CaV: DMS Kakashi (Cosmic_Lantern) vs. SS Vegeta (Streak619)

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#1  Edited By Cosmic_Lantern

DMS Kakashi (Cosmic_Lantern):

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Golden Susanoo FTW.

SS Vegeta(streak619):

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Rules:

  • Takes place on DBZ earth,100 yards apart
  • Random encounter, both know they will be fighting someone
  • Everything else assume standard
  • Vote for better arguments not the character

Another one in the books folks.....

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@streak619 Please do us the honors of opening this up my good man.

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T4V

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Oh jeez

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#6  Edited By Narutogen13

Well this was unexpected I'm kind of speechless Cosmic this is probably the craziest thing you've done and I applaud you for it best of luck this is certainly going to be interesting tag

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Duuuuuuuuuuude

Tag.

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#9  Edited By Cosmic_Lantern

@narutogen13: Craziest? Not so sure, I've said some obscene things by some people's opinion. I don't think I need to go as in depth as I did in Sasuke Vs Freeza but I'll try to add some snappiness to it, thanks.

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T4V's muh dudes

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Would have been better if @cosmic_lantern were the one representing Vegeta.

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#12  Edited By darthjhawk  Moderator

Ohhhhh Yes! This should be good T4V! I promise to vote on this

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@cosmic_lantern: dude mention whether the versions, ie. Saiyan saga and DMS

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@cosmic_lantern: oh yeah I forgot you did that debate that was a pretty good debate as well

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@streak619: it's literally in the title....but whatever I'll edit it

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@cosmic_lantern: I think I will let you open, I have attempted posting my opener twice now, and each time it gets rejected because of some CSFR Token nonsense, today is clearly not my day, I do not have the patience to type something that big for a 3rd time, and will unlikely have any for a day or 2.

Hope you'll understand and very sorry for the inconvenience.

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@streak619: Are you debating on your phone again? Please tell me you're not.

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@streak619: You gotta reload the page when that happens. Make sure to copy your post before you do though.

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@god_vulcan: Yes, but this time it is desktop mode. I can edit, format and post scans etc.

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@major_hellstorm: Yeah but since I'm on a phone, albeit on desktop mode, I can't copy-paste pictures, only text. I even tried posting my opener via an alternate tab, and bringing in the scans all over again, but that was rejected under the same excuse 'CSFR token invalid' or some bullshit like that.

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@major_hellstorm: Yeah but since I'm on a phone, albeit on desktop mode, I can't copy-paste pictures, only text. I even tried posting my opener via an alternate tab, and bringing in the scans all over again, but that was rejected under the same excuse 'CSFR token invalid' or some bullshit like that.

just do it on a laptop lol

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@streak619: CV saves all images you save in it so manually putting your images back shouldn't be too hard if you didn't post too many. Although there might be a problem with your scans or so ethingif another tab won't accept it.

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#31 higherpower  Moderator

@streak619: When the CSFR shows up you have to refresh your page to continue to post. Copy the text you wrote then refresh the page and paste it.

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Why is Kaka's Susano'o piss-yellow? :s

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#33  Edited By Streak619

Vegeta

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Character info

Vegeta is the prince of all 8 Saiyans, son of King Vegeta, brother to Tarbles. He is a proud, regal and ruthless warrior with a superiority complex. And most important of all, his favourite colour is Pink. This man won't think twice about giving innocent people a painful death.

Strength

Vegeta is strong for sure, but how strong?

For starters:

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Casually tosses Nappa up high, as if he were a stuffed teddy, not too shabby, but not impressive by top Naruto tiers.

Goku pre Saiyan Saga was doing this:

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This would translate to roughly a sage mode level feat.

SS Vegeta is stated to be superior to Kaio-Ken Goku, or atleast Kaio-Ken x4 or x5. it is reasonable to infer that the feat of flipping giant Picolo would be child's play for SS Vegeta.

Now multiply that by 10 and you get Great Ape Vegeta

Conclusion: Vegeta is massively stronger than Kakashi.

This drastic and insurmountable strength gap, pretty much puts a massive dent into Kakashi's chances of winning h2h combat, considering even a single solid strike would crush half his bones.

Speed

Popo is a casual lightning timer:

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Later in the series, Goku moves so fast that even Kami, who is far superior to Popo in all attributes, couldn't even see him:

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Conclusion: teen Goku is massively lightning++, SS Vegeta is far superior to teenage Goku, I'll let you draw the implications.

Goku outright dodges a laser:

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This shows that even kid Goku's combat and reaction speed can peak LS.

SS Vegeta is MFTL to a reasonable degree, and is unfathomably faster than Kakashi in terms of combat and reaction speed.

Kakashi's best feat is chopping a bolt of lightning, with the 3 tomoe sharingan, getting another isn't anywhere near enough to allow him to react to vegeta.

Conclusion: SS Vegeta is massively faster than Kakashi.

Durability

Tanked a city vaporiser attack without a scratch.

As you can see the explosion is so great, it can be seen from space.

They probably wouldn't even feel it, if they had their eyes closed, which is a clear indication of how durable they are.

Vegeta would casually tank everything the perfect Susanoo has to offer. Not to mention, unlike an explosion which is omnidirectional, the Susanoo can only dish out linear or planar AOE attacks, which is far easier to avoid.

Overall Conclusion: Vegeta has more than enough durability to tank everything the Susanoo has, and his durability is gigantically superior to that of Kakashi's.

Destructive Capacity

Vegeta is a planet buster.

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Before some of you scream:"Hyperbole!", let me ask you to read the scan carefully and note that Goku's shock and anxiety at this threat is enough testimony to give credit to Vegeta's statement. Goku knows Vegta's limits in terms of all stats, seeing as how he pushed Vegeta to the ropes himself. His concern is visible evidence for Vegeta's statement's credibility.

Conclusion: SS Vegeta's DC is casually on par with the likes of Kaguya's, if not greater, considering this was a milesone in their fight, and he was exhausted and damage.

Either way, far exceeding that of Kakashi's.

Genjutsu and Kamui

Genjutsu:

Won't be effective as disrupting your Chakra is the key to breaking out of Genjutsu, which is what fighters from dbz do all the time:

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Seeing as how Vegeta and others in DBZ power up or so, by riling their Ki and manifesting more of it, thereby increasing their overall power level.

Not to mention the more Chakra you have, the harder it is to be out in a genjutsu, proved by the fact that Obito couldn't completely put all the Bijuu in a genjutsu, due to their massive Chakra reserves

Not to mention Cosmic hasn't even made Chakra = Ki...

Kamui:

Double MS Kamui is too slow as it only has a double digit nanosecond activation time, seeing as it was able to blitz Rikudou Madara. Either way, the likes of an ability like that is nowhere near fast enough to tag the likes of Vegeta.

Not to mention, Kakashi has only ever opened up with Kamui a hand full of times across 500 episodes, each with their own circumstances that are not present in this battle. Therefore it is unlikely for Kakashi for to open up with Kamui, especially when he isn't aware of how inferior he is to Vegeta.

Conclusion

Kakashi's attributes are massively inferior to that of SS vegeta's, such that even 2 trump cards that are normally in favour of the Narutoverse are negated by techniques that are normal in DBZ and the massive gap in the stats themselves.

Oops almost forgot:

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X 10 for all stats.

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#34  Edited By Streak619
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lmfao

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@thenewguysnm1: I mean even if it is a watered down version, why is this bad?

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@thenewguysnm1: I mean even if it is a watered down version, why is this bad?

its not i meant to post that in my thor thread lol

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#39  Edited By TheDeathstroke

@streak619: Wayyyyyy better formatting then your previous CaV.

T4V

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*hits drink*

Looks like I might be in over my head on this one. I'm so perplexed I don't even know where to begin, nanoseconds being too slow for vegeta oh my.....I should've picked Wally west.

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T4v i guess people are looking for ez W's these days

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#46  Edited By Streak619

@cosmic_lantern said:

*hits drink*

Looks like I might be in over my head on this one. I'm so perplexed I don't even know where to begin, nanoseconds being too slow for vegeta oh my.....I should've picked Wally west.

Th amount of irony in this post is suffocating.

But oh well, save the hot air for you opener, but I don't need to tell you that, now do I?

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@streak619: *hits drink*

Only thing that's suffocating me is your ignorance on either of these characters. I would save some hot air for myself but im afraid you used it all inflating that nonsense of a post.

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@cosmic_lantern: lol, alright alright, let's end this, and have you post your opener.

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@streak619: Oh don't mind me, it's going to take a minute I like to come out the gates blazing. I promise I'm going to give you what you're looking for, rest assured.