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#1 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha Romanoff - The Black Widow

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Repped by me

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Bruce Wayne - Batman

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Represented by @rbt

Conditions

  • Batman is limited to his suit he has no other gadgets
  • Black Widow is restricted to her batons
  • In character, both are willing to kill
  • Both are fully rested

Location

BvS Warehouse
BvS Warehouse

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#2 Edited by huthimamwa (2296 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll be watching this one. T4V please. Best of luck to the both of you.

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#3 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by JSDoctor (1352 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V please. This looks interesting.

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#5 Posted by RBT (26245 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by Kevd4wg (11702 posts) - - Show Bio

Tag

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#7 Posted by DeChefMan98 (1015 posts) - - Show Bio

Boi tag a playa

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#8 Edited by Amcu (15402 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V and after every post.

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#9 Posted by BladeOfFury (2901 posts) - - Show Bio

RBT in a CaV? Tag after every 2 posts please.

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#10 Posted by jayskee (4762 posts) - - Show Bio

Tv4

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#11 Posted by jayc1324 (26272 posts) - - Show Bio

Please finish this and t4v. Looks awesome

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#12 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: you wanna go first or me?

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#13 Posted by RBT (26245 posts) - - Show Bio
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#14 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by blackpantherisb (6620 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V

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#16 Posted by Kirkseven (2071 posts) - - Show Bio

this will be good.

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#18 Posted by TonyMartial (7839 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by TonyMartial (7839 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#22 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (14256 posts) - - Show Bio

Tag

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#25 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: I didn’t quit. I’d prefer if you deleted that comment as well

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#26 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha Romanoff - The Black Widow

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Trained in the red room young became a master spy blah blah became an Avengers blah blah. Nobody ever reads bios anyways. I know I don't at least.

Before starting I'm well aware of Bruce's advantages those being muscle and durability what I'm gonna argue is Nat can overcome those advantages via speed, skill and looks.

Speed

I think this is undeniably one of Nat's advantages. Jogging my memory I don't remember anything impressive from Bruce outside of aim dodging a shocked and scarred Police Officer with a shotgun. Nat has already aim dodged fire from far superior shooters like Bucky.
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and is able to throw a projectile at Bucky's arm before Bucky who has already aimed his gun can fire at her

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and Bucky is fast enough to keep pace with bullet timers like Black Panther in CQC. Her aim dodging really fast shooters don't stop here either
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Clint is fast enough to shoot 3 arrows in 1.9 seconds and has other feats like being able to shoot a Chitauri ship outta the sky & is fast enough to pressure bullet timers like Black Panther with his draw speed forcing him to catch his arrows instead of dodging them.
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Natasha again shows her speed being able to evade fire from several automated turrets surrounding her in a circle. These examples put her combat speed far above Bruce's. The same also applies for reaction speed
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she also has proven to be a clear-cut RPG timer and again aim dodging Bucky, before that evading fire from 5 trained shooters with automatics. With her superior speed, she'll land more hits on Bruce and be able to avoid his.

CQC

Natasha, unlike Bruce, also has fought established opponents and her feats against superhuman opponents like Proxima Midnight and Ultron drones far surpass Bruce's own showings, superhuman opponents(The Parademons)

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her own fodder wrecking feats in my opinion top Bruce's showing in the Warehouse here she takes out several trained S.H.I.E.L.D agents all armed surrounding her in a rapid and quick succession and she takes down
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despite being surprised and nigh naked she still proves to be more of a match for Klau's mercs who are all armed and inclosed her into a small bedroom.
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Widow's own performance against superhuman far surpasses Bruce's who struggled with a single parademon who whilst having impressive physicals could basically be classified as the term @the_magister_2 likes to call a "skillless brute". Proxima, however, was strong enough to no-sell jumping off buildings and shatter concrete with the edge of her spear matched or slightly surpassed Captain America's strength forcing Cap to struggle to block the force behind her spear & could remain untouched by Nat and Steve(2 fighters superior to Bruce in skill) attacking her from different angles and was treating Okoye like fodder. Nat in her solo managed to effectively parry her blows, hold her own for a respectable amount of time, & disarm with her batons as well. Proxima's stats and skill far surpass Bruce's own yet nat was able to contend with her for a respectable amount of time.

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Another showing of her being able to outperform a physically stronger opponent than Bruce was Crossbones who with his own arm was strong enough to pressure Cap enough to make him grit his teeth and although I'm fairly certain the voters are already aware of this but just as a reminder Cap's stats are well above Bruce's by this point

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and his own skill rivals Bruce as well he was able to tag Captain America in a one on one landing 2 blows and evading his punch for comparison this is what happened to other agents when they attacked Cap

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when Crossbones ambushed Widow--he had the element of surprise--he quickly got outskilled. Nat landed numerous blows on her and even managed to escape his grip on her--the same arm that proved to be a match for Steve's stats--and would've dispatched him with her Widow's sting had it not been for his newly acquired pain tolerance

Conclusion

Though I'm aware I missed some categories for Nat I wanted to first focus on her clear-cut advantages and providing evidence for her being able to outperform a physically superior like Bruce. Next post expect to see how Nat uses these advantages to take down Bruce.

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#27 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Edited by FaradaySloth (6407 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V, thought this wouldn't be fair but KoL made a great opening post.

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#30 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by TonyMartial (7839 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh you actually posted? How did I not see this, great opener.

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#32 Posted by deactivated-5bf470b432518 (5802 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V and after every post.

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#33 Posted by Hiddenstorm (240 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha high dif

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#34 Posted by Kevd4wg (11702 posts) - - Show Bio

@hiddenstorm said:

Natasha high dif

I'm assuming you didn't know since you're relatively new, but this is a CaV, not a normal thread. In CaVs you don't post a comment about who you think would win since the two debaters are debating it(in this case RBT and kingoflatveria). If you would liked to be tagged at the end of the debate so you can vote at the end of the CaV you can say "t4v".

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#36 Posted by Kirkseven (2071 posts) - - Show Bio

looking good so far.

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#37 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt. Friendly bump not rushing you

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#38 Posted by RBT (26245 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatveria: I'll get my post up by end of next week. A bit swamped right now.

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#39 Posted by santinia1 (15 posts) - - Show Bio

t4v

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#40 Posted by Anthp3000 (62 posts) - - Show Bio

You already know...

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#42 Posted by arctika (1253 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool CAV

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#43 Edited by GateOfBabylon (3283 posts) - - Show Bio

Damn, T4V please.

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#44 Posted by Michaelbn (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V but seriously is this necessary?

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#45 Posted by _KingofLatveria (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V but seriously is this necessary?

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#46 Posted by Michaelbn (1861 posts) - - Show Bio

@_kingoflatveria:

This is a mismatch since everyone back Nat because of scarjo "/ "/ ;/ :/

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#47 Posted by TonyMartial (7839 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#48 Edited by Amcu (15402 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by ArkhamAsylum3 (2327 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V.

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#50 Posted by Kirkseven (2071 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V.

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