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#1 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

Carol Danvers

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Rules

  • In character
  • No prep
  • Win by tagging the people in the gauntlet once before they tag Carol 10 times. Must tag the character in the gauntlet with physical attacks and cannot stun another character with energy attacks or by throwing an object. For the purposes of this thread being tagged is defined by punching, kicking, tackling, or head butting. The tag doesn't have to damage someone to count obviously.
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  • If you feel the gauntlet is out of order feel free to rearrange it. There was a lot of stuff I wasn't sure about.

Location

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  • Begin 50 feet apart
  • Unpopulated
  • Fight takes place here:
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Gauntlet

  1. Juggernaut
  2. Thing
  3. Daredevil
  4. Namor
  5. Beast
  6. Iron Man
  7. Nightcrawler
  8. Spider-Man
  9. Speed Demon
  10. Quicksilver

How far does she make it?

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#2 Edited by King-Ragnar (3226 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Carol that slow in terms of combat speed?

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#3 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

Is Carol that slow in terms of combat speed?

Well we'll see how this turns out. I am curious if she is a legitimate speedster. I don't see how this gauntlet suggests she is slow though. Quicksilver is one of the fastest characters on 616 marvel earth.

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#4 Posted by King-Ragnar (3226 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: 9 out of the 10 people In the gauntlet are street levelers. That's suggesting her speed inept or if she has Thor like speed.

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#5 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23875 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at MCU Thor.

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#6 Posted by CyberpunkCop (1950 posts) - - Show Bio

9 most likely

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#7 Edited by Noone1996 (10778 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Do the characters know that they only need to tag her 10 times and that they cannot be hit? I think that makes a huge difference. A lot of characters do not actively avoid being tagged if they know they can tank the hit.

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#8 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Do the characters know that they only need to tag her 10 times and that they cannot be hit? I think that makes a huge difference. A lot of characters do not actively avoid being tagged if they know they can tank the hit.

They know they have to tag her 10 times. They can still be hit. Carol just has to tag them once.

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#9 Posted by EcstaticGrace (6898 posts) - - Show Bio

Might stop at 9 or 10. Potentially can clear with energy attacks though.

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#10 Posted by TonyMartial (7869 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at DCEU Superman

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#11 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

Might stop at 9 or 10. Potentially can clear with energy attacks though.

Those aren't allowed.

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#13 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23875 posts) - - Show Bio

@widowbite123: MCU Thor is too fast. He took the full force of a star.

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#14 Posted by Widowbite123 (88 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Strikes Thanos knocking him out (Basically stated that he was weakened) and sends sentry flying with a punch that's both above anything MCU Thor has done

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#16 Posted by Kevd4wg (11728 posts) - - Show Bio

She isn't touching 10 for sure, Not sure about 6-9 though. Also I thought Tony was like lightning speed?

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#17 Edited by Widowbite123 (88 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: ???????????

If you're talking about speed then :

Travels 500 miles in about 5 minutes,was stated be Mach 246+ and she could blitz gamora someone who could block a attack form spectrum

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#18 Posted by Supermanthor (10313 posts) - - Show Bio

10

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#19 Posted by cromulor (1837 posts) - - Show Bio

stop at 10

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#20 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

@widowbite123: @anthp2000: Stop derailing this thread.

@kevd4wg said:

She isn't touching 10 for sure, Not sure about 6-9 though. Also I thought Tony was like lightning speed?

I don't think iron man is that fast. The whole reason he upgraded to extremis was because he couldn't deal with Mallens speed. When Mallen fled the scene during his first fight with iron man he was clocked at 300MPH. Tony did stomp him when he upgraded to extremis but I don't think his current/later armors are as fast as extremis.

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#21 Posted by Kevd4wg (11728 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I'm not an Iron Man expert so fair enough(I've also seen street levelers like Taskmaster have no trouble with his speed), but I've seen @noone1996 and @krleavenger post some lightning speed feats for him as well

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#22 Posted by Supermanthor (10313 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by Noone1996 (10778 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 6 if Iron Man is aware of what is happening. He can avoid her long enough to win under these stipulations with knowledge.

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#24 Posted by Noone1996 (10778 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Mallen's travel speed has nothing to do with his combat/reflex speed. Besides, I'm pretty sure he ran from Houston to Washington D.C. in less than a day. He even stopped to talk to that girl for a couple minutes too, so I highly doubt 300 mph is his max speed.

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#25 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (5507 posts) - - Show Bio
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#26 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (5507 posts) - - Show Bio

putting quicksilver here should be considered spite anyway.

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#27 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Mallen's travel speed has nothing to do with his combat/reflex speed. Besides, I'm pretty sure he ran from Houston to Washington D.C. in less than a day. He even stopped to talk to that girl for a couple minutes too, so I highly doubt 300 mph is his max speed.

According to google it takes about 21 hours to drive from houston to Washington. I assume it would be quicker if Mallen didn't have to run on the road and didn't have to deal with traffic and stuff (also the max speed of the average car is 200MPH and you probably would be limited to the speed limit). While I get there is a difference between being fast and running fast I doubt Mallen punches and kicks thousands of times faster than his running speed. I don't think Mallen can fight at hypersonic speeds.

I mean to be clear running 300 MPH is still above street level IMO. I just don't think iron mans reflexes are as fast as lightning which was the initial claim.

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#28 Posted by RampageTheFirst (6625 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at either 9 or 10.

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#29 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4012 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 10 , Namor and especially Tony could be problematic.

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#30 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 10 , Namor and especially Tony could be problematic.

In combat speed?

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#31 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4012 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Yes , Namor has Mach 5 + reaction/combat speed which is pretty impressive , he even tagged Speed Demon (after getting a few hits) , which makes me say that Carol might have some problem with Namor.Same goes for Tony.

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#32 Posted by XLR87T3 (9441 posts) - - Show Bio

8 or 9. Spider-Man should be faster than her

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#33 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Yes , Namor has Mach 5 + reaction/combat speed which is pretty impressive , he even tagged Speed Demon (after getting a few hits) , which makes me say that Carol might have some problem with Namor.Same goes for Tony.

You...Don't think spider-man will be problematic?

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#34 Posted by EcstaticGrace (6898 posts) - - Show Bio

Stark and Namor aren't getting 10 hits before Carol gets 1.

Pretty sure she's had no problem tagging spidey before while being depowered nonetheless too.

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#35 Posted by Madscientist224 (1237 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears easily.

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#36 Posted by supremthor69 (470 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 6 if Iron Man is aware of what is happening. He can avoid her long enough to win under these stipulations with knowledge.

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#37 Posted by Gaoron (7665 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: MCU Thor's supersonic reactions are nothing to brag about compared to comic mid tiers tbh.

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#38 Posted by The_Red_Devil (4012 posts) - - Show Bio
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@the_red_devil said:

@jashro44: Yes , Namor has Mach 5 + reaction/combat speed which is pretty impressive , he even tagged Speed Demon (after getting a few hits) , which makes me say that Carol might have some problem with Namor.Same goes for Tony.

You...Don't think spider-man will be problematic?

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Yeah , he will , but both Tony and Namor are more aggressive fighters than him.

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#39 Posted by jay_z94 (7802 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: What are Speed Demon’s speed feats? Is he quite a bit faster than Spider-Man?

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#41 Posted by WollfMyth209 (15584 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't Spiderman note she's faster than him, already?

Anyways, stops at 9 or 10.

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#42 Posted by The_living_tribunal_24 (5507 posts) - - Show Bio

Might stop at 9 or 10. Potentially can clear with energy attacks though.

AOE energy attacks, but this is to test combat speed so we wouldnt use such attack.

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#43 Edited by Supermanthor (10313 posts) - - Show Bio
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IN TERMS OF OVERALL SPEED MARVEL THINKS SHE IS THEIR TENTH FASTEST HEROE

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#44 Posted by Kevd4wg (11728 posts) - - Show Bio

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IN TERMS OF OVERALL SPEED MARVEL THINKS SHE IS THEIR TENTH FASTEST HEROE

That list is mostly based off travel speed and pretty unreliable

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#45 Posted by Supermanthor (10313 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg said:
@supermanthor said:
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IN TERMS OF OVERALL SPEED MARVEL THINKS SHE IS THEIR TENTH FASTEST HEROE

That list is mostly based off travel speed and pretty unreliable

THATS WHY I SAID OVERALL SPEED AND AS FOR UNRELIABLE YEAH I ALREADY KNOW LOL

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#46 Posted by Noone1996 (10778 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: I mean he was a blur on Iron Man's pre-Extremis targeting computer and he was capable of catching a punch from Extremis Iron Man, so I highly doubt his combat speed is only in the high hundreds of mph.

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#47 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

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@jashro44: What are Speed Demon’s speed feats? Is he quite a bit faster than Spider-Man?

Yes. He's created tornadeos with his speed, thrown hundreds of punches in a fraction of a second, etc. In his first appearance Spider-man tried to web him and restrain him but speed demon was fast enough to run while carrying him.

@jashro44: I mean he was a blur on Iron Man's pre-Extremis targeting computer and he was capable of catching a punch from Extremis Iron Man, so I highly doubt his combat speed is only in the high hundreds of mph.

Before we continue do you believe iron man has hypersonic reflexes?

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#48 Posted by Floopay (10861 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:
@king-ragnar said:

Is Carol that slow in terms of combat speed?

Well we'll see how this turns out. I am curious if she is a legitimate speedster. I don't see how this gauntlet suggests she is slow though. Quicksilver is one of the fastest characters on 616 marvel earth.

I am relatively certain there are at least 2 or 3 instances of her out-reacting Spiderman and grabbing/tagging him with ease.

I also know she has blitzed Gamora, Hulk, and Grey Gargoyle in the past.

I also think there are two instances of Wonder Man being mind controlled and bloodlusted against her. And I believe in the first instance (I wanna say it was Ultron? I remember it was classic era) she was holding bag significantly because she didn't want to hurt him, as they were dating off/on at the time. Yet she was having only mid-difficulty outpacing and reacting to him. Eventually she went all out and stomped him IIRC.

However, she's also kind of a damage soak.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#49 Posted by Noone1996 (10778 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Of course. You think he's only got supersonic reactions? That's preposterous. He's been catching missiles and bullet timing since his classic days.

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#50 Posted by jashro44 (51795 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Of course. You think he's only got supersonic reactions? That's preposterous. He's been catching missiles and bullet timing since his classic days.

So have street levelers. Do you think they have hyper sonic reactions?