velocity of the bullets through aim dodging or outrunning the initial bullets via a burst of speed while still advancing forward if he notices the rate of fire would be too excessive
That's nice.
What you seem to not grasp is that Bryan can pull out a mini gun and wield it like standard issue police glock. He could, in theory, use it while the distance has closed a bit. Since he can maneuver it effortlessly, and Bradley isn't dodging that gunfire easily. Not at all actually.
Honestly, the helicopter blades appeared to be above Bryan while he primarily tanked the explosion of the helicopter.
Even if I were to assume that's the case, helicopter blades don't have the same precision or speed as a clearly superhuman/massively FTE swordsman who can skillfully cleave through an explosive tank shell without breaking apart his steel rapier or making the tank shell detonate
Wut?
Helicopter Blades
It depends on the engine and weight of a helicopter, but the typical helicopter blade set spins at 460 rpm to 600 rpm.
I the gif I shared, you see Bryan not even budge. He stood and welcomed the averted chopper and its blades. Then emerged unscathed. These blades are huge and move at high speed. What do you think Bryan is going to do when you come swinging swords in his direction?
Dude, marksmanship via a pistol wouldn't come close to tagging a casual bullet timer.
A guy like Bradley can nonchalantly disrespect the accuracy of bullets fired from machine guns with muzzle velocity equal to a Minigun.
Along with the tank shell feat, this goes to show Bradley’s fully capable of outmaneuvering while advancing even in cqc
I am not saying Bryan's guns will definitely work but I am making them known as a piece of equipment he carries and they need to be taken into account. This fight will most likely end with Fury murdering you with his hands.
Given Bradley's experience, it would be all the more easy for Wrath to skillfully dismantle Bryan's dagger via Bradley's superior swords and Ultimate Eye
Experience is key word. While Bradley certainly has alot of it, this fight -- he is out of his depth. He has absolutely no experience facing someone like Bryan. Bryan however has a nemesis in Yoshimitsu who is similar except a better swordsman and not as fast as Bradley.
Yoshimitsu's Sword is magical/corrupted energy based and is enhanced with hidden techniques making it the last of its kind. That's why it can inflict any sort of damage on Bryan.
Also, better swordsman is easily Yoshimitsu. His sword is more than an art to him and he uses it as an extension of himself. His fighting style and historied experience make the sword just that. Another limb rather than a tool for battle. He is so dman good at it.
He uses the sword itself to propel over ground and through the air like a helicopter. Simply because he casually spins it so damn fast above his head, and it can suspend his body weight mid - air:
He does this technique throughout the games but here at 2:31, he does it again. He also uses his sword as a pogo stick mid battle as a unique and different addition to his fighting style.
I can find pics of it, but I wanted a video. http://At 1:22 we see him utilize such a pogo stick/sword technique while in mid combo.
Really all Bryan is dealing with here is a faster swordsman. He isn't better or more skilled than Yoshimitsu, and that will help Bryan greatly.
In this state, he would still brush off the impact of propelling his body through a brick wall
But they ceased their onslaught after hurting him. Bryan won't.
Afterwards, Wrath gets shot in the shoulder by a Briggs soldier due to being in an inconvenient position and falls hundreds of feet into the waters below.
Yet, Bradley survives and manages to endure his injuries.
The grievously wounded Wrath would also still sponge a forceful unblocked kick from Scar as he counterattacks with a skillful toss using Scar's strength and momentum against him.
And Scar's not exactly a slouch in striking strength or cqc skill.
For starters, Scar can easily smash through pavement without deconstruction alchemy
That's impressive for Scar. But not as impressive as Fury ripping off the top of a tank and casually tossing it several yards.
Afterwards, Wrath gets shot in the shoulder by a Briggs soldier due to being in an inconvenient position and falls hundreds of feet into the waters below.
Yet, Bradley survives and manages to endure his injuries.
The grievously wounded Wrath would also still sponge a forceful unblocked kick from Scar as he counterattacks with a skillful toss using Scar's strength and momentum against him.
And Scar's not exactly a slouch in striking strength or cqc skill.
For starters, Scar can easily smash through pavement without deconstruction alchemy
I feel like i'm debating against 8 different characters at this point.
My Scaling Part Now
Speed statement. Let's introduce you to my rather heavy set blonde haired fella friend, Bob.
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Here during a robbery, Bob is reading a paper, and notice hostiles in the area. Even Bob sees bullets in slow motion as he gets up from the chair, runs toward the bullet... Before dodging and reaching the assailant before they can react. Lesser Tekken characters keep up with him fine.
Bryan Fury has experience and hazardous encounters with all of them and is still seen as a top tier in the Tekken universe. Bob had to make multiple actions before dodging an already fired bullet.
Put the paper down
Stand up
Run toward the bullet
Then dodge.
Oh, then dodges a 2nd bullet from near point blank range after disposing of the first guy.
Final Conclusions
As I said before, scaling is fine. You however take it to an unseen (at least in my eyes) degree. I felt half of this debate, was me debating against Lan Fan, Greed, Ed and others. King Bradley was just there.
You only have speed as your advantageous factor; and not by much.
You aren't a deadly CQC fighter. You aren't a better swordsman than the mystic samurai in Yoshimitsu. You can't turn invisible or teleport. You don't have the cutting feats to deal any type of significant damage to Bryan. Even the lower placed fighters in Tekken can dodged bullets after they have been fired, and they all keep up with each other fine.
You will tire long before Bryan does.
Bryans guns are here but I don't find them necessary to win the fight. I just wanted to touch on them.
Bryan is just plain better at everything other than speed. Strength, Durability, Stamina, H2H, Experience with teleporting invisible master swordsman, and expert marksmanship.
All in all, you just have no way to put my guy Fury down or, even hinder him significantly
Only way this fight lasts longer than 5 minutes is if you evade, evade, evade but not to beat a dead horse, but Bradley is a competitor and WILL get up close and his cutting and striking feats just aren't good enough here. That will be where he meets his death. Its just what he does.
Yes, if an amateur or careless shooter is at the helm of such a weapon. Fury fires it and aims with ease. Ed would have alot lesser shot of dodging his shots if he was the one firing.
Well yea... A number of bullets hit the ground... If the bullets had been fire expertly; I lower Ed's chances of just "blocking" it.
What?
Again, he had time because of the sloppy marksmanship. And we're still talking about Ed.
The thing is Cornello also simply fired at Ed without any significant difficulty. The bullets on Ed’s shield signify how Cornello didn’t aim at the ground since Cornello didn’t continue shooting much longer after the smoke rose (at least in the gif).
Ed basically succeeded in blocked the more airborne bullets through swift movements yet Wrath was still depicted as massively faster for Ed to keep up with.
No. It's only useful for general evasion. Since he'll realize that literally nothing he does works on the cyborg killer Fury. He'll have to use speed to dance around. His up close speed doesn't compare very much to a nemesis who is fast as heck in his own right and consistently uses invisibility/teleportation when confronting Bryan. Bryan will see Bradley, though fast, it is not that big a deal under these circumstances.
Yoshimitsu is still considerably slower compared to Wrath, and the Ultimate Eye’s clairvoyance remains an effective counter to foresee Bryan’s offensive and defensive movements as they happen.
Wrath has options to outmaneuver/block Bryan’s offense at close range while forcing Bryan on the defensive as Wrath notices valuable openings to seize through his Ultimate Eye.
Up close. Swinging his swords in the manner he did with Greed would be tanked casually until Bryan rips his throat out.
That's not good enough to even barely hinder Bryan.
Bryan's durability feats mostly amount to tanking bullets and explosive force, and Wrath KO'd Roa effortlessly the first time around despite being ambushed from behind.
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Roa is an opponent with comparable durability feats to Bryan but with an emphasis on resistance to piercing damage.
For example, Roa was able to tank multiple submachine gun bullets with superficial grazes.
And he was able to remain standing after withstanding a beating from Armstrong's striking strength. Note that Roa is also showcasing piercing durability from Armstrong's spiked gauntlets.
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Now to further support why Armstrong's strength is comparable to artillery fire or even greater with a feat, Alex was able to damage Sloth with a barrage of swift punches.
So basically, Roa's a sturdy guy in his own right as the damage he received from the bullets + artillery force were basically superficial and wasn’t noticeably hindered. Yet, Wrath also slaughtered Roa in a final rematch.
Now I can see Bryan lasting reasonably well with his impressive durability, but it wouldn't be enough to survive unscathed from Wrath's onslaught.
We get it. He's a fast swordsman.
He probably will have to go through all 5 tbh.
So you’re gonna ignore how Wrath’s swords have stayed intact multiple times against force strong enough to shatter plain steel swords and whatnot while Bradley's strength nonchalantly overpowered the velocity/momentum of artillery firepower?
and Scaling is ok. Moderately. Half of your posts has literally nothing to do with King Bradley.... It doesn't work all the time. It just looks silly. We know Bradley is fast but you insist on hammering that point home. His speed will help him here. But only to survive longer than most who face Fury.
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Not that I was against scaling, but you seriously had the gall to say that when a good chunk of your posts are more about Yoshimitsu rather than Bryan’s own lack of individual speed feats like bullet timing?
My throwaway feats with Wrath blitzing characters like Lan Fan and Greed in my intro (that aren’t even Wrath’s best or most crucial feats) were just supplementary feats to mostly showcase consistency in Wrath blitzing the Elric Brothers.
And in my case, I was basically providing related feats as reference for the characters Bradley directly interacted with (without necessarily saying Wrath can recreate their feats). Your example with Bob isn’t the same...
And what did Bradley's swords do to him? Even if he was overwhelming him.
GreedLing was unable to reliably counterattack, as he was forced to barely block with his sturdy Ultimate Shield arms.
Bryan on the other hand, would be continuously slashed in the upper body while on the back foot.
He doesn't need to rest. He has a built in machine/generator that fuels him physically. You will tire long before he does. And this fight could very well come down to that.
This won’t be a battle of stamina, although Bradley’s stamina is still considerable enough to fight for hours on end.
And Bradley’s marathon feats against GreedLing + Fu, and Scar happened after Wrath survived an assassination attempt and already traveled a considerable distance across the Eastern region of Amestris to his Central Command palace located in the Central region of Amestris by foot for hours (without being noticeably hindered by exhaustion).
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That's nice.
What you seem to not grasp is that Bryan can pull out a mini gun and wield it like standard issue police glock. He could, in theory, use it while the distance has closed a bit. Since he can maneuver it effortlessly, and Bradley isn't dodging that gunfire easily. Not at all actually.
That wouldn’t make a difference. Shooting at Wrath would be easier said than done as Wrath is fast enough to significantly outpace Bryan and his dual swords offer more range to generally block. Since Bradley can close the distance in seconds and foresee movements through his superhuman perception, it’s unlikely Bryan will even get the opportunity to wield his Minigun at any range.
Nonetheless, at a distance, Wrath is capable of easily outmaneuvering Bryan’s Mach 2.5 bullets head on more easily than Fu himself.
At close range, Wrath simply dismantles the Minigun as easily as Buccaneer’s automail.
Wut?
It depends on the engine and weight of a helicopter, but the typical helicopter blade set spins at 460 rpm to 600 rpm.
I the gif I shared, you see Bryan not even budge. He stood and welcomed the averted chopper and its blades. Then emerged unscathed. These blades are huge and move at high speed. What do you think Bryan is going to do when you come swinging swords in his direction?
Looking back, I guess I can see the blades heading at Bryan (though the clip isn’t exactly clear as to whether or not the blades directly touched Bryan or missed cause of the blades blending in with the background).
Nonetheless, the typical revolutions per minute of helicopter (which didn't spin for long when the copter crashed into Bryan) is comparable to the rounds per minute from the machine guns Bradley can effortlessly deflect and surpass in speed. Bradley was strong/skilled enough to harm an opponent with comparable durability feats to Bryan and also showed greater finesse cleaving through a propelled tank shell without detonating it.
So I can see Wrath surpassing the strength and speed of those blades while applying more precise strikes and techniques.
Experience is key word. While Bradley certainly has alot of it, this fight -- he is out of his depth. He has absolutely no experience facing someone like Bryan. Bryan however has a nemesis in Yoshimitsu who is similar except a better swordsman and not as fast as Bradley.
This isn’t Yoshimitsu vs Wrath. At the end of the day, Bryan doesn’t have notable fights with an opponent as fast + skilled as Wrath nor experience in countering his combat clairvoyance.
On the other hand, Wrath will know what to expect with Bryan’s dagger play. As far as immense durability is concerned, Wrath used techniques to take down Roa despite his commendable resistance to piercing damage.
While Bryan’s precious durability and strength is impressive, he'll ultimately go down as Bryan has no reliable way to tag Bradley whose augmented with the Ultimate Eye.
Also, better swordsman is easily Yoshimitsu. His sword is more than an art to him and he uses it as an extension of himself. His fighting style and historied experience make the sword just that. Another limb rather than a tool for battle. He is so dman good at it.
He uses the sword itself to propel over ground and through the air like a helicopter. Simply because he casually spins it so damn fast above his head, and it can suspend his body weight mid - air:
He does this technique throughout the games but here at 2:31, he does it again. He also uses his sword as a pogo stick mid battle as a unique and different addition to his fighting style.
I can find pics of it, but I wanted a video. http://At 1:22 we see him utilize such a pogo stick/sword technique while in mid combo.
It’s a neat technique, but that’s more of a flashy showing rather than say feats of outskilling another swordsman. Not to mention, you didn’t showcase any instances of Yoshimitsu utilizing the technique in combat against Bryan to cement Bryan’s skill.
Furthermore, the slower Scar also dealt with a flashy opponent known as the Silver Alchemist who also utilized a similar technique in combat. The Silver Alchemist could apparently spin his blade so fast he was not only depicted as a blur to Scar, but was also able to hover like a helicopter while suspending his body weight and propelling forward. Despite this, Scar was able to pass through the spinning blades without getting sliced and diced to shreds.
So I don’t think Yoshimitsu’s flashy technique is anything Bradley couldn’t handle tbh.
Regardless, I’d similarly also argue Wrath’s mastery of swordsmanship is an extension of himself through preventing his swords from easily snapping through parrying and versatility through being able to fight proficiently with a pair of average daggers without prior experience in the aforementioned weapons.
Aside from conquering nimble ninjas/bullet timers in spite of disadvantages in gear, Bradley was conditioned since infancy in fencing and martial arts while perfecting his craft for 60 years to be unmatched in terms of skill in the FmA verse.
When also taking into account Bradley’s superior bullet timing feats, feats of overwhelming bullet timers, and Ultimate Eye, Bradley is simply a superior swordsman to Yoshimitsu.
That's impressive for Scar. But not as impressive as Fury ripping off the top of a tank and casually tossing it several yards.
That’s basically lifting strength. Bryan didn’t even show any individual striking feats beyond Armstrong tbh.
But they ceased their onslaught after hurting him. Bryan won't.
It still shows how Wrath would be capable of fighting through several seemingly fatal injuries. Not that Bryan would get much opportunities to retaliate to begin with.
I feel like i'm debating against 8 different characters at this point.
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I was just showing Wrath’s prior injuries and elaborating Scar’s strength…
Speed statement. Let's introduce you to my rather heavy set blonde haired fella friend, Bob.
Here during a robbery, Bob is reading a paper, and notice hostiles in the area. Even Bob sees bullets in slow motion as he gets up from the chair, runs toward the bullet... Before dodging and reaching the assailant before they can react. Lesser Tekken characters keep up with him fine.
Bryan Fury has experience and hazardous encounters with all of them and is still seen as a top tier in the Tekken universe. Bob had to make multiple actions before dodging an already fired bullet.
Put the paper down
Stand up
Run toward the bullet
Then dodge.
Oh, then dodges a 2nd bullet from near point blank range after disposing of the first guy.
Eh? you haven’t even shown any direct confrontations from Bryan and Bob to directly scale. This is more like an assumption of Bryan being equal to Bob without showing how well they fared against each other.
Though, Bob’s feat against a pistol bullet is comparable to Alphonse’s own pistol bullet interception and wouldn’t even help Bryan against Wrath anyways. Not to mention Bradley actually has separate feats of casual bullet timing unlike Bryan.
Final Conclusions
Bryan's sole meaningful advantage is durability, but Wrath will be able to wear him down given that Bradley has experience with durable opponents like Roa and the strength/skill to surpass a tank shell. Bryan's durability isn't enough to come out completely unscathed while his lack of endurance will also hurt his ability to stay in the fight with Wrath for long.
Bryan's strength advantage is still basically pointless given Wrath's superior combat speed/reactions, ability to minimize damage to his steel swords, and endurance in a severely wounded state.
Bryan's weaponry is honestly a non factor that can be outmaneuvered at any distance and would be dismantled in cqc.
Wrath significantly outclasses Bryan in swordsmanship/cqc skill and speed. Bryan's dagger skill isn't identical to Yoshimitsu's techniques nor anything new for Wrath. Wrath's speed feats like casually intercepting a Mach 2.7 tank shell, nonchalantly dancing between multiple Mach 2.5 bullets while advancing forward, and overwhelming bullet timers is noticeably better than what Bryan or Yoshimitsu have to offer.
The Ultimate Eye gives Bradley a significant advantage to foresee Bryan's combat tactics and advances to accordingly counter through evasion or punishing the cyborg's openings even up close.
Bryan will remain on the back foot overwhelmed by Wrath's relentless combat style as his attempts to retaliate are outmaneuvered in close range by the Führer. In a span of minutes, Wrath will ultimately stand on top, generally untouched.
But anyway this almost feels like a stalemate since neither combatant's weapons are going to be effective against the other.
Even if Bradley can't bullet dodge a 6000rpm Minigun I think he would have no trouble aim dodging & just simply stay out of Bryan's crosshairs.
Cutting a tank shell in half is impressive but I don't think it's good enough to cause any more than superficial damage to Bryan
So it just comes down to who'll last longer in CQC & like @morleericks said cyborgs don't get exhausted & Bradley's striking power just isn't going to cut it.
@handyjayjr: my references to Yoshimitsu was when he combated Bryan. Anything else I shared regarding him was in no way combat oriented by scaling off multiple characters. It was either his confrontations with Bryan, or his swordsmanship cutscenes that I put on display.
Point being, my scaling always had something to do with Bryan directly. Except one. (Bob)
I feel like this entire CaV was way longer than it needed to be. There was just way too much scaling/ABC logic going on. Tekken is a fighting game and cut-scenes involving quantifiable feats for Bryan are few and far between, so at least he has an excuse.
Bradley on the other-hand, has plenty of quantifiable speed feats all on his own. There really was no need for such a lengthy post regarding feats for all the people Bradley has blitzed. So that's points off on Gothamciti.
Overall, Bradley is significantly faster than Bryan, but Morlee proved that Bryan could tank any sword strike Bradley attempted. With that in mind, this becomes largely a battle of attrition. Morlee went over the fact that Bryan's stamina was nigh infinite, whereas Gotham admitted in his very first post that Bradley has to endure quite a bit of strain on his body. My vote goes to @morleericks
I didn't intend to give off the impression that Wrath could replicate every feat from the opponents he fought like typical scaling/ABC logic, but looking back I can see how elaborating the context of his opponents in his lesser feats can be redundant and whatnot :P
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