“Genjutsu and Mind Control aren't the same thing. A Genjutsu controls the opponent's chakra flow in their head to disrupt the five senses. It can be canceled by disrupting that chakra flow, either increasing one's power or having a partner agitate the chakra flow.”
Genjutsu since then has been changed, to the point where it can work on people without even having chakra. So it could still definitely affect Raizel without attacking his flow.
“Mind Control is as its name suggests, the literal control of the opponent's mind. It doesn't have the same weakness as Genjutsu where disrupting the internal energy can cancel its effects. In Raizel's case it is quite literally him forcing his opponent's mind to do and act upon his commands. In the Naruto world, this is more similar to Ino's, Mind Body Switch Technique.”
But Ino and her family are pretty damn fodder to people who are way below to Madara himself. But granted Raizel isn’t no Ino, so may I ask if Raizel’s Mind Control has weaknesses or has it ever been broken out of?
“And as we have seen, on a fellow Sharigan user and someone in similar power standing to Madara, Ino's Mind Body Switch Technique worked just fine on Obito, so Genjutsu resistance won't help against Mind Control”
Obito isn’t close to Madara at all, Obito was getting evened out by a lot of people, including Kakashi and Naruto, however Madara easily blitzed Naruto and I’m sure he would curb Kakashi too. In the scans you posted, Obito shook the jutsu off in two seconds, while Madara probably wouldn’t even let that happen tbh, even Kakuzu saw through her schemes.
“So while Genjutsu won't work on Raizel due to his high mental resistance, Madara's Genjutsu resistance will do little to help him against Raizel's Mind Control.”
You’re assuming this off because Obito failed to counter Ino’s jutsu, and yet this somehow correlates to Madara, who is superior to Obito in every single way? Not buying it, I need to see how good the Mind Control really is.
“As I've shown above, a full power Raizel took a country size explosion while severely wounded and survived. Heck, he has stomped characters who can make island sized explosion (see Noblesse Scaling section). Limbo might be able to buy Madara some time, but against Raizel's overwhelming power, it won't save him.”
I don’t believe your claims there helped that much, seemed a little speculative. Isn’t really relevant anyway, the Limbo Clone operates on blunt force attacks most of the time, Raizel surviving explosions is irrelevant.
“Soul Steal requires physical contact and that simple isn't happening for a number of reasons:
1 - Raizel has a barrier
2 - Raizel is almost always flying
3 - Raizel's telekinesis would have long crushed Madara into paste before he can make physical contact”
1- How strong is this barrier?
2- What does flying have to do with anything? Madara has already reached high enough heights with his Kurama summoning. Madara can jump pretty high as shown with his Limbo Clone too. What is flight going to do if he summons Kurama and sends a Bijuudama along Raziel's way?
3- The TK Raizel has doesn’t have enough feats to matter to Madara, it’s got great range, but overall power? Not enough.
“Deva Path is even easily to counter as Raizel's attack power can easily overpower all of the CT attacks Madara has pulled. Raizel can easily outright destroy them all.”
Eh, I can agree with this tbh.
“It wouldn't make sense for those to be hills because before that feat Ragus is stomping several characters who are absolutely mountain level fighters with ease.”
This has to do with the potency of Ragus powers, not the geographical location around them.
“For starters, his body was destroyed by his own meteor attack while Ohoki and Gaara both survived (Ohnoki at the epicenter of the meteor's impact).”
You can’t use this as an anti-feat as I have already explained, using weaker forms of Madara isn’t going to help against the case of an alive Madara with no restrictions and a much higher durability as I have provided. (Plus it just wouldn’t make sense for Onoki and Gaara to have higher durability than Madara lol)
“Then you have the Raikage breaking Madara's partial Susanoo. This pretty much solidifies that if Madara isn't within his Perfect Susanoo his durability is much lower.”
I already countered this. Alive Madara tanking dozens and dozens of mountain level physicals beasts strikes>>>>A weaker form not tanking a punch from a fodder strike. I shouldn’t really be saying this tbh.
“Raizel's telekinesis is without a doubt stronger than the Madara's Meteors and the Raikage's strike. Given the enormous range of Raizel's telekinesis there is no reason he can't rag doll Madara's body even if he is camping inside Perfect Susanoo.”
I can give you the latter part of that sentence, however, the best feats you posted for Raizel’s TK were around multi-mountain, Madara in his first appearance produced a multi-mountain attack casually, and he only go stronger from there. Madara seemed to be able to produce more than two judging from his attitude, he just went with two since that was probably enough to destroy the army.
“This is what gives Raizel the definite win here. Madara has no defense against a force he can't counter or escape. Even within Perfect Susanoo there is nothing stopping Raizel from crushing Madara with a Blood Vortex.
Raizel using the Blood Vortex to kill Maduke, a character strong enough to overpower an exhausted Raizel and full power Muzaka (remember Muzaka and Raizel's attack destroyed a country) more than shows that his Blood Vortex is packing the power to one shot the Uchiha.
Limbo, Rinnegan, Sharigan, Susanoo all mean nothing when a vortex is being spawned right on top of Madara that immediately crushes him into nothing.”
This is definitely quite the powerful hax, likely the strongest one you’ve presented so far, Madara possess Hashirama’s cells, meaning he can regen whenever he needs to, and if he is at death’s door, he could possibly pull out Izanagi and might come back.
“Something I didn't touch on before that is ironically extremely dangerous for Madara is Raizel's ability to manipulate his opponent's blood. When angered, Raizel destroys Ignes Kravei's eyes after he finds out she tortured his friends”
This isn’t as impressive as you want to make it if we think about it, he destroyed her eyes because he knew that she tortured his friends, of course he’s going to get pissed and caused him to go morals off/bloodlusted state. He’s not going to start out like that IC, he has no reason to do that to Madara.
And Madara has fought blind before, and he owned and still blitzed Naruto. So add 1 and 1 together this isn’t as impressive as you’re trying to make it seem, definitely not a game winner.
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