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#1 Posted by liquade (145 posts) - - Show Bio

the both are really stronge and control lightning who whould win?

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#2 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7554 posts) - - Show Bio

oh man you beat me to making this thread and i don't know much about captain mavrel but i guess i can try to start this thread thor wins

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#3 Posted by Psyker star (3506 posts) - - Show Bio

can Thor beat Captain Marvel?!!?

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#4 Posted by Dark_Slayor (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Im going to go with Marvel. Just because I think Supes>Marvel(Not by much though), Supes>Hulk, and Hulk>Thor. 
 
My Logic is flawed......

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#5 Posted by Jx4gz (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@Psyker star said:
" can Thor beat Captain Marvel?!!? "
no
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#6 Posted by Ownerz (1125 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor turns Marvel back into Billy, game over

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#7 Posted by Jx4gz (1711 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ownerz said:
" Thor turns Marvel back into Billy, game over "
No
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#8 Posted by Ownerz (1125 posts) - - Show Bio

One is a captain superman copycat in a cape with no great skill with magics, the other is A REAL GOD OF THUNDER
 
with real auTHORity over lighthning, Billy is transformed back into the boy. 
 
 
One of the few crossovers with accuracy, Billy has no chance
 

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#9 Posted by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ownerz:
How would Thor be able to do that? Its not like just any old lightning bolt could convert him back, if that was the case, any electrical being would own CM. It has to be summoned through magics separate, unknown, and unavailable to Thor. Doesn't even make sense
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#10 Posted by Ownerz (1125 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bobby X said:
" @Ownerz: How would Thor be able to do that? Its not like just any old lightning bolt could convert him back, if that was the case, any electrical being would own CM. It has to be summoned through magics separate, unknown, and unavailable to Thor. Doesn't even make sense "
Thor doesn't just produce any old electrical attacks, he has magic abilities and he is the GOD OF THUNDER
 
If he wants a Bolt that turns Marvel back into Billy then Cap Marvel gets transformed back into Billy
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#11 Edited by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

No he can't. Captain Marvel does not get his abilties from the GOD OF THUNDER . That magic comes from a specific source unavailable to Thor, it comes from other gods. Are you trying to tell me that Thor can wield the power of other gods now too? Is he more than the god of thunder now? Logic please
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#12 Posted by Ownerz (1125 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bobby X said:
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 Are you trying to tell me that Thor can wield the power of other gods? "
Thor IS A GOD, if he wants a bolt that cracks a planet he gets it, if he wants a bolt that can hurt even Galactus he gets it, if he wants a bolt that can turn Cap Marvel back into Billy he also gets it done.
 
The crossover was accurate which is a very rare thing to say
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#13 Posted by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ownerz:
I'm not even arguing that Cap Marvel would win. You are ignoring logic here. What I'm telling you is that Thor is the God of Thunder, he can do many things. He can not however just usurp the power of other gods, unfamiliar and more importantly separate from himself. CM's power comes from other gods, NON-Asgardian gods, separate from Thor, No Thunder God involved. How could Thor just command some other gods' magic? Thor can not summion magic from non-Asgardian gods, that doesn't even make sense.  BTW, if that crossover is so accurate, why couldn't Thor just do what you are claiming he could and change CM back to Billy with his own lightning bolt.?

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#14 Posted by EdwardWindsor (14582 posts) - - Show Bio

shazz- hammer to face uses thor force to turn back into kid game over

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#15 Posted by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio
@lazystudent:
How could the "Thor Force" change him back? Did you mean the Odin Force? You can't force the transformation that way anyways.
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#16 Posted by whacknasty (5864 posts) - - Show Bio

Well maybe we should try to compare the gods that Marvel gets his power from to Thor.  I'm more inclined to lean towards the combined might of six gods over just one...  
 
I guess it has to be asked where the fight happens as well... If in the Marvel universe, then Thor's power may be stronger than the greek (?) gods all put together, whereas if in the DC universe, maybe Thor would be more equal to them? I'm not sure how the gods rank in DC (Earth gods<the new gods like Darkseid<cosmics like Spectre?)
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#17 Posted by Stormultt (5479 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor makes him studder the words SHAZAm n kills him XDD
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#18 Posted by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio
@whacknasty:  
DC's gods generally seem to be more powerful. At least the greek gods and demigods are that is. DC's Ares, Hercules, Atlas > then Marvel's. Only example I could think of right now.
 
@Stormultt:

At least that could make sense if Thor could do it lol
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#19 Posted by whacknasty (5864 posts) - - Show Bio


Well, if this is just Thor (and not King Thor or a warrior madness Thor or anything like that...), I'm going with Marvel for the upset.  Like Bobby X was saying, I dont think Thor would/should have the ability to tap into another god's power and interrupt it.  
 
Makes me think of WWIII when Marvel and others asked the Egyptian gods to revert Black Adam.  Marvel couldnt just sidestep them and make the change happen without them, I think Thor would/should not be able to do the same thing...  And i think there is a reason that Marvel can stand toe to toe with Supes, if even just for a bit. 

 

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#20 Posted by vance_astro (90093 posts) - - Show Bio

The Cap

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#21 Posted by SwaggaB0y (5446 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ownerz said:
"One is a captain superman copycat in a cape with no great skill with magics, the other is A REAL GOD OF THUNDER
 
with real auTHORity over lighthning, Billy is transformed back into the boy. 
 
 
One of the few crossovers with accuracy, Billy has no chance
 
"


ohhh thor looks a real god there lol.
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#22 Edited by Morpheus_ (34224 posts) - - Show Bio
@Bobby X said:
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I'm not even arguing that Cap Marvel would win. You are ignoring logic here. What I'm telling you is that Thor is the God of Thunder, he can do many things. He can not however just usurp the power of other gods, unfamiliar and more importantly separate from himself. CM's power comes from other gods, NON-Asgardian gods, separate from Thor, No Thunder God involved. How could Thor just command some other gods' magic? Thor can not summion magic from non-Asgardian gods, that doesn't even make sense.  BTW, if that crossover is so accurate, why couldn't Thor just do what you are claiming he could and change CM back to Billy with his own lightning bolt.?

"
The crossover was indeed extremely accurate. Storm defeated Wonder Woman, and Wolverine, Lobo, in it.
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#23 Posted by Bobby X (1149 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah those were two of my fav battles lol.

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#24 Posted by Aronmorales (9735 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, this is a toughy...
 
I say either way.

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#25 Posted by GhostPool (770 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor
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#26 Posted by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

i say thor wins it without taking marvels power away itd be a good fight almost even but thor is more of a warrior than marvel and i dont think thor would go after him in a powerless state because he has too much pride to win like that
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#27 Posted by Jx4gz (1711 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor gets mutilated here 
I doubt the Asgardians will be able to recognize Thor's dead body after Billy gets done with him 

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#28 Posted by thatguy (1226 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel can beat Thor......CM is too tough, anyone who Spectre gives props for being tough is by all means tough.....

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#29 Posted by yodagod (2274 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor wins this.  A real god is significantly greater than someone who gets his powers from gods.  No contest.  Thor shouldn't be able to just turn him back, I agree, but he won't have to.
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#30 Posted by Ownerz (1125 posts) - - Show Bio
Even KingdomCome Marvel gets owned
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#31 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
@yodagod said:
" Thor wins this.  A real god is significantly greater than someone who gets his powers from gods.  No contest.  Thor shouldn't be able to just turn him back, I agree, but he won't have to. "
That makes no sense. You sound like you don't know anything about the characters, and I know this isn't true. If they were in the same universe it would make some sense, but it would still be a logical failure since, as count Vertigo puts it, mortals have killed Gods before.
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#32 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel has strength greater than Thor and speed that would make Thor seem as though he was not moving at all. Thor would need to don his belt that doubles his strength and cal upon all his power to just slow Captain Marvel down.

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#33 Posted by MrDirector786 (44087 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel is pretty much at Superman's level, only he doesn't really have any weaknesses. Captain Marvel wins.

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#34 Posted by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Marvel pretty easily. The only reason why Thor has a chance when he's fighting a being like Superman is because of his magic and Thor can't use it here.

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#35 Posted by King Saturn (222850 posts) - - Show Bio
Captain Marvel will take the win here
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#36 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fresh Prince said:
" Captain Marvel pretty easily. The only reason why Thor has a chance when he's fighting a being like Superman is because of his magic and Thor can't use it here. "
Why not? Captain Marvel has been hurt by strong magic. Especially if it's stronger than the magic that made him.
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#37 Posted by capall (8206 posts) - - Show Bio

i don't think billy wins this easily as everyone thinks, thor is still a powerhouse, it should be a good hard battle for billy
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#38 Posted by WeaponX510 (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

The God of Thunder wins vs the guy who needs lightning to be strong

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#39 Edited by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Hercules said:

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Captain Marvel pretty easily. The only reason why Thor has a chance when he's fighting a being like Superman is because of his magic and Thor can't use it here. "
Why not? Captain Marvel has been hurt by strong magic. Especially if it's stronger than the magic that made him. "
Who's magic hurt him? Thor's magic isn't more powerful than the magic of all of the gods that created him.
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#40 Posted by Moomin123 (2252 posts) - - Show Bio

Billy Batson. Thor is 1 god, where as Capt. Marvel is 5 gods in 1 body.
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#41 Posted by Sleuth (2649 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap. Significant strength and speed advantage.

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#42 Posted by capall (8206 posts) - - Show Bio
@Moomin123 said:
"Billy Batson. Thor is 1 god, where as Capt. Marvel is 5 gods in 1 body. "

has the power of 6 gods, not 5 gods in 1 body
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#43 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fresh Prince said:
" @King Hercules said:

" @Fresh Prince said:

" Captain Marvel pretty easily. The only reason why Thor has a chance when he's fighting a being like Superman is because of his magic and Thor can't use it here. "
Why not? Captain Marvel has been hurt by strong magic. Especially if it's stronger than the magic that made him. "
Who's magic hurt him? Thor's magic isn't more powerful than the magic of all of the gods that created him. 

Those goods that empower him have no real magic. Only Zeus from which he gets the lighting. And Thor is the god of storm. It's magic that allows him to have the power of those gods. The magic of Shazam.
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#44 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Hercules said:
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Those goods that empower him have no real magic. Only Zeus from which he gets the lighting. And Thor is the god of storm. It's magic that allows him to have the power of those gods. The magic of Shazam. "
If you are implying that he can use the lightning to depower Cap, no. Darkseid couldn't do it when he had usurped the power of all the gods on Earth.
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#45 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio
@AtPhantom:@AtPhantom said:
" @King Hercules said:
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Those goods that empower him have no real magic. Only Zeus from which he gets the lighting. And Thor is the god of storm. It's magic that allows him to have the power of those gods. The magic of Shazam. "
If you are implying that he can use the lightning to depower Cap, no. Darkseid couldn't do it when he had usurped the power of all the gods on Earth. "
No, because the lighting that gives him his power isn't natural and Thor controls the natural storm. My point was that Thor is also a storm-god and a being of magic. He can hurt Captain Marvel with this. He can't win because of the obvious, but I wanted to point out that Captain can be hurt by magic.
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#46 Posted by ThanosIsMad (2451 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering how Superman barely beat Thor in their fight, I think CM would barely beat Thor in this contest.  In a second fight, Thor would probably come out as the victor against Superman as was alluded to in the crossover, but Marvel, with his access to magic, would be on a better footing in a fight with Thor than Superman was, and would come out as the winner.

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#47 Posted by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Hercules: Thor can't match Captain Marvel physically. He doesn't have the strength, durability and most of all, speed to match him. Captain Marvel also won't go down because of his immunity to magic.
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#48 Posted by King Hercules (1253 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fresh Prince said:
" @King Hercules: Thor can't match Captain Marvel physically. He doesn't have the strength, durability and most of all, speed to match him. Captain Marvel also won't go down because of his immunity to magic. "
He is not immune to magic. If he was, the Spectre wouldn't have defeated him. As far as the other reasons you pointed out, I stated them as my reason why Thor can't win.
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#49 Posted by Freakazoid! (84 posts) - - Show Bio

   @King Hercules said:

" Those goods that empower him have no real magic. Only Zeus from which he gets the lighting. And Thor is the god of storm. It's magic that allows him to have the power of those gods. The magic of Shazam. "



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#50 Posted by Morpheus_ (34224 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Hercules said:
" @Fresh Prince said:
" @King Hercules: Thor can't match Captain Marvel physically. He doesn't have the strength, durability and most of all, speed to match him. Captain Marvel also won't go down because of his immunity to magic. "
He is not immune to magic. If he was, the Spectre wouldn't have defeated him. As far as the other reasons you pointed out, I stated them as my reason why Thor can't win. "
Are you actually bringing in the most powerful cosmic entity (and in an unbound state) in the DCU as proof of Marvel's defeat? 
 
That's....Amazing.