CaV: Dark Schneider (God_Vulcan) vs Composite Goku (HitTheAssasin)

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Disclaimer

This a disclaimer, or formal warning message denouncing responsibility. From here on out, this thread will be NSFW. For those of you who don't know, the Bastard!! series is overflowing with scans that contain excessive nudity, explicit gore, and an abundance of profanity. I too, will also be taking advantage of the profanity and be using such words in my post. But hey, at least now you know.

So, Viewer Discretion Advised. Let's hop into it!

Enter the Stage: Son Goku

Represented by my good friend, @hittheassasin

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Dark Schneider

Represented by me, @god_vulcan

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Battle info

  • Combatants at their absolute strongest
  • Goku has composite feats
  • No knowledge or prep
  • Random encounter
  • In-character, but determined to win
  • Fight to the KO, incap, or death
  • Start 100 meters apart

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Voters:

  • Please refrain from posting your opinion on the match until it's done.
  • Ask to be tagged if you wished to be tagged for voting.
  • Don't vote on who you think is more powerful, but on who had the better arguments.
  • When giving your vote, give an explanation on why you think the person won
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#2  Edited By HigherPower

@hittheassasin Does it look good? I actually think I might have to change the location to indestructible planet because of Goku's inability to survive in space.

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#3  Edited By Godren

@god_vulcan: This matchup should stir lots of interest.By composite Goku do you mean everything like Games and Movies?

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@god_vulcan: yeah, you should probably do that.

Apart from that it looks good though.

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For those of you who don't know, the Bastard!! series is overflowing with scans that contain excessive nudity, explicit gore, and an abundance of profanity.

Nice, T4V.

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@godren said:

@god_vulcan: This matchup should stir lots of interest.By composite Goku do you mean everything like Games and Movies?

That is the plan. And yes, composite feats, so anime, manga, games, movies, specials, crossover, etc.

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T4V

Hopefully Goku is represented well but I defiently am interested in learning more about how powerful DS is. Hopefully this will be finished.

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Beerus vs LB Goku+Manga Goku would be a good match considering both have existence erasing attacks and Universal Potency. Anyways this seems a good CAV. GL Guys.

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Yeah, I would love to be tagged. Looks good

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T4V. This should be good.

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#16  Edited By HigherPower

@hittheassasin: Yessir. I was planning posting right away but my post got eaten so give me a while to edit.

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T4V

Vulcan if I've taught you anything, its to wank you're character till there is nothing left.

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#19  Edited By HigherPower

@jaycool2: Life is too short to not wank someone until fiction explodes. You've taught me well

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T4V

@chaos239 said:

Hopefully Goku is represented well but I defiently am interested in learning more about how powerful DS is.

Just read the manga. It's one of the unique enough stories and you will be able to see how author's artwork improves over the year.

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@deathhero61: what? I don't see anything wrong with this, you?

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@deathhero61: what? I don't see anything wrong with this, you?

Don't worry about it, just a personal gripe is all.

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#25  Edited By Cable_Extreme

Tag me when the debate is done.

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T4V, This is going to be good :)

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#28  Edited By EzraArcher

T4V good luck

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#29  Edited By green_skaar

My notifications don't work, so just marking this thread to come back later :)

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#30  Edited By oceanmaster21

tag for votes

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Huh. Interesting.

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#33  Edited By HigherPower

**FOREWARD** - In case you didn't catch the drift in the OP, it should be noted that this post (actually all of mine) will contain sensitive images, profanity, and more NSFW content. It also will be packed to the brim with heavy spoilers for the Bastard!! series.

Viewer Discretion Advised.

@hittheassasin Alright. Let's get this party started!

Adam of Darkness

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I mean, I can just go badass and say something cool like "This man needs no introduction", or whatever, but I actually like Darsh's backstory despite how weird it is.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Bio

Dark Schneider is a 400 year-old legendary wizard and the main protagonist (occasional anti-hero) of the Bastard!! franchise. He's the most powerful wizard in the verse, and 15 years prior to the start of the series, he attempted to take over the world with an army of wizards and his 4 handy subordinates, the Riders of Havoc. However, his plans for world domination were foiled as we was defeated by the Prince of Metallicana, Lars-Ul. Despite this, he was able to reincarnate himself inside the body of a young boy named Lucien Renren, and could materialize his true form upon the kiss of a virgin.

Powers and Abilities

Thanks to his absolutely nonsensical powerset, Dark Schneider is and will always be force to reckon with. He's been a menace on the battle boards across many forums for years, ripping through threads and stomping everyone's favorite characters. This phenomenon has spawned a well known disease called the Get-Wrecked-By-Darsh syndrome which is highly contagious. So don't worry if you've been f*cked over before, either by his religiously devout wankers and rabid stans. It's a side effect of being overpowered and handsome, two things DS is known for (;

Now, without further ado, let's run down the list:

  • Darsh has Superhuman Strength, easily surpassing 6 digit tons
  • FTL speeds, whether it be combat, short burst, reaction, or travel speed
  • Superhuman physical durability (as well as endurance and stamina)
  • Extreme Pain tolerance (withstood the effects of Judas Pain, which makes the user feel immeasurable spiritual, physical, and mental pain without limit)
  • Regeneration (True-Godly)
  • Enhanced senses
  • Flight
  • Can use Magic (and has an abundance of spells)
  • Telepathy
  • Illusion Creation
  • Energy Manipulation
  • Soul manipulation
  • Matter Manipulation
  • Fire Manipulation
  • Lightning Manipulation
  • Air/Wind Manipulation
  • Acid Manipulation
  • Sealing
  • Summoning
  • Petrification resistance
  • Poison resistance
  • Forcefields
  • Creation (can create beings from memory)
  • Power Nullification
  • Attack Reflection
  • Transformation
  • Resurrection

Phew... that should be most of it.

Physicals

As you might already know or have guessed, I used to be one of those debaters who practically make my openers mini-respect threads. In this post I'll keep things short and sweet so I'll only be running over his base stats, as sort of a breather instead of clogging the voters with information in the first post.

So, while he is mostly known for his spells and magical abilities, Darsh is no slouch when it comes to H2H and physical confrontation. I will admit that Goku is probably his superior in this category cause he's a fucking brick due to being a well known brawler.

That being said, the one category Goku is NOT superior to Darsh in is speed, so I'll start there.

Fast af boi

To put it shortly, DS is fast AF. Now how fast is that you ask? Easily thousands upon thousands (when highballed possibly millions in later forms) of times faster than the speed of light. Let's take a look at a few facts:

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28,000 light years from the Planet Earth lies the center of the galaxy, a supermassive black hole known as the Dark Abyss, which is also the entrance to Hell. It took angels close to 4 years to traverse that distance casually, and unless you have a brain tumor or are in the second grade, simple math tells us these angels are over 7,000x faster than the speed of light (FTL).

Here is the proof:

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- Scan 1) A description of the Dark Abyss, which I just talked about

- Scan 2) The fleet of Angels guarding the Abyss, which included Uriel and several others

- Scan 3) The 4-year timeframe being explictly stated by the author/narrator

- Scan 4) Uriel arriving on Earth (subsequently followed by the other Seraphs)

To further corroborate the speeds of the high ranked Angels like the Seraphs, here is the author/narrators description of them:

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That should solidify them being FTL+ based on both actual, quantifiable feats and Word of God. Why is this important? Because Darsh is easily faster than the Seraphs, by many times actually. Here Darsh in base blitzed Konron effortlessly, and he was so fast to the point that Seraph Rapheal (who's at least 7,000x FTL) couldn't even see him move:

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- Scans 1-2) Confrontation with Konron

- Scan 3) Their collision

- Scans 4-5) Konron's body bisected cleanly in 2 as a result of Darsh's blitz

And finally...

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Rapheal not even being able to see it. At all

Keep in mind this is Darsh's speed IN BASE (far over 7,000c). Let's keep moving shall we?

He's rlly strong too

Darsh is rlly strong too. In fact he's stronk (as an intellectual myself, I can tell you that strong with a k = more power).

A modest striking feat for him is punching Konron hard enough to crack the earth down to the mantle, releasing magma:

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A far, far weaker version of Darsh (also in base) displayed strength that easily surpasses 6 digit tons in casual lifting.

Context-

In the first handful of chapters of the entire series Darsh was able to summon a Stone Golem to fight on his behalf, and it weighed in at over 100,000 tons (200 million lbs):

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- Scan 1) Darsh summoning the Golem

- Scan 2) The Golem making a full appearance

- Scan 3) Darsh boasting the Golems weight to the ministers of Metallicana

Darsh then again summoned the Golem in his confrontation with Omega Abigail, and not only was Abigail larger in size it won a grapple with the golem which depicts comparable if not superior weight and power:

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- Scan 1) The Golem being summoned to intercept Abigail before he could attack Nei

- Scan 2) Perspective shots for the Golem and Omega Abigail

- Scan 3-5) The Golem and Abigail engage in a trade of blows, with the Golem having more raw power by hitting Abby's weak spots

- Scan 6-7) Abigail gets fed up and oneshots the Golem with a blast

After this Omega Abby literally stomps on DS:

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- Scan 1) Abby steps on Darsh

- Scan 2) Darsh lifts his foot and overpowers him

-Scan 3) DS throws him several meters through the air

- Scan 4) Abby crash landing through walls of Metallicana's castle

Like I said earlier, Darsh typically relies on magic for attacks so he doesn't have many more raw strength feats down the road, at least until his higher forms. But Darsh being able to easily overpower characters in the 100,000 ton weight class is extremely impressive, especially when compared to Goku who struggled to lift just 40 tons on King Kai's planet as of Buu saga.

2 durable 4 you

Darsh's greatest aspect of his physical prowess is his uncanny durability. However this durability extends to hax resistance, temperature resistance, pain tolerance, regeneration and true immortality. If you think I'm joking about the immortality, just be aware that Darsh has died and came back to life at least 3 or 4 times over the course of the story, WITHOUT the help of plot devices like Dragon Balls. But I'm not so much of a dick to post images of that or tell you how it happens, if you do end up reading the series. So we should settle for this:

DS is immortal:

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- Scans 1-3) Just read them lazy ass. They're explicit

Heat Resistance

One of Darsh's first few durability related feats was his extreme resistance to heat and temperature attacks. Here he encounters Efreet, the Demon of Fire:

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Efreet can manipulate fire spells in excess of 2 thousand degrees

He then tanks a Guns N' Roses fire blast from him:

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Context:

Efreet's blast was twice as powerful as a regular Guns n' roses from arsh and was hot enough to melt pure stone:

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This is again reaffirmed by Darsh saying Efreet's next attack will turn the stone corridor into a sea of magma. This is easily several thousand degrees in temperature:

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This next heat resistance feat is ridiculous. In order to counter Efreet's "Flaming Wave Hellion", Darsh covers his body in flames exceeding 20,000 degrees C. He does so by stacking the spells on top of each other, and this results in Efreet's defeat (heh):

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Further explanation:

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Not only does this take immense heat resistance to survive (if he uses it on you), it also doubles as durability/heat resistance for DS. Including that, this is also the debut for Exodus, which is a candidate for one of Darsh's most overused spells.

As for blunt force durability, his showings were mostly poor until he reformed during the battle with Konron. For context Konron has nuke level punches in base (around 20% of his power):

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The specific punch in that scan blew apart Darsh's body, who had nuke level durability at that point. But Darsh was still alive. After regenerating and taking the match seriously he grew strong enough to the point he was unfazed by Konron's attacks and finger flicked one of his arms off at 50%:

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- Scan 1) Konron describing the attack

- Scan 2-3) The attack being initiated

- Scan 4) Darsh blowing off his arm

Here's a good showing for Darsh's pain tolerance and tenacity:

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- Scan 1-2) Has his shoulder cleaved through and his leg chopped off

- Scan 3) The wound is increased and his shoulder and legs are crushed

- Scan 4) His entire lower body and torso are completely exploded off

- Scan 5-6) He gets impaled right through the chest by Agigail's Thor beam

And if you think all of these lower end feats are impressive, notice that that's just for pain tolerance.

Here he's unbothered by Porno ripping his heart out. She accomplished this with Dark 7th Bullet, an attack with the force of a nuke. Darsh has also ripped out his own heart before so the removal or destruction of extremely vital organs doesn't bother him:

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It should be noted that he tanked the attack. He only split because Porno was a virgin and she kissed him.

In addition to what Darsh can tank, he also has immense energy absorption. He was able to absorb the force of Seraph Michael's God Hard blast which had the force of a Supernova:

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- Scan 1) Beelzebub stated that he ate Michael's fire. She is also apparently sucking his dick.

- Scan 2) Rapheal comparing it to a Supernova

Spells

Darsh has a plethora of spells, both offensie and defensive, and even more for misclellaneous purposes. I'll run through all the main ones and then talk about his forms:

Exodus-

Along with Helloween, this is Darsh's main go-to spell. I already introduced it earlier, but outside of his battle with Efreet he's used it so many different times. Anyway just a recap. He covers his body in heat's surpassing 20,000 degrees C and launches himself like a torpedo towards his enemy:

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His use against Abigail. It completely penetrates his armor and destroys the landscape.

Helloween-

Equally in spammability as Exodus. This is one of Darsh's favorite and most basic spells. He fires a powerful beam of focused energy towards his opponent, kind of like his very own personal kamehameha:

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^ His use against Abigail.

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^ Overpowers Nei with it

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^ Fires it against Kall

Jude the Priest -

*Not to be confused with Judas Priest*

DS fires a blast at his opponent that destroys them on an atomic level. First uses it on Anthrasax:

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Kall confirms it as an atomic destruction attack:

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Chanters-

Darsh manifests 3 demonic faces on his body. This allows him to cast 4 spells at once, one of these spells including Kall Su's Testament:

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Casts the spells:

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Context-

Kall Su's Testament is an ice attack that freezes the victime at absolute zero temperature, then destroys all matter on a sub-atomic level:

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Venom-

DS summons bacteria and enzymes from hell to consume his target. It has an acid like effect

Here is it's first use (gore incoming):

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Kills another mage:

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Can even use it while in Lucien's body:

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It's effects on Kall:

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Black Sabbath-

One of Darsh's strongest spells Pre-Hell arc. It creates a magical space containing a vacuum, then draws in and compacts matter until it triggers nuclear fusion. This then becomes a catalyst for a temperature increase, where the heat inside that pocket space skyrockets to over 1 million degrees Celsius, burning the victim to death. Then, as if that wasn't enough, the remains of the target are transported to another dimension:

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Here's the canon explanation:

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Led Zeppelin-

DS casts a barrier over his opponent and summons starving souls from Hell to devour his target:

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Fiery Blast of the Damned-

Darsh attacks his opponent with an explosive blast:

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Oneshots Cockatrice:

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He uses it to melt Lynch:

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Context-

Lich was wearing special armor (one of the 3 Satanic Weapons) that allowed him to no-sell combined attacks from Nei and Gara:

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Guns n' Roses-

Roasts his opponent alive with fire:

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Balvolt-

DS channels a bolt of lightning from the sky:

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Anselm-

Energy blasts that target the most vulnerable parts of the body:

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Megadeath-

Creates a giant explosion. It destroyed a castle:

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Rainbow's Mystic Arrows-

Launches a volley of magical energy arrows at his target. He's soft on women so he didn't kill Kai :P

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Riot-

Similar to Balvolt. Blasts a stream of electricty towards his opponent:

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Summonings-

DS can use sommoning spells. The first one is the Golem we already talked about:

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He can also summon Salamnders from the elemental Plane of Fire (he can also summon Efreet or use him as a sword):

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He later summons Dragons who can cast powerful spells themselves:

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And later he became powerul enough to summon the notorious Dragon Knight Lucifer.

Illusions-

Darsh can manipulate illusions. He normally uses it to make dopplegangers or copies of himself to take his place from an attack. But it has other uses too:

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^ Using it on Sean Ari to trick her.

Puts Kai under an illusion mid-battle:

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Vengeance-

Used it to blast a hole through this monster:

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On a different occaision:

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Acid Drinker-

Get a face full of Acid bishhh:

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Sepulchre-

A singular, focused stream of magic energy fired at his target:

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These aren't all of his spells but some of his most powerful ones while he was still in base. And since most of this opener has shown his base form capacity, I'll dish out information on his major forms:

Forms

Lucifer (aka Lucien Renren)

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Some people might argue that Lucien Renren and Darsh are different people, but that's is actually not true. Well, not completely true.

You see, when Darsh was defeated by Prince Lars Ul Metalicanna 15 years before the start of the series, Lucien didn't exist at that point. Heck, even Yoko was only 15 and Lucien was 14. What happened was Darsh reincarnated himself into Lucien's body, so every time he was kissed by a virgin the seal would break. But after Darsh used the soul transfer on Yoko, some mumbo jumbo happened and they weren't really connected anymore. This is why when Porno kissed Darsh he just split into tiny version of himself rather than reverting into Lucien.

Also, since darsh was capable of fighting the werewolf (I showed the scan with Venom earlier) I have reason to believe he can retain Lucien's powers in his Angel form.

TL;DR

Darsh gains all of Lucien's feats in Angel form. If you don't believe me, just read this scan:

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DS sent him as an astral projection while he was sealed off in the Alcatraz dimension. And any beings in Bastard!! are composed of Astral, Spiritual, and Physical bodies. So Lucien is a part of DS.

Why is this important? Because Lucien has one of those nifty abilities called time-stop:

Freezes time while fighting the Angels:

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He also has other feats like blocking an attack that could destroy the Arc (floating ship they fought on) six times over:

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This might not seem impressive until you know just how large the Arc is. Here are perspective shots. It's easily the size of an island:

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Dwarfs mountain ranges

Lucien was also generaly stomping the Dominions and oneshotting groups of Angels at a time. But I digress, as usual.

Next form!

Majin Dark Schneider

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If you're a battle forum person, you've probably heard of him. If you haven't, you either live under a rock or don't have access to internet. Majin Dark Schneider is one of the most overpowered characters of his tier.

Darsh aqcuires this form by stealing 6 fragments of the Judas Pain (a jewel that is the key to Hell) from the 7 Kings of Hell. Beelzebub didn't lose his and Darsh had one already in his body:

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In this form his strengh increases millions of times (and he was already a 100,000+ tonner in base) and his senses increase thousands of times:

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The power of the Judas Pain absorbs all matter around his body and converts it into an infinite amount of energy:

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Despite these bonuses, the drawbacks and negative side effects of entering this form are absolutely horrendous. I see no purpose in telling you what they are though :P

Powerup!

Dragon Knight Lucifer

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The Dragon Knight is an ancient powerful armor created by the 12 Wise Men of Europea. It was originally constructed as a counter-measure to combat the Dark God of Destruction Anthrasax. DS Summons it in his battle with Uriel after Uriel gained a massive powerup, going from Fallen Uriel into his Augoiedes form (which was sealed in the ice of Cocytus, the lowest level of Hell). This is Darsh's most powerful combat-applicable form, and his second most powerful form overall.

This is him summoning it. Pretty cool sequence:

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It was capable of fighting on par with Uriel after his size increased 17 times, then his strength increased 130x more powerful 130x over (so 16,900 times more powerful in total):

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Last form:

Adam of Darkness

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DS' final and strongest form. He abilities were compared to God, or at least really close to him.

DS has far more feats and spells I haven't shown, but this should suffice for now.

Strategies

This section will be dedicated in laying out several complex and elaborate strategies that Darsh can utilize to beat Goku. So, we enter the battle.

Darsh and Goku make eye contact. Naturally wanting to test their abilities, they engage in battle

Strat 1. Assuming they both start in base, Darsh will hold a monumental speed advantage, as Goku has no feats topping 7000c movement speed in base or even in some on his strongest forms. And because of this speed advantage, he'll get all of his attacks off first.

So, Darsh activates Chanters. Then, he's capable of casting 4 different spells at the same time. So it goes like this:

Testament + Black Sabbath + Jude the Priest + Exodus = Dead Goku.

Why? Testament freezes him at Absolute Zero temperatures, which you need specific freeze resistance too, then destroys him at a sub-atomic level. Goku needs feats of resisting absolute zero and sub-atomic destruction to survive that, which he does not. After that, Darsh hits him with Black Sabbath, which burns him to a million degrees (needs heat resistance to survive that too), destroys his atoms, then BFR's him to a different dimension. Finally, Jude the Priest blows apart his atoms again (well, what's left of them) and he finishes him off with Exodus.

GG.

Strat 2. If you someone find away to counter the first strategy, which needs two types of extreme temperature resistance and three types of atomic destruction resistance to survive, I have a few more waiting for you.

Helloween + Venom + Led Zeppelin + Sepulchre

Halloween first distracts him, then Venom uses bacteria to eat his flesh and bones, then Led Zeppelin seals him and uses souls from hell to devour his body. Finally he blows him up with Sepulchre.

GG

Strat 3.

Time stop + Acid Drinker + Damned + Tesla

Stops time, corrodes him with acid, roasts him with Damned, electrocutes him with Tesla.

GG.

Strat 4.

If those strategies don't float your boat, how about we mix and match?

Testament + BFR + Megadeath + Anselm

Strat 5.

Or maybe...

Black Sabbath + Vengeance + Time Stop + BFR

Strat 6.

Hey let's try-

Balvolt + Jude The Priest + Acid Drinker + Rainbow's Arrows

Strat 7.

Let's give this a spin:

Time Stop + Testament + Efreet summon + Damned

Strat 8.

Or even:

Blitz + Jude The Priest + BFR + Acid Drinker

Strat 9.

Blitz + Time Stop + Black Sabbath + Megadeath

Strat 10.

Has sex with Bulma :D

GG.

Conclusion

Dark Schneider has more versatility than Goku and more options and techniques to use his battle. And while in their base forms, Darsh's stats absolute trump his and Goku doesn't have a counter to a lot of his hax or temperature resistance for most of his abilities. I believe once we start debating their more powerful forms (when I introduce Majin and DKL and debate them, and when you bring up SSB and Ultra Instinct) that this statement of a versatility advantage will hold true.

Overall Darsh has more abilities, greater stats (at least in later forms) and greater defensive hax and destructive output. I've only presented Darsh's feats and spells in base, yet I believe he still has the speed and hax to take him down. Though of course I know it won't be that easy so I wish you the best of luck in countering my post

So good luck, and as always, may the best man win.

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Phew, God damn that took forever.

CV decided to be a dick today

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TFV, I am curious.

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T4V

this is going to be great.

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Oooh man hype. Definitely Tag for votes.

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#38 emperorthanos-  Moderator

@lowlaville: Haven't seen you around the Battle Forums in a while. You thinking of coming back because there is actually a CaV I'm desperate to do and you might be the perfect person to do it with.

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Also T4V this certainly seems interesting

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@god_vulcan: oh boy, great opener. I can't say for sure when i'll be able to get something up, i've got family stuff for most of today, but it should be up in the next couple of days.

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@god_vulcan: Have to say this, as a fellow Darsh fan, that opener was beyond exceptional.

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@emperorthanos: Hello! I've been more or less invested in the RPG forum since late Jan this year, which is probably why you don't see me around. Could do a cav yes. Which characters are we talking about?

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#47  Edited By emperorthanos-  Moderator

@lowlaville said:

@emperorthanos: Hello! I've been more or less invested in the RPG forum since late Jan this year, which is probably why you don't see me around. Could do a cav yes. Which characters are we talking about?

Naruto or Sasuke(me) vs New 52 Wonder Woman(you). I know you did something like this with princearagon but that never finished.

Edit: Could also use Toneri or Momoshiki since they aren't seen often in cavs like the other two.

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#48  Edited By Hegemon

@lowlaville said:

@emperorthanos: Hello! I've been more or less invested in the RPG forum since late Jan this year, which is probably why you don't see me around. Could do a cav yes. Which characters are we talking about?

Naruto or Sasuke(me) vs New 52 Wonder Woman(you). I know you did something like this with princearagon but that never finished.

Edit: Could also use Toneri or Momoshiki since they aren't seen often in cavs like the other two.

This sounds good. I'd be down for either Naruto or Sasuke. Feel free to set it up!

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