CaV: k4tzm4n (Bane) Vs Strider92 (Bullseye)

@JamesKM716: Just FYI, It's based on the debate presented, not your own thoughts, silly :P

@k4tzm4n: I had initially considered what James said with the Venom pipes but chose not to bring it up as unless Lester see's Bane turn the Venom on he probably wouldn't put 2 and 2 together......even if he did its still debatable whether he'd aim at that or Bane due to his cocky attitude.

@k4tzm4n: WEll, i'm only a month old (on here) now i gots to re-read all this :p

EDIT: Based on the arguements, i think you presented a better one.

@JamesKM716 said:

@k4tzm4n: WEll, i'm only a month old (on here) now i gots to re-read all this :p

Based on your av, I assume you loved Red Dead Redemption.

So, here's some music while you read:

@k4tzm4n said:

@JamesKM716 said:

@k4tzm4n: WEll, i'm only a month old (on here) now i gots to re-read all this :p

Based on your av, I assume you loved Red Dead Redemption.

So, here's some music while you read:

I have the sudden urge to go round up Zombies with a lasso!

@Strider92: I never got the DLC :(

@k4tzm4n: ....And this is why you're the best staff member :D

@k4tzm4n: Shame tying up Zombies is fun!!!! And riding around on daemon ponies is even more amusing!!!!! Daemon ponies!

@JamesKM716 said:

@k4tzm4n: ....And this is why you're the best staff member :D

Ehhh I'm alright, but thank you :D

GUYS, VOTING IS NOW OPEN! PLEASE READ THE DEBATE AND VOTE BASED ON THAT!

@k4tzm4n: I'll just do it the old fashioned way and call them in lol:

@CadenceV2@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek@Mr_Ingenuity@Esquire@YoungJustice@TheAcidSkull@Imagine_Man15@Deranged Midget@Floopay

mind reading through this and voting :)?

@Strider92 said:

@k4tzm4n: I'll just do it the old fashioned way and call them in lol:

@CadenceV2@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek@Mr_Ingenuity@Esquire@YoungJustice@TheAcidSkull@Imagine_Man15@Deranged Midget@Floopay

mind reading through this and voting :)?

VINERS ASSEMBLE!

So I have to vote against a mod? I'm scared....I may into an "accident"....

@Strider92 said:

@k4tzm4n: I'll just do it the old fashioned way and call them in lol:

@CadenceV2@YourNeighborhoodComicGeek@Mr_Ingenuity@Esquire@YoungJustice@TheAcidSkull@Imagine_Man15@Deranged Midget@Floopay

mind reading through this and voting :)?

You will pay dearly for not calling me to vote.

@k4tzm4n:

You too.

@laflux: Ah snap. I just copy pasted the list from another thread didn't think to add others :(

@laflux: Hey man, I didn't @ anyone!

@YoungJustice said:

So I have to vote against a mod? I'm scared....I may into an "accident"....

Our power stretches far beyond the site. There's nowhere you're safe! :P

I'll go with k4tzm4n for this one.

I actually been reading this earlier. In the end its going to Bane for this Debate. I feel more convince Bane can dodge and tank the small arms projectiles and wreck in CC.

@k4tzm4n: Has my Vote.

I also have to go for K4tz, although Strider debated extremely well, also.

@CadenceV2 said:

I actually been reading this earlier. In the end its going to Bane for this Debate. I feel more convince Bane can dodge and tank the small arms projectiles and wreck in CC.

@k4tzm4n: Has my Vote.

This, although Strider debated very well as well. I liked how Gregg mentioned Bullseye's tendency to play with his victims at range, which would give bane a chance.

Great work guys, lets hope me and Cadence can live up to it in our debate.

Anyone else want to vote?

I dont know if I'm supposed to vote or not, but i read through all of this and i would personally edge it to k4tzm4n. He had me convinced that bane would win this battle. Good arguments on both sides though.

As comicvine world heavyweight champion, I vote K4tz gets two votes from me. He is a war god of paper, pen and spandex.

Strider92.

Got to say k4tz

@k4tzm4n said:

Anyone else want to vote?

I will be sure to vote. Just give me a minute...

@nickzambuto said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Anyone else want to vote?

I will be sure to vote. Just give me a minute...

He says 2 hours and 48 minutes ago :P

@k4tzm4n said:

@nickzambuto said:

@k4tzm4n said:

Anyone else want to vote?

I will be sure to vote. Just give me a minute...

He says 2 hours and 48 minutes ago :P

I had really cool important stuff to do that didn't involve video games.

Now, as for the match, you both did well, spoiler made a lot of great points, but spoiler countered almost all of them. In the end, my vote goes to,

Also, personal note to k4, if that's Bane's best, I am now CONVINCED that Chris is stronger, more durable, faster, and more agile than Bane.

@god_spawn said:

As comicvine world heavyweight champion, I vote K4tz gets two votes from me. He is a war god of paper, pen and spandex.

Since you're the champ, who has the other belts?

@k4tzm4n: Idk. A CV battle forum belt system would be kind of fun IMO, but I'm a wrestling fanatic. I mean we already have a Hall of Fame too. I'd personally even keep a blog of who is champ of what. Like have a cosmic champ, street level champ, brick champ. And with the Challenge a Viner thing going strong, maybe it could work. You could be street level champ or just Battle Forum War God >:D.

Strider92

@k4tzm4n: @Strider92:

I actually gotta go with Strider92 here. Both did a great job to be honest, came down to the adamantium bones for who was victorious for me.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@Floopay said:

@k4tzm4n: @Strider92:

I actually gotta go with Strider92 here. Both did a great job to be honest, came down to the adamantium bones for who was victorious for me.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

Your vote will remain the same, but how did adamantium make a difference? I pointed out it has never made him too durable to knock out, nor has it made his strikes hard enough to hurt Bane significantly. Strider even agreed on that.

@god_spawn said:

@k4tzm4n: Idk. A CV battle forum belt system would be kind of fun IMO, but I'm a wrestling fanatic. I mean we already have a Hall of Fame too. I'd personally even keep a blog of who is champ of what. Like have a cosmic champ, street level champ, brick champ. And with the Challenge a Viner thing going strong, maybe it could work. You could be street level champ or just Battle Forum War God >:D.

Well, I just meant for fun if you were to apply to the current belts to Viners. For example, if you called strider and YNCG the tag team champions.

I'd go with K4tz.  I think his point about Bane's ability to endure pain and damage was persuasive.  Love that "wrist guards are for chumps" scan.  But really great efforts from both debaters.

@k4tzm4n:

It gives a slight edge against a guy who relies a lot on blunt force, wresting, and who has regularly used "breaking" somebody (whether it's putting a whole in them, breaking an arm, ripping one off, etc.) as a tactic.

Realistically this fight seemed extremely even to me, in most capacities. Where Bullseye has accuracy, Bane has agility (not that Bullseye was inferior in that department, just that Bane had enough to offset the other). Where Bane has the ability to close the gap, Bullseye has the reflexes and speed to counter Bane.

But at the end of the day it seems like the two are relatively even. However, Lester hanging in close quarters and possible creating more of a gap between them in the event of close quarter combat (at least that's the point I thought he was making midway down Page 2) and give himself more range to use to his advantage seemed more likely once adamantium hits the picture, as Bane would have a harder time going for the quick win (not saying he COULDN'T do it, you proved he definitely could).

Realistically I want to give this about 5/10 both ways. But if I had to pick a winner, I would give it to someone with a greater arsenal, more versatility, and the slight durability boost. Again, good arguments were made on both sides, but midway through page 2 his end of the debate seemed to click with me, but both sides were pretty even.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@k4tzm4n: I think this could be fun and add some new dynamics. Like tag team debates =OO....

Since I won that debaters round 3 thing I dubbed myself champ >:D. So I guess the list would be like

Heavyweight Champ -God Spawn.

Street Champ- Jashro

Cosmic Champ- Killemal

Brick Champ- Lvenger

Gaming Champ- Deranged Midget.

Tag Champs YNCG and Strider.

Wargod- K4tz.

Vance-Vance.

@god_spawn: LOL at the last one.

@god_spawn: Sounds like a good idea to me :)

@Floopay said:

@k4tzm4n:

It gives a slight edge against a guy who relies a lot on blunt force, wresting, and who has regularly used "breaking" somebody (whether it's putting a whole in them, breaking an arm, ripping one off, etc.) as a tactic.

Slight is the key word.

As I said, this hasn't stopped Daredevil from knocking his lights out, nor will it save his limbs. He only has his spine, skull and hands laced. This means his arms can still be broken... or even ripped off ;)

@k4tzm4n said:

@Floopay said:

@k4tzm4n:

It gives a slight edge against a guy who relies a lot on blunt force, wresting, and who has regularly used "breaking" somebody (whether it's putting a whole in them, breaking an arm, ripping one off, etc.) as a tactic.

Slight is the key word.

As I said, this hasn't stopped Daredevil from knocking his lights out, nor will it save his limbs. He only has his spine, skull and hands laced. This means his arms can still be broken... or even ripped off ;)

I know, slight is very much the keyword there. Again, I really viewed this as 5/10 both ways. It just came down to a "If I absolutely had to choose, this would be why" thing.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

@k4tzm4n: HAH!

@Strider92 said:

@god_spawn: Sounds like a good idea to me :)

@god_spawn said:

@k4tzm4n:

Gaming Champ- Deranged Midget.

Willing to contest that.