Captain America (Wilson) vs Moon Knight

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Sam Wilson as Captain America vs Moon Knight

Wilson has his standard Cap gear (no Redwing). Moon Knight has standard personal gear for his 2014 volume (no vehicles/drones).

Battle takes place in a depopulated favela of Rio de Janeiro, starting at 30'.

Win by any means.

In character.

Who wins and why?

Captain America
Captain America
Moon Knight
Moon Knight

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I'm going to go with Sam. He's gotten a pretty good upgrade as Captain America.

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I'm thinking Moon Knight.

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@jayskee said:

I'm going to go with Sam. He's gotten a pretty good upgrade as Captain America.

What kind of upgrade? I don't know too much about what he's been doing since becoming Cap, so I partly made this thread out of curiosity. An upgrade in the sense of having the shield, or he's just getting better skill feats these days?

I'm thinking Moon Knight.

Any particular reasons?

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@owie:

Upgrade as in skill. He beat crossbones, curbstomped sin while injured, stalemate batroc until Nomad got involved, and took on baron zemo while injured.

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I would have thought just plain Falcon could probably win, but with the extra armor and the shield, plus his improvement in skill, Sam takes this

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i Havent read much of sam as cap but moonknight would beat falcon so idk how much better sam has gotten since becoming cap.

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Marc is still more skilled, has better physicals, and better gear. As long as he can get past the shield he should take this.

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@jayskee said:

@owie:

Upgrade as in skill. He beat crossbones, curbstomped sin while injured, stalemate batroc until Nomad got involved, and took on baron zemo while injured.

Cool, thanks. You wouldn't happen to have scans of any of that, just for educational purposes for those reading the thread?

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@owie:

https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/34hbvr/respect_sam_wilson_captain_america_marvel_616/

They're all right here

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@jayskee said:

@owie:

https://m.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/34hbvr/respect_sam_wilson_captain_america_marvel_616/

They're all right here

Some impressive stuff. He's got a pretty acrobatic and physical fighting style. Did he somehow get the SSS too? Some of those strength feats, like breaking those chains, are kind of ridiculous for a normal human.

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No he's still just peak of human.

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how full is the moon? :)

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how full is the moon? :)

Well, we can say it's a full moon. But he doesn't seem to necessarily have his moon-strength these days. Although clearly his connection to Khonshu is pretty direct in recent times.

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#18  Edited By TheDandyMan

Close battle. Captain America has the obvious travel speed advantage but he doesn't use this a whole lot against other combatants and I think the two are pretty close when it comes to combat speed so they're gonna be tagging each other a similar number of times. Both are also fairly similar in striking power when unarmed although I'd give Captain America the edge and his shield means he goes from taking the small lead in this category to a definite one. Moon Knight does outdo him in pain-tolerance though Wilson honestly isn't that bad in this category, Spector just has more instances where he's tanked damage like knife stabs. Wilson, however, does have his shield and wings to protect him from some damage so he isn't outclassed in durability. Overall I wanna give Captain America a small majority although I remain undecided.

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Bump. I'm curious.

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Moon knight takes this.

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@zemoftw said:

@ithemanwithoutfeari: i just want this thread to live on

That's cool, but you should at least extrapolate your answer, so we know why you think Moon Knight wins. That'll at least give people something to agree or disagree with. I mean, I'm happy to have my threads bumped, but the real purpose is discussion and detail of argument, right?

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#27  Edited By Zemoftw

@owie: The only real problem marc will have is Sam's sheild and wings. Aside from that marc is still faster, more skilled and more durable. Even if sam decides to take the fight to the air moon knight still has grear control while gliding with his cape. I also think mk holds a strength advantage over sam too. I see mk taking this 7/10. That better for you man?

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@zemoftw said:

@owie: The only real problem marc will have is Sam's sheild and wings. Aside from that marc is still faster, more skilled and more durable. Even if sam decides to take the fight to the air moon knight still has grear control while gliding with his cape. I also think mk holds a strength advantage over sam too. I see mk taking this 7/10. That better for you man?

Much, thank you.

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