The issue there was you were suggesting her breathing in space wasn’t due to overall power. You even suggested she gained additional lungs or something of the sort? For all we know was what you were implying?
Being able to breathe in space has nothing to due with physical strength/durability or stats. I pointed out that her ORIGINAL powers created an invisible energy field that allowed her to breathe in space. Since Cru repaired her powers, maybe then she could activate that old power again. It has nothing to do with an "amp".
That first instance I posted straight up suggest she used energy reserves something she didn’t have to fall back on Post-Cru but even if you want to ignore that Despite energy being what amps her physicals.
Energy reserves which comes from her Binary powers. She uses the Binary ability to amplify herself.
I honestly personally think she’s Iron Man tier in her base form. I’m not trying to suggest she a tier over him in her base form despite ironic portrayals of the recent 10 years between the characters.
If we're going off of consistent showings, she's barely in his tier. She has an awful track record against high tiers, there are more instances of her doing poorly against Iron Man armors than otherwise, and even Rogue's consistent power levels show us what tier Carol is in.
There’s waaaaaay to many instances to just outright ignore between the two. With multiple writers.
Way too much context too.
1. 2019 Kelly Thompson (Tore the suit apart) (In fairness this was in Carol’s home book)
Doesn't really matter. Even here she does poorly against Tony. She couldn't do anything to him until she was amped by his repulsors. Even while partially armored and cheap-shotted, she couldn't damage the suit faster than it was equipped. Hell, it was confirmed that she had just beaten Thor an hour earlier through constant energy absorption for hours (before taking in one big lightning bolt at the end), so she may have actually been STILL amped before fighting Tony.
2. 2019 Dan Slott (She restrained a hacked Iron Man in his own series with Iron Man telling her not to kill him again and her reply she’ll hold back this time) (This was in an Iron Man book as well)
Yet he has his older armors beat her pages later. Really makes you think. I wonder if Kelly Thompson saw that before writing her version of the Iron Man fight since Carol is scared of the army of suits there too. Civil War II was the biggest event in Marvel history, so writers are just going to keep following suit. Just like people follow suit with Civil War I and pretend like Captain America and Iron Man are physical rivals.
3-4. 2016 Brian Michael Bendis against the Marvel which narratively was suppose to be his strongest armor at the time.
I find it hilarious that you even have images of that fight saved. That'd be like if I kept Firelord vs Spider-Man saved and constantly posted it to prove that Peter Parker was a high tier.
5-6. 2013 Peter David (Carol fought a team of Iron Man, Captain America and Magus. The prior two thinking she was a skrull so neither needing to be holding back. The only person that hurt her was Magus and herself with her energy blast)
Iron Man blasted her (which she absorbed) before she floored him. Seeing a pattern yet?
7-8. 2016 Brian Michael Bendis (First scan she cracks his armor with her punches, the second instance before the Marvel Buster fight has Tony suggest he’s done holding back and Carol says the same thing. We know which direction that goes though)
He was repairing faster than she could damage him (kind of like in Thompson's fight), but yeah they were both holding back so I don't see what this proves other than Bendis' idiocy.
War Machine though?
You mean the character that embarrassed Carol twice? Even with Iron Man as backup, she did awfully.
1-3. Jonathan Hickman (I could be wrong with this one but I don’t remember it ever being stated the War Machine Drones were less durable) (Regardless Carol pinches a hole through one)
Those War Machine drones were variations of the Iron Patriot armor which was stolen and mass produced by AIM. Not only was the Iron Patriot missing Stark components/repulsor/arc reactor technology, but it was then mass produced by these guys:
I've explained why the Iron Patriot is weaker to you before, so I won't go any further. However, Hickman portrayed those drones as complete fodder anyway. Black Panther's energy daggers were one-shotting them, Captain Britain was one-shotting them, Hulk was casually tearing them apart, etc.
4-6. Bendis, Hickman, Ewing (It basically shows War Machine can’t survive a punch from a weakened Thanos) Carol took a cheapshot from Thanos getting knocked out as well in The Ultimates book apparently got his attention and strangled and eye blasted from him
If Carol hadn't been Binary, she would have died too. Not sure why that's a good feat for her in your eyes. Actual high tiers performed much better than her in Infinity. As for the Ultimates book, again she was amped, so I don't see how that shows Carol's superiority by comparison to Rhodey. Hell, even then Thanos didn't even punch her. He just blasted her. When he used his hands, he casually overpowered and choked her with one hand. If anything, it actually doesn't make War Machine look so bad in the grand scheme of things considering how poorly Binary performed against the weakened Thanos.
There was even that instance you use to like bringing up where Punisher was operating the War Machine armor and the writer ignored Carol’s energy absorption and still had Frank decide to run away from Carol. You could even scale War Machine higher than Iron Man off that series if you‘d like too to suggest my Iron Man mentions are irrelevant.
Ignored energy absorption? It literally shows him blasting her, she just stands there with energy glowing around her unphased, and then when she blasts him it finally starts to damage his armor. But anyway, Frank blasted her, recovered first, and then was willing to fight again until she got bored. He didn't want to fight or kill her because she's a hero. This idea that he was scared because he was outclassed is just not true. He wasn't even going all out.
I don’t really lose anything if we pretend like WarBird wasn’t weaker than a modern incarnation of Carol in all honestly. We could pretend like she wasn’t weaker but there’s to many showings to suggest she stops at one especially with access to Binary. She operates at a higher tier at that point.
Yes you do because it makes her current high tier showings massively inconsistent. IIRC, she can't just turn Binary out of nowhere. Doesn't she need to absorb inordinate amounts of energy first?
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