Cartoon Heroes vs Justice League

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Round 1:

• Cartoon characters are composite modern versions. They get all base feats from comics, cartoons, video games, etc. He Man, She Ra, Snake Eyes and Sonic only get feats from the 2000s onward.
• DC Team is New 52 and Rebirth Versions
• No Toon Force
• No Prior Knowledge or prep
• In Character
• Win by Any Means
• No Alien X or Super Sonic
• No Telepathy

Round 2:

• Cartoon characters are full composite versions. They get all base feats from comics, cartoons, video games, etc.
• DC Team is composite Post Crisis/ New 52/ Rebirth Versions
• Everything else is the same as round 1

Who Wins?

Martian Manhunter solos

@americanspeeddemon: you might might need to provide some feats for the cartoon team

I don’t know enough about a lot of the cartoon team to say... but Aang and Korra seem horribly out of place in battle with Superman, MMH, Flash, etc.

@hellespont: To be fair there are weaker Justice League members too.

@dondave: MMH can solo even without TP? @smxlr8: I can drop some feats tomorrow

Rebirth versions make this closer but the Cartoon Team has too many weak links to stay in the game here.

JL wins.

@americanspeeddemon: could help with that if you want ,I know the cartoon well the animated versions anyway

Lol idk about you guys but the He-Man in the OP looks like hes about to solo the f**k outta both teams and walk into the Godzilla thread under this one looking for problems

@smxlr8: if you want.

@americanspeeddemon: Yes, he can turn invisible and kill each of them on his own.

can go either way

They could only beat Batman.

JL

Pretty sure MMH can solo.

Characters like Snake Eyes, Aang and Korra are horribly out of place here.

This seems like spite against JL based on Cartoon characters I know.

He-man was pre Coie Superman level (bronze age not Silver) and would stomp nu52/rebirth

She-Ra is every bit his female counterpart. Deflects blastsnwith her sword as easily as WE does with her bracelets. He sword IIRC could transform into other weapons as needed.

Sonic is every bit as fast as Flash, so probably a stalemate.

Captain Planet is stronger and gaster than MMH. He also has mental abilities but the real problem is is complete control of the elements (including fire). It might only be a psychological weakness. Ow but MMH still has it so looses.

GL vs Ben 10 is the only fight I see JL having a clear win in. Hal has more peak showings than Tenison.

Aang should beat all versions of Tornado except tonado champion (released air elemental) who has only appeared a few times

Korra should take Arthur

Snake eyes and Batman can go either way

@wrathofthebrad: @wollfmyth209: Aang Korra and Snake Eyes are meant to be challenges against people like Red Tornado, Aquaman and Batman. I balanced the team's to have 5 high tiers, 2 mid tiers and a street level character.

@beatboks1: TBF He Man was beaten fairly easily by pre crisis Superman I think he was like two shotted he was able to damage him but that was due to his magic sword. You don't think aliens like Feedback with Universal energy manipulation would be enough to challenge green lantern?

@americanspeeddemon:

He-man had 4 crossovers with Superman and was his equal physically on panel for the whole issues of a couple. Superman was only able to harm He-man on eternia in castle greyskull without his sword of power as I recall. Skellitor had teicked Superman into seeing him as a threat so that he could take the sword of greyskull from him

He-man with his full power.

The battle continued and skellitor got the sword, He-man weakened and then Supes was able to take him down.

jl

@americanspeeddemon:

Looks like I only half remembered it. Skellitor had managed to split the sword of greyskull in half. He had half and so did He-man. So the He-man Superman fought was at half power

@beatboks1: wasn't he man oneshotted on the second page of their fight? Even if he was only at half power He Man should have done better. I don't think he has any feats actually putting him on pre crisis level.

@americanspeeddemon:

He wasnt one shotted there were a couple of blows. It's also not one or two shotting when the fight went a page before. We clearly see on the first page that He-man was close to equal to BA supes, able to man handle him and toss him. Half Power He-man was able to give supes a fight and throw off his attacks before he was downed. The other times they crossed over it was much more even.

I never said he would beat pre coie Supes just that he was his level. Bronze age Superman while vastly weaker than SA is considerably stronger than nu52/rebirth. Composite He-man would take modern Supes based on all showings. Casual planet mover and all. Thats excluding the fact that Supes has zero defense against the sword of greyskull and its magic.

JL Kills

No Alien X but full composite no problem Atomic-X solo stomps loop hole found

Flash solos.

Cartoon team . Alien X and he man are strong(batman still solo with prep ,lol) character

He-Man mvp he's a team buster, he could probably take up to three league members at once and still win.

MMH solos

Ben solos. The Omnitrix is too haxy and Alien X is too much for them.

JL stomps

JL stomps

How? None of them have the hax or stats to contend with Ben even without Alien X.

Also Sonic should win too if Archie is included.

Maybe if you were wanking then your statement would be true. Ben is fodder here, He-Man is a bigger threat

So a Multiversal+ to Low Complex Multiversal character is fodder? Nice. Even if you downplayed Alien X to Universal+ that's still far higher than the Justice League and he outhaxes all of them. You are massively downplaying Ben mate.

You already said "even without Alien X" who is banned in this thread's rules. Pay attention and keep up with the conversation. Now let's try this again.

It doesn't matter if Alien X is included or not. Ben is far too versatile and the Omnitrix has many failsafes that none of the members of the league can get around. Clockwork can just haxstomp them all to death, Chromastone can redirect all of their energy back at each other, Feedback can counter anything they can throw at him, and Atomic-X, while nowhere near as strong as Alien X, could still overpower the league, and Brainstorm is literally Batman with prep time, but on massive steroids. It can think at speeds much faster than what the league can, and would be realistically octillions of times more intelligent than even Batman himself. It could easily figure out Superman's weakness to Kryptonite or take off Green Lantern's ring, and just flat out overpower Batman.

Therefore, as I said before, the Omnitrix is far too haxy for the League to do anything, and there are many aliens besides Alien X that can simply outstat them.

Come on dude, without Alien X, Ben is fodder. Clockwork got his arm broken by Captain Nemesis, he gets oneshotted long before he reacts. Chromostone is barely mid tier and gets oneshotted by anything that isn't an energy attack or Batman. Feedback is also oneshotted and blitzed. Atomix is at best a C level villian for Aquaman and gets oneshotted by any high tier worth their salt, including Aquaman himself. Brainstorm is roughly Spider-Man level and at best can secure a win over Batman but has no business fighting anyone else.

You see, it's not that I'm underestimating or downplaying Ben 10. It's just that this is the Justice League. And Ben 10 simply isn't on their level. Green Lantern can literally play pool with moons and has star level feats. Superman can destroy moons and planets with his strength and tank just about everything. Wonder Woman has nigh-indestructible gear that can cut through anything, hold anything, block anything, etc. And Aquaman can lift the mass of a freaking continent in his own series. Therefore, most of Ben's aliens would be killed simply by the force of Aquaman clapping his hands together like Hulk.

Closest thing to being a threat to this level of power is Way Big, and that's because he can destroy planets with his energy blasts. That still makes him fodder to Green Lantern or other top level JL members.

Yeah cool, there is this thing called "hax", and the Omnitrix's hax is something the league is not prepared to deal with. It would be like the league trying to remove The Omega Effect from Darkseid, which they can't do.

@manofmanynames2: You need to activate "hax" first, and the league oneshots long before. Ben is not a "hax" spamming character to begin with. And the Omega Effect barely ever appears, 9/10 times it's just a really strong energy beam.

Clockwork is the only character with such "hax" that the league might actually be worried, and again he gets blitzed first. Let's turn it around. What is Ben's answer to the Justice League's hax? If Martian Manhunter decided to mentally shut Ben's mind down, what can he possibly do?

The Omnitrix is consistently aware of all surrounding threats and can quite literally rewrite the rules of space and time to keep it's user safe. It's proven that it's speed is Immeasurable and it would take massive amps for someone like even the Flash to reach those levels of speed, and I doubt Ben would just let Barry do that. None of the league's members have the counter hax to outhax the Omnitrix.

How can you blitz someone who can just make it so you were never born? Someone who can reverse a scale of events on the level of Crisis on Infinite Earths are far more powerful than anything the league can handle. Only someone like Dr. Fate is capable of such feats, and none of the members shown here are even remotely as strong as him, and Dr. Fate is arguably even as strong as Ben at his strongest.

The Omnitrix has many counters against mind control, Martian Manhunter has also been shown to be overwhelmed with complex minds before, and even if Ben did not have access to Alien X, Bellicus and Serena still exist within his subconscious, and Manhunter would be more than overwhelmed, and that's not even including the immense level of power within the Omnitrix, which is something stronger than people who have fodderized Manhunter.

Ultimately, the league jobs too much and are consistently fodder, they don't have the hax or firepower to take down Ben or get the Omnitrix away from him. And remember, we still have He-Man and Archie Sonic fighting too, who are characters who have the firepower needed to kill the league. He-Man scales to Pre-Crisis characters and Archie Sonic is arguably stronger than Alien X.