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BATTLE OF THE BLUE GOLIATHS

A-Bomb (Major_Hellstrom) vs Jinbe (Defiant-Will)
A-Bomb (Major_Hellstrom) vs Jinbe (Defiant-Will)

RULES

  • In Character, but Serious
  • Fight to K.O. or Death
  • Both Characters in their Unamped Prime
  • Fighters Start 20 Feet Apart

SETTING

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#2 Posted by Defiant_Will (1206 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

A-Bomb in a CaV? T4V

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#4 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

@defiant_will: Why did you post two pics of the same battlefield?

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#5 Posted by Defiant_Will (1206 posts) - - Show Bio

@major_hellstrom:

JINBE | THE FISHMAN

"There's no way a man who intends to join the crew of the future Pirate King will cower to a mere Yonkou!"

A member of the Fishman species (specifically a whale shark Fishman), Jinbe was initially introduced as a member of the Shicibukai, but would later go on to renounce his title and side with Whitebeard and Luffy during the Battle of Marineford, as well as during the Fishman Island and Whole Cake Island arcs. Jinbe has, throughout his life, been a soldier, a pirate captain as well as Shicibukai, and is widely respected for his honorable and fair nature towards both Fishmen and humans. He is a master of Fishman Karate, having earned a black belt in it as a child.

FISHMAN KARATE

Jinbe's greatest asset in this fight is his Fishman Karate, a trademark martial art of his species. Fishman Karate is predicated around sending shockwaves through water, ranging from water vapor to the water within one's body. Naturally these attacks bypass conventional durability, as can be seen below where he circumvents Luffy's insane blunt force durability and damages him internally.

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Despite being an internal based attack, Jinbe's strikes have still consistently knocked opponents several feet away. Think about that for a second: Jinbe's internal attacks are so potent that they can physically move his opponent's entire body a set distance away. What makes this impressive is that the internal shockwave Jinbe creates would have to be very powerful in order to move one's whole body from the inside.

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Jinbe can even use water to enhance his strikes, as seen when his strike creates such a powerful shockwave that the water travels through Wadatsumi's gargantuan body and out the other side, deflating him in the process.

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PHYSICALS

Jinbe isn't just limited to internal attacks, however. Jinbe can deal out devastating physical strikes, as seen when he devastated Gecko Moriah with one punch. This doubles as a combat speed feat as Jinbe was able to blitz Gecko Moriah with relative ease.

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And bare in mind, Gecko Moriah is no slouch when it comes to durability or reaction speed.

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  • Scan 1: Gecko Moriah tanks a blow from Shadow Luffy
  • Scan 2: Gecko Moriah casually reacts to a kick from an angry Sanji (BoS Sanji was moving FTE)

Moving on, Jinbe has blocked attacks from Gear Second Luffy, which doubles as a durability feat considering that a casual punch (which are usually less powerful than kicks) from Gear Second Luffy destroyed a Pacifista.

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INITIAL THOUGHTS

Based on what I have presented, Jinbe should take this fight solidly. His Fishman Karate is a very powerful tool in his arsenal, allowing him to bypass A-Bomb's durability while providing Jinbe with the range and AoE to keep A-Bomb at bay and prevent him from closing the distance. Unless A-Bomb has insane amounts of internal durability, A-Bomb will quite literally be one shotted by Jinbe. Add to that Jinbe's respectable physicals and Jinbe should take this fight solidly.

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#6 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (18022 posts) - - Show Bio

@defiant_will: For my opener, I'm just going to cut directly to the debate.

A-Bomb

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Bio

Here Rick\A-Bomb explains his origins and powers

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Offense

You really didn't give me much of anything to go off on in terms of Jinbe's durability asides from the one feat at the end of your post which doesn't really mean much to me because I don't know what a "Pacifista" even is. But whatever the case, if Jinbe aims to be able to tank attacks from A-Bomb he would have to be incredibly durable. For just a taste of A-Bomb's power, here is a feat of his that requires no scaling or knowledge of the Marvel universe, in these scans Rick manages to take down a massive sea creature in a few blows.

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In another display of power, he is able to knock around two powerful "fish creatures"

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Those fish creatures also turn out to be She Hulk and Lyra, two powerful mid tiers in the Hulk family

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A-Bomb in another showing is able to break Doc Green's nose in one swing

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Another showing against Bruce, this time against Bruce in a mech suit. Here he takes apart Bruce Banner's much in a few blows

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That suit in the same issue stopped a punch and drew blood from Red Hulk

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And speaking of Red Hulk, we move onto perhaps Rick's most famous showing, going toe to toe against Red Hulk

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What makes the above scan better in that the page right after shows A-Bomb knocking Red Hulk away, implying that he won that particular clash of strength (not saying Rick is stronger than Red Hulk)

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These feats alone should show that A-Bomb is a physical force to be reckoned with, but even if Jinbe somehow has the feats to show that he can tank a beating from A-Bomb, he would also need piercing resistance feats as A-Bomb can use his teeth and claws in battle as well, as he does in his second bout against Red Hulk

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What makes the above feat even more impressive is that, despite the Red Hulk's healing factor, those wounds stayed with him throughout the issue (which lasted at least few hours as it started in dusk and ended during the night).

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As for an idea of how resistant Red Hulk is to piercing, here he is no selling turret fire point blank

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And just to show Rick using his claws again for consistency, here he is slashing at Red Hulk again.

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Defense

From what I can see in your post, Jinbe seems to use shockwave or vibration based offense, which helps him "bypass" conventional durability. I'll get to counter that later on of course, but first, let's take a moment to look at A-Bomb's more conventional durability feats, just to get an idea of what you are dealing with here.

In the scan below he gets whacked across a city by a massive sea creature (the same own he takes down in a few blows later).

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Now that we have that out of the way, let's move onto A-Bom's feats against shockwaves, since he actually has feats against that.

First, we have this feat against Doc Green, where A-Bomb's clash with Doc shakes the entire area, yet both men remain standing

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Now, you might be thinking that this above feat isn't enough to show that he can take what Jinbe has to offer, or that "the shockwaves didn't go through A-Abomb's body" or something of that nature. But unluckily for you A-Bomb has a showing of taking a beating from the Red Hulk which caused a magnitude 9.0 earthquake to form below them.

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And since Red Hulk was pounding directly on A-Bomb's face, it means that the impact of his hits must have traveled through A-Bomb internally and into the ground below. A-Bomb was also able to keep fighting even after this attack.

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And just to put the icing on the cake, let's discuss A-Bomb's camouflage ability which can be used offensively and defensively. It makes him completely invisible to the eye.

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Rick can use this ability to get the jump on his opponents for offense

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Or disappear in the middle of battle for defense

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Conclusion

I don't see any reason why Rick doesn't just team Jinbe apart (asides from morals that is). He seemingly has every physical advantage, asides from speed, and in a brick battle physicals is all that matters. Not only that but Rick possess abilities such as claws, camouflage and razor sharp teeth that Jinbe does not have answers to. Also, I find the idea that Jinbe can keep A-Bomb from closing the distance to be unreasonable, as the distance is only 20 feet and A-Bomb's leaping ability is superb

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#7 Posted by Toratorn (7520 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting to see A-Bomb of all people being used in CaV. T4V.

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#8 Posted by Rac95 (5010 posts) - - Show Bio

T4V and after each post please