Captain Titus (Warhammer 40K) vs Darth Vader (Star Wars)

Disney Canon Vader, fight takes place in a run down factory, assume Titus' ability to resist the Warp translates into him being able to resist the Force. Captain Titus carries an Iron Halo, a power sword, and a bolt pistol.

Callouts @wut@killerwasp@decaf_wizard

Vader should win even if it takes him time to bust down an Iron Halo

@decaf_wizard said:

@decaf_wizard: Can Canon Vader keep up with a space marine? I didn't watch Rebels so just curious.

Pretty much every version of Vader is an extremely casual bullet timer

@decaf_wizard: Space marines are pretty much the same though, except they can smack bolt rounds out of the air and react to plasma shots. And since we're going with Titus being resistant to the force I don't see how Vader beats him with the addition of an iron halo. Unless he has some REALLY crazy feat?

@fullmetalemprah: Not to the extent that vader does. Space marines HAVE deflected bolt rounds but it takes less than several to overwhelm their reactions. Most of the time they get tagged by bolt rounds. Vader can push him around with TK, take his weapons etc.

@killerwasp: long time no see my man......

@sirfizzwhizz: come on in here and drop some bombs bro.....

@jirou: I mean, I'm not gonna say Titus is one of the higher level marines that would consider dodging bolt rounds cakewalk, but he is a captain so I figured he'd be somewhere in the middle. Also bolt rounds are specifically noted to be bad against power armor unless it's something like Kraken bolts, so I always figured most marines let the rounds hit them since they know their armor can take it. That's head canon though(for the most part, I know some actually do that).

For the force honestly I can't remember, was Titus ever confirmed a true blank or not? Because if he was under the context of this fight the advantages of being should carry over.

@cosmicallyaware1 said:

Yeah I've been on here, WHERE HAVE U BEEN!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Iron Halo will tank most of what Vader throws. This is canon Vader? He had issues with enhance humans that Titus lol stomps in terms of stats and skill. I can easily see Titus winning with Iron Halo

How does Titus not get immediately ragdolled and rekt by the Force?

@killerwasp: I've been back for a bit now....................was on sabbatical for quite a bit thee lol....................

@decaf_wizard:

Stated in OP that Force equals Warp which the Iron Halo negates in general and Titus has major resistance too. So he should win.

Iron Halo's do not "negate" warp energy. Iron Halo's turn kinetic energy into harmless photons with a conversion field last I checked. And they have a limit on how much they can take. They shouldn't be able to stop Vader from directly influencing Titus with the force, just block kenetic force blast attacks

What feats does Titus have of negating telekinetic warp powers?

@decaf_wizard: bullshit. Its work against all warp base attacks in all the games, including telepathy attacks, and in novels defended against warp attacks and warp powered blades. So....

Also Titus resisted the TK attack of the Chaos Lord in game trying to pin the Marines.

Yea thats not negating. Thats blocking/resisting. You can't possibly tell me that if Ahriman or somebody tried to TP a Space Marine captain it wouldn't work because of an iron goddam halo. Warp attacks are more often than not at least some elements physical. Like throwing lightning and fire. A conversion field will block that. And I shouldn't even have to explain why a conversion field blocks blades to you. An example of Iron Halo's failing to block something more indirect is Necron Phase weapons. The weapon is phased out of reality and not technically "physical" in the literal sense, so they cannot block it. Same with directly grasping onto Titus with the force. Its not anything physical that is coming at the field, so it shouldn't be able to bloc it

Iron Halo's working on telepathy is patently absurd and if it exists it only exits because either the gear itself was a relic quality piece or through a weird mechanic of the tabletop game. What an Iron Halo does has been spelled out numerous times in the lore and "blocks telepathic attacks" is not part of that

@decaf_wizard: I can state as such. As it does in table top rules, RPG rules, and video games rules.

You also have zero grounds to argue what a make believe Conversion Field can or cannot block. Its a unique energy field. Not just kinetic energy lmao. Plasma and lightning are not kinetic lol. Nor is warp fire.

Also Ahriman > Sidious or Yoda. So your comparison sucks.

@paragonnate: *looks at Fizz and Decaf debating* I'm good. XD They got this. One way or the other.

lol

@decaf_wizard: Look this is what a Conversion Field is.

• Stated in first scan that the Conversion field is poorly understood tech. No proof what it can or not protect against.
• Stated in same scan under that the conversion field protects against PHYSICAL AND PSYCHIC attacks. Stated plain as freaking day.
• Stated in last part of the same scan that the Iron Halo can tank a Bunker busting blow and leave the wearer fine.

As per OP, Force = Warp. So in this scenario the Iron Halo is MORE than enough to stop dead canon Vader mate.

@killerwasp: @jirou: You all think Vader can win this? Bring it. I already shown as per OP Vader is not getting past the Iron Halo without being dealt in possibly. Vader can possibly win, but the whole TK factor goes out the window.

Vader gets shot in the head or loses another arm

@sirfizzwhizz: His lightsaber is cutting Titus in half. :)

Jokes on you, Titus has the High Ground bonus effect. Codex Astartes teaches you all about the high ground.

Titus and it might not be close.

@sirfizzwhizz: titus isn't obi wan, obi would stomp titus in a heart beat :D

Negative.

Titus has the HIGHER Ground.

@sirfizzwhizz: You don't understand, OBI WAN IS THE HIGH GROUND!

@sirfizzwhizz: You know what SFW, I'm sick of this garbage half assed argument you're giving to Captain Titus, that's it I challenge you to a

Titus.

@killerwasp: You never finished our last duel heheheh

@sirfizzwhizz: Yeah you took over a month, blow me. Ill finish that as well if you wanna create this one. Ill prolly have the other one done by meh Wednesday at the latest

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*Shrug* It's canon Vader. What do you expect?

Considering the fact that Canon Vader does things like takes on battalions with air and armor support and crushes AT-ATs with the Force, and has the skill to best Jedi Masters in a duel, I expected a fight.

Canon Vader is far from weak and I'm sick of people acting like he is.

@paragonnate: Well, you probably underestimated Warhammer then.

No, more like you're vastly underestimating Vader. There are certainly people in 40K capable of duplicating Vader's showings, but they aren't the 'average', no matter what 40K fanboys claim.

@paragonnate: That may be your personal stance, but it doesn't seem like anybody's willing to champion your cause, no matter how often you bump it.

@killbilly: Did you even read the thread? There's as many Vader supporters as there are Titus supporters, it's just that neither side seems willing to debate the other at the moment. So yes, there's plenty of people who think Vader would win Killer and Fizz are even talking about starting a CaV over it. And no, it's not just my 'personal stance' it's a damned fact that Vader is above average even by 40K standards. The vast majority of people of every faction in the game are incapable of doing the things Vader has done and those that can are few and far between.

@paragonnate: I'm aware there are Vader supporters, I'm explaining to you that, as you yourself admitted, neither side seems willing to debate the other at the moment so there's no point in continuously bumping it.

Vader

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@decaf_wizard: So, any comment now on the Iron Halo resisting psy attacks as it is stated to do so? Is that part cleared up now?

Huh, why don't you give captain titus a real challenge?

@merulezall: What do you mean?

Canon Vader should win now

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